During the game on TV they said that the Titans were "enamored" with Jay Cutler. Being out here in Arizona I have never seen him play. Is he that good? What are his strengths and weeknesses? Thanks!!

He played for Vanderbilt. Because of Cutler, they had a chance to play in a bowl game but it didn't happen. They almost beat Florida and they did beat Tennessee. He's a smart player, good reactions.
Would I take Cutler over Vince Young or Rivers? I don't think I would. Who knows what the Titans are going to do.
I'm wondering if the Titans have looked at Penn States QB, Robinson.

The media threw alot of names around that the Titans were suposedly "enamored" with last season and we didn't draft a single one of them. One was Reggie Brown, WR from Georgia, but that was a matter of him going in the second to the Eagles before we had a chance to grab him. Point is, the Media are shootin blanks and don't know who the Titans are "enamored" with. Jay isn't bad and many compare him to Favre.

I'm wondering if the Titans have looked at Penn States QB, Robinson.
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I take it that you don't like Robinson!!!!

I hope they take Cutler. It would be fantastic to see him in a Titans uniform.

He's not a bad QB

I don't think the Titans would spend a 1st round on Cutler. Do you think he'll be there in the second?
If the Titans manage to pull off a trade for Rivers, would they still take Cutler if available? I'm assuming that Volek will go some place else. I am forgetting about Mauke(?) whom I don't know much about. Will he still be around in 2006?

Cutler appears to be a 1st round lock at this point, possibly a top 15 pick.

Jay Cutler + Matt Jones = 1st round pick.

In Jay Cutler's case it means top tier 1st round pick.
Plus millions of more dollars.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone.

Cutler is a good QB prospect but I'm not convinced yet that he goes in the first. There's a lot of hype about him in Nashville because he is local. Let's see how he does at the Senior Bowl and combine.

Even Mel Kiper wrote an article recently suggesting he'd be in the top half of round 1 (though I'm not willing to pay to read it).

The guys on TV also said that the Titans are bringing McNair back and that Chow and McNair are looking to have a long a fruitful relationship...I have such a hard time taking anything CBS commentators say seriously anyways.

Sometimes I think they troll fan forums like this one for their so called "news".

Besides, and please take this seriously because I'm not joking...
The Titans F.O. are notorious B.S'ers...you never know what they are really thinking. When it comes to stuff like this it's all poker face.

around the second week of april listen to chris mortenson. he nailed the pacman pick and that we would take troupe the past two years.

around the second week of april listen to chris mortenson. he nailed the pacman pick and that we would take troupe the past two years.

Morttie's the only guy worth listening to. Mel Kiper is nothing but phoney, even his hair's phoney.

There are many teams that are grading Jay Cutler ahead of Matt Leinart.

Morttie's the only guy worth listening to. Mel Kiper is nothing but phoney, even his hair's phoney.Kiper is good at player analysis, he's just not good at picking team needs and what they will do.

I think if we decide we want Jay and hes gonna be our guy that we should take him no matter where we draft at. If you think someone is gonna be the future of your team at QB you have take them when your number is called. Jay has size, arm stregth, brains, toughness, and deceptive speed. Ive watched the guy play almost every game for 4 years so I'm somewhat biased but I do believe he was what it takes.

Not a Vandy fan but I rooted for Vandy because I liked Jay. He has what it takes. Reminds me of a young Bret Farve

Kiper is good at player analysis, he's just not good at picking team needs and what they will do.

I agree with SK, he is a good evaluator of talent. He is one of the few personalities at ESPN that I actually like.

If the Titans draft Cutler or another QB in the first, can they afford to have McNairs money and a first round picks money tied up in one postion for a year or 2?

If we draft a rookie early, we're going to need a veteran to mentor him. So the salary cap tied up at QB isn't really an issue. Especially since picking a QB at #6 wouldn't be any more expensive overall than any other position we'd take there.

I agree with SK, he is a good evaluator of talent. He is one of the few personalities at ESPN that I actually like.

he talks to fast I reckon.

If we draft a rookie early, we're going to need a veteran to mentor him. So the salary cap tied up at QB isn't really an issue. Especially since picking a QB at #6 wouldn't be any more expensive overall than any other position we'd take there.

Right, but I mean can we have that much money tied up in one postion just sitting when maybe we could get an impact player at another position LB, or Saftey?

With QBs, you draft for the future rather than for that year. So while you could get an immediate impact player at another position, that also means you give up the chance to add a franchise QB.

Did the Bengals pick wrong when they took Carson Palmer just because he sat for a year? He's better now than anyone else in the top 15 that year.

As for the money, I don't think it factors in. It's roughly the same amount of money no matter who you draft. It doesn't matter how it breaks down from position to position.

There are many teams that are grading Jay Cutler ahead of Matt Leinart.

and you'll probably see more of that as we entire the combines
Jay just looks like he has better mechanics
and just some uncanny instincts - unteachable stuff

put Jay on USC and you'd probably get similar or better results
put Matt on Vandy and you get similar to worse results
IMO

I personally feel that Cutler is a better pro prospect than Lienart
BUT, if there's one coach Matt needs it's Chow
Matt's best shot in the pros could very well be here

it's hard - more than likely both will be there if we pick 6th
and neither will be there in the 2nd round

lots of players available early that we need (or like)
D'Brickashaw while not a sexy pick is probably the most prudent
AJ HAwk is a nice bar room brawl pick
Cutler would be a city-wide favorite regardless of where he's picked
Lienart would be a fan pick especially if we trade back and still get him

lots of options,.... so little picks

Leinhart is used to winning and he's just as good. I'd take Leinhart any day of the week.

cant go past lefties.

Now Frank Whycheck is on the Jay Cutler bandwagon. These guys are just now saying what ive been thinking for months now. Now some "draft experts" say Jay could go in the top 10.

i havent seen him play but I remember early in the season when he first came up he was meant to be a 2nd rounder, now he is looked at as a possible top 10.

Has he always been good or has he broken out this season?
how many years has he started at Vandy?

He was a 4 year starter at Vandy. He had a breakout season this year, but honestly he was pretty good last year even though he didn't have stats to show it. He probably would have been drafted in about the 5th round and considered coming out early.

Leinhart is used to winning and he's just as good. I'd take Leinhart any day of the week.

Matt's also had a MUCH better supporting cast

4 year starter and 3 year team captain I think, gotta give him props for working witht the cast he had.

I would have absolutely no problem drafting Cutler w/our first pick... I almost look forward to the thought of it.

I would have absolutely no problem drafting Cutler w/our first pick... I almost look forward to the thought of it.

Okay, fine, but trade back a few picks and pick up some draft picks for this and next year's draft. Maybe be trade down to around 18-20 and pick up a third rounder this year and a first or second next year.

Matt's also had a MUCH better supporting cast
That may be true but you still have to perform. Matt wins games under preasure. A LOT! They wouldn't be undefeated if it weren't for him, IMO. I like Jay and I certainly wouldn't be disappoitned if the Titans got him. I just think Leinhart has more to offer. You can teach football but you can't teach a guy to make big plays under preasure and he's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he can make big plays under the most expreme preasure.

Jay has certainly won games under pressure, true not to the extreme that Leinart has. But when you have Reggie Bush to fall back on its certainly easier. Watch Vanderbilt highlights from Wake Forest, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and especially Tennessee. All games won in the last drives.

Not arguing with that. You have to understand I'm a big ND fan and I pooped myself when Matt made that pass for 60yds when it was 4th and 9 with the game on the line. Pretty impressive. Then on the other hand, Jay is and Indiana boy that grew up in Santa Claus IN which isn't to far from where I'm from so I guess he's alright too. Hell, I'd just be excited to get a good QB for the future.

Hell, I'd just be excited to get a good QB for the future.

I'm sure there'll be fans of both (I'm staunchly in the Vince Young camp, provided he comes out...), but for the record, I'll be happy for anything that helps "us" win again. Whatever that move proves to be...

Okay, fine, but trade back a few picks and pick up some draft picks for this and next year's draft. Maybe be trade down to around 18-20 and pick up a third rounder this year and a first or second next year.Cutler may not be there come the mid part of round one (1)... theres a good chance he could go in the top ten (10), fifteen (15).

That may be true but you still have to perform. Matt wins games under preasure. A LOT! They wouldn't be undefeated if it weren't for him, IMO. I like Jay and I certainly wouldn't be disappoitned if the Titans got him. I just think Leinhart has more to offer. You can teach football but you can't teach a guy to make big plays under preasure and he's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he can make big plays under the most expreme preasure.
Yeah Matt made big plays under big pressure......so did Ken Dorsey, Jason White, Ryan Leaf, Craig Krenzel.....the list goes on and on. I do think Matt will be a much better NFL QB than all of those but it is true that they all made big plays in big games with the game on the line. Look at Brett Favre he never played a game with anywhere near the marbles that Leinart did and he was considered on of the most clutch and best QB's of all time. Winning big games in college under pressure only goes so far. Jay is a warrior he as what it takes even if hes never played in the big game.

Vandy got a bowl game?

No, they chocked against Kentucky and MTSU, two games they should have won.

Yeah Matt made big plays under big pressure......so did Ken Dorsey, Jason White, Ryan Leaf, Craig Krenzel.....the list goes on and on.
I don't think any of those guys went undefeated for three straight years. Big difference. Leinhart will go way before Cutler and odds are we won't have a chance at either, anyway...

Leinhart could still fall to us around 6, especially if we trade Volek to the Jets to keep them from drafting him. Cutler will surely be there when we pick. Maybe not, but in all likelihood, he will.

You guys are crazy, you downgrade Leinart cause his team is great, thats what you want when you are a player, a good team. Its not Leinart's fault that other players decided to come to USC, Leinart is a winner that has great mechanics. Stop trying to look for a way to make Leinart not seem good, Leinart's a winner. When he came out of high school he was good, and when he comes to the NFL he will be good, don't let his team fool you. Leinart is great, is a leader, and has Montana like qualites. He will always make the play and will never let you lose, he's a rich man's Tom Brady. Frankly, him or Vince Young are the players I am hoping the Titans get.

Watch Vanderbilt highlights from Wake Forest, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and especially Tennessee.
did they beat any good teams this year?

Those were big wins for Vanderbilt. They essentialy kept Tennessee out of a Bowl game this year (remember Tennessee beat LSU this year and barely lost to Bama). Vandy also gave Florida all they wanted at Florida this year and although they were behind 34-10 at the half Cutler almost brought Vandy back against Kentucky (396 yards and 5 TDs). In the loss to MTSU Vandy had a shot a winning FG but the kick was blocked.

Vandy had a chance to win the Fla game as well, but got no love from the refs on the phantom "taunting" call that kept them for going for 2, as I recall...

Matt's also had a MUCH better supporting cast

That was the situation when the Oilers took McNair over Kerry Collins.

I don't think any of those guys went undefeated for three straight years. Big difference. Leinhart will go way before Cutler and odds are we won't have a chance at either, anyway...

You do have to admit that Leinhart has had as much offensive talent around him as any college QB in the history of college football for 3 years. His RBs, WRs and OL have been awesome and many are in the pros or heading there.
How many pro level RBs, WRs and OL has Cutler played with? Cutler also has played in a much tougher conference with that iinferior talent around him.

Thats why Rivers is not going anywhere, he's the future of San Diego and they will be better next year with him.