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Bayou Titan 12-08-2005, 02:26 PM The Titans will probably be in the 4-7 spot come draft day. How would you guys feel about a trade, Phillip Rivers for the Titans first round spot? He flourished under Chow's guidance at N.C. State. McNair can't play forever and I just don't think Volek is the answer. Just a thought, discuss amongst yourselves.
maximus 12-08-2005, 02:31 PM The Titans will probably be in the 4-7 spot come draft day. How would you guys feel about a trade, Phillip Rivers for the Titans first round spot? He flourished under Chow's guidance at N.C. State. McNair can't play forever and I just don't think Volek is the answer. Just a thought, discuss amongst yourselves.
No, I want no part in Rivers. He had Chow for one year at NC State.
Bayou Titan 12-08-2005, 02:48 PM I assume you are unimpressed with him? What are his poor qualities in your opinion?
CriticalTheory 12-08-2005, 03:58 PM A.J MUTHAEFFIN HAWK!!
Big TT 12-08-2005, 04:07 PM If "the" QB of the future or Reggie Bush is available or could be traded for, kidnapped or whatever other wise D'brickshaw would be the choice. We need to build a O line to protect whomever.
coltman18 12-08-2005, 04:51 PM I think O-Line is #1, with RB (Reggie Bush) a close second.
If I were GM for the day, I would take a look at the Colts and how they've been able to draft O-linemen in the 3rd round or later and do that, while grabbing Reggie in the 1st round.
Gunny 12-08-2005, 06:14 PM A.J MUTHAEFFIN HAWK!!
i'm sorry, I can't read that, can you make it a little bigger?
Titanpride 12-08-2005, 11:14 PM I agree with Hawk... Huff, Williams ( VTech ) or D'Brickashaw Ferguson. Huff or Willams would be after trading down a few spots, establishing another pick and selecting around 7,8,9,10.
CriticalTheory 12-08-2005, 11:18 PM I agree with Hawk... Huff, Williams ( VTech ) or D'Brickashaw Ferguson. Huff or Willams would be after trading down a few spots, establishing another pick and selecting around 7,8,9,10.Yes you are a good man
maximus 12-09-2005, 12:12 AM I think O-Line is #1, with RB (Reggie Bush) a close second.
If I were GM for the day, I would take a look at the Colts and how they've been able to draft O-linemen in the 3rd round or later and do that, while grabbing Reggie in the 1st round.
I would take a look at the Titans and realize that Roos (05) and Hopkins(93) were the only Titan OL taken before round 3.
nendzone 12-09-2005, 10:38 AM No, I want no part in Rivers. He had Chow for one year at NC State.
You wouldn't be going after him only because of Chow. You'd be going after him because he's still a heckuva talent.
He didn't get drafted top five for nothing, even if he only had one year under Chow in college.
I would definitely consider it, but only if it was the right value proposition for the Titans (compared to what's likely to be on the board at their pick). I think it's only on the table if McNair either hangs them up or they reach an impasse on his contract renegotiation -- possible because McNair isn't likely to want to commit to some number of years where the Titans know they won't be stuck eating all the dead money (say) in 2007 or whatever.
Otherwise, if McNair is back in '06, I think the Titans are more likely to just look for a day one pick at QB (maybe first round, maybe not).
SuperFreak90 12-09-2005, 11:22 AM Draft AJ Hawk, trade Billy Volek for a draft pick. Sign a vet DB,WR and draft the best available players in the draft.
CriticalTheory 12-09-2005, 11:32 AM Draft AJ Hawk, trade Billy Volek for a draft pick. Sign a vet DB,WR and draft the best available players in the draft.No Calfolks!!!
Please no "Projects"
Titans2004 12-09-2005, 02:50 PM As GM, I'd try to upgrade OLINE and LB via FA. Thus addressing 2 of our major needs before the draft. That would allow me on draft day to take BPA and not draft for need. Although in the back of my mind I'm hoping to either trade down to get more picks and then nab a safety in the mid-late 1st or grab a safety in the early 2nd. If I can't trade down and an OLINE or LB is the BPA then we've turned what used to be a weakness into a major strength.
Soxcat 12-09-2005, 03:03 PM Ferguson is not an option only because that early I would prefer an OT in the mold of Pace or Ogden. Ferguson is under 300 pounds and more in the style of Hopkins.
If we assume our bag heads days are over and we don't have another early round pick again I have no problem getting Rivers no matter what McNair does. McNair is finished as far as being an MVP QB IMO and we need to take the opportunity if it comes. Rivers might translate to a better NFL QB than Leinhert and Chow can help make the call better than anyone. If Chow likes Rivers I would seriously consider the deal.
TitanJeff 12-09-2005, 03:14 PM Above all else, this team needs a playmaker on offense. Whether it be via the draft or free agency, it has to happen.
A playmaker on O would be nice, but where?
I think our RB's are both above average. I doubt we'll draft high enough to get Bush.
A #1 WR would be nice (and how much would he be used with Chow?), but this draft looks weak for WR's. I'd also kinda like to see the young WR's for awhile to see if any have the potential to be a legit #1.
TE....can we find one that can take a screen all the way to the house? :lol:
Other than Reggie Wayne, I don't know of any big time FA's that may help us out a lot.
And since it's a copy cat league....the Pats didn't have any big time playmakers on O, but they did have a very strong D....which we are pretty far from having :-/
Hey, maybe our playmaker on O can be Pacman :brow: :lol:
Soxcat 12-09-2005, 03:33 PM For a second lets imagine a scenario where Chow tells Reese and Fisher that Rivers is a better QB and future prospect than Lienhert based on coaching both players in college. IMO we would be ridiculously stupid to not try and make a straight up trade with SD for our pick. Not only is Rivers better than the "best" QB coming out of this years draft he already has a couple of years at the NFL level and is more ready to contribute.
The situation with McNair is simply this IMO. The Titans need to dictate the terms of his contract and offer a take it or leave it offer. It simply is not in the best interest of the organization to have a guy with diminishing skills leaving us in suspense on his future. You hear McNair in interviews talk and it is like he is making the decision and no one else has a dog in the fight. Sorry Mac, this is Bud's football team, Fisher is the coach and Reese is the GM and you are only an employee. If McNair cannot make a commitment I say let him go and move on.
TitanJeff 12-09-2005, 03:35 PM A playmaker on O would be nice, but where?
Good question. But when you have to put a defensive back on the offense to "add spark", you have issues.
Soxcat 12-09-2005, 03:40 PM ...
And since it's a copy cat league....the Pats didn't have any big time playmakers on O, but they did have a very strong D....which we are pretty far from having :-/
Hey, maybe our playmaker on O can be Pacman :brow: :lol:
The Pats also had a top QB and a solid OL and a great OC. Without time to throw the ball we really don't know if we have potential playmakers at WR or if our QB is any good. Without any room to run we really don't know if Brown and Henry are solid RBs. We have not been able to establish the run to set up the pass or establish the pass to set up the run. Those 5 yard routes on 3rd and 10 don't help either.
maximus 12-09-2005, 04:54 PM You wouldn't be going after him only because of Chow. You'd be going after him because he's still a heckuva talent.
He didn't get drafted top five for nothing, even if he only had one year under Chow in college.
I would definitely consider it, but only if it was the right value proposition for the Titans (compared to what's likely to be on the board at their pick). I think it's only on the table if McNair either hangs them up or they reach an impasse on his contract renegotiation -- possible because McNair isn't likely to want to commit to some number of years where the Titans know they won't be stuck eating all the dead money (say) in 2007 or whatever.
Otherwise, if McNair is back in '06, I think the Titans are more likely to just look for a day one pick at QB (maybe first round, maybe not).
I dont doubt Rivers has talent, but I am biased toward QBs that are dual threat. My top QBs from this draft are Jay Cutler and Vince Young.
Good question. But when you have to put a defensive back on the offense to "add spark", you have issues.
Yeah, but you can look at a lot of good teams and see that they don't have any big time playmakers.
More firepower would certainly help, but I guess it depends on how you want to build a roster. We were a better team (and a team that seems to suit Fisher better) with a strong D and at least average O.
We had more balance in 03, and I'd like a team like that again. But I think our D needs more help to move on up than the O. I'm still hoping Chow and the O get more together next year. Maybe that's a foolish hope, but I have less hope for this D getting much better with the S's and LB's we have.
If we have no shot at Bush, what playmakers can we choose from? DeAngelo Williams is one, but is he that much better than what we have to warrant taking a high pick and using it on him?
The Pats also had a top QB and a solid OL and a great OC. Without time to throw the ball we really don't know if we have potential playmakers at WR or if our QB is any good. Without any room to run we really don't know if Brown and Henry are solid RBs. We have not been able to establish the run to set up the pass or establish the pass to set up the run. Those 5 yard routes on 3rd and 10 don't help either.
The top QB is the tricky part. I have the hope that Steve will settle into this O and elevate his play. I not convinced he's done yet. If he can do that, he and Brady are on the same level imo. I can understand if we pick Leinart though, not so sure about the other QB's out there for our 1st pick.
I don't think their o-line was anything but average. But if we're talking about our 1st pick, it'd only be on a LT and I think their going to give that chance to Roos. I think our pass protection has been decent, but I agree the run blocking has been below average. I think both the RB's have shown enough to know they are good.
The play calling, QB decision, or both are questionable at times for sure. But again, I'm hoping that can improve....and I think that's more of a possability than our D getting better.
TitanJeff 12-09-2005, 06:04 PM Yeah, but you can look at a lot of good teams and see that they don't have any big time playmakers.
Those would be the teams with stiffling defenses and/or outstanding ground games. I'd take that as a better option but it looks like the Titans are more than one or two players from making either of those two things a reality.
If we have no shot at Bush, what playmakers can we choose from? DeAngelo Williams is one, but is he that much better than what we have to warrant taking a high pick and using it on him?
I don't know if it necessarily has to be the first pick. Maybe it is something which can be addressed in free agency. I just see a team who doesn't have much of a shot when they go down by 14 points or more. They don't appear to have anyone on the roster who can stretch a defense or even make a defense scheme to stop him.
The Titans are a team with many holes.
Those would be the teams with stiffling defenses and/or outstanding ground games. I'd take that as a better option but it looks like the Titans are more than one or two players from making either of those two things a reality.
I agree they are more than 1 player away from a top D. Just like on O, we'll have to have some hope that the young guys show up improved players next season. I would include our young CB's and DE's on that list. I don't hold as much hope for both our S's and Sirmon and Kassell. If we get a few of these young guys to show improvement as they mature, and we get a guy (or maybe 2, like Hawk in the 1st and a good S in the 2nd) that can instantly improve the D, well maybe we get a lot closer to the good ole Titans D by next season.
I don't know if it necessarily has to be the first pick. Maybe it is something which can be addressed in free agency. I just see a team who doesn't have much of a shot when they go down by 14 points or more. They don't appear to have anyone on the roster who can stretch a defense or even make a defense scheme to stop him.
The Titans are a team with many holes.
Too true, many holes. It's not gonna be easy this offseason to decide who stays, who goes, and who do we go after. I'm sure they'll try to get help on both sides of the ball.
johnnybow 12-13-2005, 10:59 AM You cannot lose if the other team cannnot score. I'd go for the best available on def, then work some more on the OL and DL.
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 12:11 AM first post here...
but i read this stuff to friggin much and feel its about time i started some input.
do all this on draft day and scare the bejeesus out of the rest of the nfl
trade back the first for a mid first and second-- takes care of the henry screw up there... but keep powder anyhow... well need him next year
with the new first pick up rivers in a trade. no one else would give a low midder in this draft like we would for him.
with the second take cutler (either the next farve or the next well... nobody)if hes still around. got our next two QB's
trade volek for a third
with the other 2nd start picking up those later ILB studs... somone who likes to hit more than talk... abdul hodge sounds like a stud with little weakness.
If not him how bout gregg blue
maybe bothe if we could pull it off.
4th rd... dwayne slay- safety... makes grown men cry when he hits them... seen it.
5th 6th 7th...O linemen Olinemen Oline men.
or best available athlete
larcharles binkley will want the serious cash for c o-line but we shoould pay up.
KVB's pro bowl snub should lower his asking price a bit but i think he's a bit loyal
pick up reggie wayne... sompne of that group would eventually emerge as a pretty good number 1
fire schwartz--- hell trade him if its a possibility
drop hoppy...
drop lamont...
bet we could get a fourth or fifth for lamont and a six for the hopster
another olb
and onother lineman
heck if we could trade 3 o-linemen for texas first rounder (like someone said in another post)that'd be a godsend but it'd never happen with the guys we got back there.
but i bet theyd take 2 for a 4th and fifth...
then were really talking
another CB with that 4th...
and with the fifth...who else but another olineman
would also love to see archuletta here
thats six new o linemen... someone will be pretty good with the way we "normally" work with these guys.
then next year... running back... wr... corner back.... pacman wants out... we all know it... we know we like to watch him play but the child is a dumb*****
thats my off seas ideas ... doubt but maybe one of them would come true but i garuntee you in two years we would be in the playoffs... hire me bud
"there are things uknown and there are things known... in between are the doors" jim morrison
DeutschTitan 12-23-2005, 03:23 AM I can tell you right now, if Floyd listened to you - we'd be screwed. Trade for Phillips and draft Cutler? You kidding me?! That's the most assenine thing I've ever read on here. This isn't your local weekend Fantasy League pal. Sure it's nice to dream a little, but lets post logically here. You want to spend both of our day 1 picks on QB's?!?! Look we got a QB who can get the job done the next two or three years, a guy whose always gotten it done: Steve McNair. Yeah he hasn't looked sharp this year or last, but he atleast deserves another year to prove what he's got and he'll get it too.
From the most part, yeah the Henry deal looked like a total screw up. But he did however show some flashes of what he brings to the table recently and if the OLine could runblock worth a damn, we probably could see more of it. Henry deserves more of a look, I'm not ready to scrap a third that easily. You want LeCharles Bentley? Cool, go get him on your Fantasy League. I watched that guy play a few times and when I watched the Falcons game two Monday nights ago, that was enough. The guy looked awful and definitely not worth the preety penny he's gonna demand.
I agree with bits and pieces of your post. Drop LT, Hoppy...sure, but theres more that need to go. How about Kassell, Sirmon, Olson, Piller, Hartwig, Tank? I think they've underperformed to the point of getting the axe, especially Hoppy, Olson and Sirmon; guys we could save good money off of by cutting them. What's this I read about Pacman wanting out? WTF? This kid just began his pro career, why the hell would he want out? Whose gonna take him? The mother ****ing Ratturds? Come on, man, he's one of the bright spots on this team talent wise. Yeah he causes a ruckus, but that will go away in due time. Look, if Reynaldo Hill was doing the **** he does off field we wouldn't hear about it. Why? He's a seventh round pick that's why, not a 6th overall pick. All eyes are on Pac, until he comes to terms with it - he'll be this way. He doesn't get this aint College anymore, it's the real world.
"there are things uknown and there are things known... in between are the doors" jim morrison
If you were GM the media would use this quote to describe you. Alot remains unknown to you, while you know very little. "The Door isn't in between ****, it's right in front of you - see your way out" is what Bud and every true Tennessee Titan fan would say after your short tenure at GM.
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 03:39 AM hey!! about time the drunks came out!
if you had read it properly... there would still be a high second left... basically the first would be spent on rivers....still that second there from the trade i mentioned earlier.
mcnair is spent dude... matter of opinion... maybe... but the guy isnt smart enough to learn a new offense that fast... proved it the first 5 years it took him here and he has only thrown to tight ends this year when ive personally seen .... IN MY FRO NT ROW SEATS.... every reciever we have being open... happened at least 4 times last game and it was his best game of the past two years.
i would still keep henry... didnt say lose him... just said a third was too much for what he was worth at the time
also mentioned about 6 new oine coming in.... thats before we let the obvious ones go... the tanks... the olsen and sirmons... just a pre to draft day mock buddy...
not the whole friggin off season.
now calm down...take your valium and realx douche''''er...i mean deutch
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 03:51 AM besides D it was a lightheartedpost... read it sober
oh and lacharles bently doesnt look good in atlanta b/c vick is the Qb there... get a normal aka...GOOD... quarterback without happy feet and he's as good as they come
TitansFan4Life 12-23-2005, 04:06 AM I would agree with some and say A J Hawk as the first rnd pick. Cutler has definite NFL potential and could be around for the 2nd rnd pick. If Cutler isn't available in the second and the titans are set on takin a qb Darrell Hackney could be a sleeper pick in the 4th or 5th rnds. As for us gettin leinart or bush I think thats pretty much out of the question unless we trade up somehow to get one of them. Bush will most certainly be gone by pick 3 and the Jets, Packers and Saints may all be interested in Leinart. Unfortunately, Vince Young is gonna stay for his senior season so that leaves Cutler and Omar Jacobs as the best available qbs. As for O-line, I'll agree that we need lots of work but I am on the side of late rnd guys developing. I think if we can get back to running the ball well and controlling the clock that McNair will again return to Pro-Bowl form. McNair will hopefully be around for at least two more years allowing time for Cutler or Hackney to develop if they are taken by the Titans. I'm not completely sold on Volek and I think the Jets would definitely be interested in trading for him on draft day if they miss out on Leinart. They expressed interest earlier in the season and he ran Heimerdingers offense last year when he looked good throwing td after td down the stretch for Tennessee. I think the safeties will progress if we give them time. Thompson has some game IMO but Tank will most likely get cut. Fisher being a former DB, i'm sure he will make good decisions on the defensive backfield and bring the team back to contention next year. As for the Lbs I think Hawk would be a definite upgrade and would play well alongside KB.
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 04:15 AM anybody know how old kieth is next year?
TitansFan4Life 12-23-2005, 04:17 AM He turns 29 on april 4th
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 04:20 AM so after next season he'll be 30? crap... even he's starting to get old... 3 more top notch years at least though... i just want some younguns out there
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 04:21 AM well 2 at least
TitansFan4Life 12-23-2005, 04:55 AM I think he could possibly play at this level for another 4 or 5 years myself.
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 05:11 AM friend i hope you are right... possibly.
i just got this bad feeling about pacman dissappearing on us after his contract is up in a few years and i would hate for those two to come at the same time
Gunny 12-23-2005, 07:21 AM Pacman has got another 5 years, bit early to be calling for him to split.
who knows what will happen.
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 01:40 PM i hadnt realized pac had signed that long... good job front office.
maybe by then this town and him can become friends
DeutschTitan 12-23-2005, 01:56 PM hey!! about time the drunks came out!
if you had read it properly... there would still be a high second left... basically the first would be spent on rivers....still that second there from the trade i mentioned earlier.
mcnair is spent dude... matter of opinion... maybe... but the guy isnt smart enough to learn a new offense that fast... proved it the first 5 years it took him here and he has only thrown to tight ends this year when ive personally seen .... IN MY FRO NT ROW SEATS.... every reciever we have being open... happened at least 4 times last game and it was his best game of the past two years.
i would still keep henry... didnt say lose him... just said a third was too much for what he was worth at the time
also mentioned about 6 new oine coming in.... thats before we let the obvious ones go... the tanks... the olsen and sirmons... just a pre to draft day mock buddy...
not the whole friggin off season.
now calm down...take your valium and realx douche''''er...i mean deutch
Sorry, I don't flame, but when I saw that "hail marry" attempt at fixing the QB situation I about lost it. Especially with that ****y attitude like yours was the one true way. Maybe you didn't mean for it to come off that way, I just took it like that. QB is definitely not a position you draft shotgun style. The logical and realistic thing that will happen is we'll probably trade Billy, restructure and re-sign McNair. Now whether Mac plays or not - that depends. There are some mid-round QB prospects who are preety interesting and worth a look see. Don't know if we'll have a chance at Leinart, Young, Cutler and Jacobs could possibly return as well as Young. You didn't mention 6 new Olinemen coming in, you mentioned LeCharles Bentley and suggested we draft OLine from rounds 5th-7th; that's only four. Speaking of LeCharles, he plays for NEW ORLEANS. If you watched the New Orleans vs. Atlanta Monday night game two Monday nights ago, you would have seen him put little to no effort at blocking the Falcon's front line. I can recall atleast five times where a DLinemen from Atlanta had a free shot at Brooks because he didn't put a damn effort into blocking - one of those free shots was a safety. It's not the only game, there's been others. Bottom Line: He ain't worth the preety penny he'll ask for. As many draft picks you want, our money that could go to solid FA's will be gone to first day draft picks. So technically, yeah, that looked like the whole off-season gone to the draft, which is all we need right now: getting even younger.
Oh and you wanna talk to me about Valium, I'm not the one who spells like he's snortin Valium lines pal. What's "douche''''er"? The names Deutsch which means German, not douche. Ignorance becomes you....:sad2:
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 02:15 PM i was doing my "Fantasy" day ... not what i really think will happen.
find a thread for that and i'll give you what i really believe.
but i did mention six new linemen... read the post carefully and youll count em.
yeah i was wrong about bently... been playing too much madden here and i guess he's been on the falcons for a while in my seasons and it just stuck in my head... but i still think he would be a great addition
man... sorry about the douche... said that out of annoyance...
by the way i spent last summer in sweden with my girlfriend and germany for two weeks i know what "Deutsch" means.
DeutschTitan 12-23-2005, 05:02 PM i was doing my "Fantasy" day ... not what i really think will happen.
find a thread for that and i'll give you what i really believe.
but i did mention six new linemen... read the post carefully and youll count em.
yeah i was wrong about bently... been playing too much madden here and i guess he's been on the falcons for a while in my seasons and it just stuck in my head... but i still think he would be a great addition
man... sorry about the douche... said that out of annoyance...
by the way i spent last summer in sweden with my girlfriend and germany for two weeks i know what "Deutsch" means.
Ah, I see you did mention six. Seems where you were talking about who to let go, I understood that as you meant to let go of one of our OLinemen. Yeah, Madden can do that to ya. Ahh touche, seems I was wrong about you. I was in Sweden this summer as well - women are amazing there, as I'm sure you noticed. :brow:
Guess it was all one misunderstanding, I appologize. English isn't my first.
DeutschTitan 12-23-2005, 05:18 PM I would agree with some and say A J Hawk as the first rnd pick. Cutler has definite NFL potential and could be around for the 2nd rnd pick. If Cutler isn't available in the second and the titans are set on takin a qb Darrell Hackney could be a sleeper pick in the 4th or 5th rnds. As for us gettin leinart or bush I think thats pretty much out of the question unless we trade up somehow to get one of them. Bush will most certainly be gone by pick 3 and the Jets, Packers and Saints may all be interested in Leinart. Unfortunately, Vince Young is gonna stay for his senior season so that leaves Cutler and Omar Jacobs as the best available qbs. As for O-line, I'll agree that we need lots of work but I am on the side of late rnd guys developing. I think if we can get back to running the ball well and controlling the clock that McNair will again return to Pro-Bowl form. McNair will hopefully be around for at least two more years allowing time for Cutler or Hackney to develop if they are taken by the Titans. I'm not completely sold on Volek and I think the Jets would definitely be interested in trading for him on draft day if they miss out on Leinart. They expressed interest earlier in the season and he ran Heimerdingers offense last year when he looked good throwing td after td down the stretch for Tennessee. I think the safeties will progress if we give them time. Thompson has some game IMO but Tank will most likely get cut. Fisher being a former DB, i'm sure he will make good decisions on the defensive backfield and bring the team back to contention next year. As for the Lbs I think Hawk would be a definite upgrade and would play well alongside KB.
Hawk is a good choice, although Brooks would be nice, too. Certainly Mario Williams factors in as well, KVB or not. I like the Hackney pick, although his biggest ding is he's alittle short, not very athletic and needs to improve his overall game, but would certainly be worth the 4th or 5th as a developmental project. He's got quite a cannon also. Thompsons got game, no doubt, but he's not showing it this year, which is a shame and could cost him a job. I would have liked to see what Fuller and Thompson could have done this year, if Fuller had remained healthy.
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 05:38 PM Ah, I see you did mention six. Seems where you were talking about who to let go, I understood that as you meant to let go of one of our OLinemen. Yeah, Madden can do that to ya. Ahh touche, seems I was wrong about you. I was in Sweden this summer as well - women are amazing there, as I'm sure you noticed. :brow:
Guess it was all one misunderstanding, I appologize. English isn't my first.
Yeah my girl is a swede... dont really know how i pulled that off... dont worry bout the english, used to that with her too. sorry myself man
DeutschTitan 12-23-2005, 06:38 PM Yeah my girl is a swede... dont really know how i pulled that off... dont worry bout the english, used to that with her too. sorry myself man
Nice and no need to appologize - misunderstandings happen and I made a fool of myself, which probably dinged any little sense of credibility I got from the fellow posters. But, that aside, I figured I give it a shot at being a GM for a day. Here goes.
We all know our needs, it's blatant. So, who do we get at those positions and what moves do we make first? Obviously we need to clean house with those that aren't worth the money and if their willing to stay for a cheaper price, I think you have to retain a few in key positions for depth and experience. Hoppy is certainly the first to go, but could be willing to stay at a cheaper price. Olson is gone. I would axe Sirmon and his 3 million as well. Tank can walk in FA along with Hartwig. I'd retain Kassell for depth, but at a cheaper price, that is if he's willing to do that and if no one picks him up via FA. Now it's time to talk business with McNair. I'd, personally, would retain him and restructure his contract. He's done it numerous times and I can assure myself that talks won't be too heated or tough. So, I restructure with him a fair and friendly deal that makes both sides happy. Then, I shop Volek for a third. Most likely to Heimi and the Jets. They could technically go QB in the draft, but I think they'll go RB and retain Pennington. They did, afterall, give him that contract. But they need insurance and Volek is the man. Both sides are happy; we get our third back, Volek has a much better guaruntee of starting and the Jets get their insurance plus someone who knows the system. It's a Win/Win situation.
Now to hit the FA market, hopefully I havn't put it off too long and can find the key vets I need. First and foremost, I'd grab Will Witherspoon, a OLB from Carolina. He's not "cold footage" waiting to happen, but is solid and young. With the Depth in this years draft, I think Carolina could afford to let him go plus Thomas Davis, their first round selection this year, is looking to be converted to LB anyways. Saftey's my next priority. Chavous would be my dream candidate, but could likely be resigned by the Vikes or go somewhere else before I get the chance to nab him. He's a Vandy alum, maybe that's enough to convince him to come back.
Draft day's here and it's time to make some critical decisions. As of now, I've got picks in all seven rounds, plus another fifth for Dyson and seventh I think for Calmus. I've got two scenario's depending on what happens in regards to KVB.
KVB stays:
(1) Ahmad Brooks (May be a bit of a reach and I'm thinking this one over. I like what he brings in the middle, but his injury history concerns me.)
(2) Bernard Pollard, S. Purdue or Greg Blue, S. Georgia (Hopefully, one of these guys are around.)
(3) Darrell Hackney, QB. UAB (Good developmental QB with some good tools, who could be a bit like McNair, but not near as polished coming out. Would do him some good behind McNair and let Chow work on his Mechanics and Technique. He could stand to drop to 230 or 235 and improve his athleticism somewhat.)
(4) Terna Nande, OLB. Miamo(OH) (Good depth at LB, solid prospect)
(5a) Taitusi Lutui, G. USC (A good Guard prospect from one of college's premier OLines.)
(5b) Jeff Webb, WR. SDST (BPA. This kid has gotten some publicity on some Draft boards. He's shown some good hands and could develope into a #1. This is insurance for Calico.)
(6,7a,7b) BPA.
KVB is gone:
(1) Mario Williams, DE. NCST (This kid is the next Peppers, you can't pass on him. Hopefully he'll more than make up for KVB's departure.)
(2) Abdul Hodge, ILB. Iowa (I need a force in the middle and this kid hits like a ton of bricks.)
(3) Darrell Hackney, QB. UAB (See above.)
(4) Daniel Bullocks, S. Nebraska (I need safety help and this guys a good pick up at this point. Solid prospect, not as good as his brother, but solid.)
(5a) Taitusi Lutui, G. USC (see above.)
(5b) Jeff Webb, WR. SDST (see above.)
(6, 7a, 7b) BPA.
Preety much the same things, with certain changes to accomodate my needs. Discuss and have at it. It's a bit wishfull and farfetched, but it's nice to dream a little.
Gunny 12-23-2005, 06:53 PM Terna Nande - I got him on Madden once and he was quick as, I was just wondering if he is fast in real life?
DeutschTitan 12-23-2005, 06:54 PM Yeah he is from what I've read, havn't had a chance to see him.
paraconspiracy 12-23-2005, 10:16 PM nice off season there...
still think the qb needs to be worked out soon(my opinion)... but if omar, vince and quinn stay in school i'd be more than happy with that scenario
i like slay more than bullocks... he's listed as a 4th rd. guy on some sites and already broke derrick kohnson's forced fumble record from last year... plus he HURTS PEOPLE:grrr:
The Titans don't do anything particularily well except return kicks. When you are weak everywhere, then you have to set priorities and try to get very good at 1 or 2 things.
My priorities would be:
1. Find a QB of the future. Mcnair's body is breaking down and he's too expensive and not dependable.
2. Upgrade the running game (OL and RB)
3. Upgrade the run defense (maybe DT but certainly more speed at SOLB)
Let a true #1 WR wait and give our 3 rookies a chance to develop. Wait on upgrading the safety position. (Draft a developmental prospect on the second day, but not early unless a great player fell into our laps in round 2.)
I also think from watching Rivers play that he's worth our #1. You always take a good QB prospect whenever you have the chance, IMO.
Banshee2 12-25-2005, 03:38 PM Let's not forget there's a certain S from Va Tech that's on the IR right now with some promise.
I'm not in the Rivers camp. I think we'd have to pay too much to get him, and that's not even counting the fact that his freaking contract would be up FAR before any rookie that we draft, meaning we'd have to turn around and pay him AGAIN. That's not to mention the fact that McNair's going to be around for another year or two to mentor...
titan west 12-30-2005, 12:32 AM Titans dream senario would be to trade our 1st pick and Volek to the NY Jets and a player to be named later, maybe Calico or ? For their 1st pick which we use to select Leinart. For the second a top LB prospect would be nice. The team probably could get along with Mauck as back up to Leinart.
Gunny 12-30-2005, 08:49 AM first of all why would we trade our pick, Volek and another player to move up potentially one or two spots?
secondly, McNair or another vet will be with the Titans next year, we won't start a rookie.
thirdly, the Titans may have Cutler rated higher then Leinart.
finally the Jets wouldnt want a 30 year old QB when they could get their future in this draft with Leinart or Cutler.
GLinks 12-30-2005, 02:06 PM They'd get Volek, who can play while they see if Chad is going to be able to return again -- if they draft Leinhart, Chad is done. Possible if Edwards is gone, less likely if he stays. They'd get our first draft pick, so they could still get an impact player, plus someone else, someone with potential who is not working out too well for us. We'd unload a little on the cap and get the player we want.
super_titan 12-30-2005, 05:29 PM Last year we took 3 OL. Year before 3 DE, this year we take 3 QBS.:ha:
titan west 12-31-2005, 12:24 PM 1st the Jets would get a proven winner in the Dinger system, and at a good price. The Jets could use their 2nd or 3rd on a developmental qb and get what they really need but still win. Chad has 1 start in the system and you really think hes better than Volek? They would only drop 4 spots or so. and if you take an honest look at the Jets, qb is where they strugggled.
C'mon man tell me that during Mcnairs first years you couldn't see his indecisiveness not until Dingers 3rd year did you see his progression and before that in Steckels system it was EG rt, EG lt, EG up the middle and a toss to the te. Then the MusicCityMiracle. Thats the Titans. and tell me now that its any different, don't get me wrong I bleed blue and have tattoo to boot.
The only way I'm happy is if we draft Leinart and a stud lb and if we don't do this I'll still make the trip to Tenn twice per year and 1 road trip to west.
metal957 01-02-2006, 04:59 PM Vince Young if he comes out but if not A.J MUTHAEFFIN HAWK!!
GLinks 01-02-2006, 05:04 PM They've just done the coin toss for the Fiesta Bowl and I'm about ready to take AJ Hawk with the #3 pick.
Last year we took 3 OL. Year before 3 DE, this year we take 3 QBS.:ha:
don't forget we took 3 WR's
this year we might take 3 safeties and / or LB's
GLinks 01-02-2006, 05:43 PM Finally saw Hawk made a good play, blowing up a 2nd and 2. Then he sacked the QB. That's after he got driven back downfield on a previous play.
The showed the girlfriend/sister again. She's wearing a split ND/OState Jersey, and looked apathetic when her beau sacked her bro. Probably not the best play to cheer on anyway.
smili 01-02-2006, 06:36 PM Good QB are so important to a team's success. Yeah, you can have an OK QB and get by - sometimes even win superbowls - but we want an above average QB if we can get him. When Steve was clicking he could win games for us through sheer will. We want a QB with that kind of gamechanging potential.
In an interview on TV yesterday McNair said he felt he had a couple more years left in him. I think he started to say a "few" but stopped and said a "couple" instead. If he's that close I think getting the next QB in here asap is crucial. That's assuming he reworks his deal to stay a Titan for 2 more years. If not, we go with Billy. Either way I'm thinking bringing new QB in is moving up in priority if franchise QB is available.
We've got so many holes though, I couldn't argue with pick of best avail Def in first round or even taking OT if he's the real deal. I'm always in favor of trading down for more picks in quality 1-4 rnds.
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