4th and 1....and you call THAT????

Way to sabotage your own team, and take their chances away from converting on 4th and short.

Then...go for it again later rather than kicking the FG.



These guys played great today. McNair, Troupe, Bennett, the defense...Most everyone stepped up...

and the coaches screwed them over.

well our pass D was definitely not good to be honest with you..

but troupe and bennent came alive along with mcnair today...their performance was great

and once again we could not run the ball in 2nd half when he had the lead...

game didn't come down to that 4th down - they moved at will on us in the 4th quarter.

Please.................:shake:

E, you sometimes have no clue.

The game didn't come down to that 4th down?

What was the final score again?... had we converted that 4th down, we win this game more than likely.

Yes, the game came down to those 2 fourth downs. Moreso the first.

game didn't come down to that 4th down - they moved at will on us in the 4th quarter.


your right that they ran all over us in the fourth quarter, but not kicking the field goal was a terrible coaching move. If we get 3 points their, then we actually have a shot to take the lead on the later driver where we missed the 4th down. Whether that lead wouldve held is another story, but not kicking the field goal was horrible.

atleast he didnt blame McNair.

The game didn't come down to that 4th down?

What was the final score again?... had we converted that 4th down, we win this game more than likely.

Yes, the game came down to those 2 fourth downs. Moreso the first.
not going to argue with you because that seems to be a priority with you. Pretty obvious to everyone else though so....

In no way should we have kicked that field goal and I have no problem with the play call either... Brown kept bouncing outside on a play that appeared to be a dive.

I don't understand on that one 4th, why give it to Brown? I rather give it to Steve on a sneak or Henry - Chris' running style just wont get it done.

In no way should we have kicked that field goal and I have no problem with the play call either... Brown kept bouncing outside on a play that appeared to be a dive.


why shouldnt we have kicked the field goal? we were up by 3, that wouldve made it 6, so even if they score a TD then we only need a field goal to win. Im sorry, but Fisher blew that call and Im not sure how you can think other wise.

We had a chance to put the game away... thats all I can say because if it had worked you would be praising him right now, but I think he would do the same thing if he had the chance.

We had a chance to put the game away... thats all I can say because if it had worked you would be praising him right now, but I think he would do the same thing if he had the chance.


Im sure he would do the same thing if he had a chance, because he made a similar call last year against houston that wouldve brought us within a TD with 3 timeouts and the two minute warning on the board. Instead he goes for it and we dont make it and basically take away any chance we have of winning. Fisher is a great coach , but that was a poor decision. We had proven we could move the ball on them and proven we could play with them, why not just take the 6 point lead, where the worst case scenario would be, seattle scores, and we only need a FG to win. Instead we get no points, seattle scores, and we need TD to win, makes no sense what so ever.

(Bulluck)that sums it up - we've only won a few games this year. Why not go for the throat. Hassleback threw 3tds almost 300 yds, Alexander put up 170.....but we lost because we went for it on a 4th and didn't get it.

jeez guys. i was going to come on here and compliment our boys and you're angry? we lost. sure. but we should have lost. by more points than that. we got a taste of what next season might look like and frankly i liked it.

I don't understand on that one 4th, why give it to Brown? I rather give it to Steve on a sneak or Henry - Chris' running style just wont get it done.

I don't think Henry would have made that 1st even if he were actually playing today. Our OL as usual got blown up at the line. I do think the play was stupid because instead of running a dive we ran what looked like a mini stretch play. Our OL simply cannot block those plays. The called hole was absolutely stuffed with DL so Brown went outside to try to make somehting of it.

My biggest concern is McNair on those plays. McNair has to make a decision at the LOS and change the play. On one of the plays McNair had a bubble over right guard and instead of simply sneaking it for the yard we end up running a worthless call.

On the other 4th down at the end of the game McNair looked at Scaife the whole way. The Hawks triple teamed Scaife and McNair misses Troupe (I think) who was wide open. McNair actually still threw the ball kinda to Scaife. In that situation McNair has to take off running or pick another reciever. Heck, it was the ball game. Anything would have been better than that worthless throw.

why shouldnt we have kicked the field goal? we were up by 3, that wouldve made it 6, so even if they score a TD then we only need a field goal to win. Im sorry, but Fisher blew that call and Im not sure how you can think other wise.
because we weren't going to stop them on defense anyway. after we didnt make it they went 93 yards. as opposed to if we did make it, we have a 10 point lead and they would have to go 80 yards twice(which im sure they would have done)

because we weren't going to stop them on defense anyway. after we didnt make it they went 93 yards. as opposed to if we did make it, we have a 10 point lead and they would have to go 80 yards twice(which im sure they would have done)


ok, but if we kicked the FG we wouldve only needed another FG to win, instead of a TD. I really dont understand how that isnt the obvious option. Your right, we couldnt stop them, so why not put yourself in a position to where you only need a FG to win, especially since our offense had proven we could move the football?

not to mention our team has not been good in short yardage conversions, or in the redzone. Even if we get that first down there is no guarantee we get a TD out of it. So we basically tried to do something that we have not been good at all year, which results in us having to try and convert more 4th downs on the next drive, instead of being able to kick a FG.

You think the D played good???? I thought it was one of the, if not the worst performance of the season.

I don't agree with the 4th down call either. When you're ahead, play conservative. However saying it cost us the game is little much. We used on average 4 minutes per drive, the Seahawks used 3.5 minutes. So even had we kicked the 2 FG's, there would still be half a quarter left. However I still believe you kick the FG to pad the lead and hope the defense can make a stop or at least force them to use a lot of clock.

they should of not of called it, but they did not really need to convert the chances of making it to the playoffs, but it still would of been cool if they had at least made it, let alone win it.

Hey, I know...with everyone stacked in the box, lets run a slow developing run play!

That's SURE to get us a first down!....

Any other time we sneak that ball. Any other time we convert. Too bad we're wanting a better draft pick instead of wins.


Not only was it entirely STUPID to go for it on that 4th, but the playcall was STUPID aswell. It'd be different if we tried something that had a slight chance of working...but nope....wonder why we'd do such a thing?....Maybe so our players buy into us "trying to win" when we're doing the exact opposite.

then they did it again...when they should've kicked a fg.

Most the time that's Fisher's style. He didn't try to win this game. Sorry folks. He tried to blow it in the end.

what was STUPID was their 3 play 80 yard drive for a td that destroyed any momentum we had.

and I'm not sure but I believe the missed 4th down was intended to go right up the gut but the line got blown up - not necessarily "a slow developing run play"

they played a very good team today and probably could have one had a few things gone differently I can agree with you on that. The throwing the game stuff is just bs and pointless to even throw out there.

Most the time that's Fisher's style. He didn't try to win this game. Sorry folks. He tried to blow it in the end.
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if we didn't try to win the game, dont you think we would have let them keep scoring after they went up 14-0?

lol come on now

Hello guys, Seahawk fan here from Anchorage. McNair played very well against our weak coverage, and this is our first game with out a recorded sack all year.

I knew coming into this game it would be close, every game Jeff has coached against us, we've only managed to slip by with 3 points.

Like a few of my Seahawk brothers said, the Titans would have probably won the game if you went for a couple of field goals instead of going for it on 4th down.

I'm glad Jarrett Payton got his 2nd TD, just not against us hehe.

See ya in 2009 at Qwest field.

I liked the call to go for it on 4th down. I didn't like the play, but I liked going for it. It was at a point in the game where it seemed like we could've won the game with a TD score at that point and they went for it.

Not that I think Seattle would've rolled over - but like Wychek says on his radio show -there are points in time where you're almost able to break a team's will, and I think Seattle could've felt they were beat if we scored a TD.

Hind-sight is 20/20.

If the play had worked, you'd be hailing Fisher and Co. as geniouses.


Move on. It was a hard faught game, and this team won respect with me.

I just don't understand the play calling on the two 4th downs we didn't convert. The first one, they only had four guys on the line of scrimmage. We could have easily ran a sneak for the 1st down. The second one, it would appear that McNair had the option to go to Scaife or Troupe. McNair even said he decided to go to Scaife immediately and stuck with him hoping he could make a play. Why not look for the second option? He wasn't under any pressure.

That's shocking he looked to Scaife and not Troupe, who had one of the best games of his career today and was on fire.

I don't understand on that one 4th, why give it to Brown? I rather give it to Steve on a sneak or Henry - Chris' running style just wont get it done.


Definitely should have been a sneak. McNair had a sneak later in the game, where the safety hit him, and didnt move him in inch backwards.

Yeah, that came right after the Brown failed conversion. Its surprising they didn't do it again. The commentators were saying all day how undersized the Seattle's front line was and we didn't take advantage of it on the other conversion.

Good to see the offense play well today. The defense just got schredded all day. They were trying to run the clock out at the end of the game and we can't even get them to third down?

JDee

I have no problem with going for it (if you can't make that 1st down you don't deserve to win IMO). I really don't understand the stupid play call. What is so hard about calling a wedge block and running a slam play behind your best OG (assuming we have one)? Our OL stinks overall but especially when they have to reach or pull. We would be better off having Todd Williams playing and running straight up blocking schemes (as in knock the guy directly in front of you on his arse) instead of this cutsy crap. Contrary to alot of people's beliefs Brown is not bad when he is running a straight slam type play. Where Brown isn't very good is anything that requires lateral movement especially in short yardage. So to summarize we called a play that was not the best play for our OL or our RB and the results showed. Another issue I have is with McNair. Either he doen't have the freedom or the understanding of spotting the weak point in the defense and exploiting it. Call a slam run with stright wedge blocking in the huddle. At the line call the designated hole. Even in HS the QB had an option of calling out "black opposite" which simply changed the play to the oppposite side. Teams that cannot get one yard don't deserve to win IMO.

I like the fact that they went for it too considering the circomstance of our team. It's not like we had anything to lose. I can't believe the play call either, though. How many times are we going to run that play on 4th down before someone on the sideline figures out that it doesn't work. The oline has to step it up on those plays and they got man handled, just they have all year.

OLine should be embarrased on not getting those conversions, especially that one down at the Seattle 6. Their frontline is extremely undersized and our bigger OL should have been able to get atleast a good push, but no we allow an undersized, but fast frontline to chase Brown around the corner and stop him. :sad2:

Anyone complaining about the fake punt?

If that hadn't worked, we would have had a dozen threads saying he should have just punted the ball.

You gamble at times in a game. You win some, you lose some. A good team wins more than they lose, and we're not there yet....

Big picture, what does it matter?