According to GBN report the Titans will pick 3rd. Just looked it up.

How? We have the same record as San Fran, and we beat them. Is there another measure that you look at before the head-to-head to determine the position?

Can u post that link

Strength of Schedule is the first factor in tie-breaking for draft position

gee you'd think head to head would be, it determines who is the better team between them.

http://www.gbnreport.com/index.htm

Yeah, head-to-head would make sense, but I am not going to argue with 3rd.

gee you'd think head to head would be, it determines who is the better team between them.
I can sort of see why they don't go by head-to-head.
It's not how you did against one team , but how you did against the league.

If you have the same record as another team which played weaker teams than you, then they need more help than you.

thats a point.

Head to head doesnt really work on a 3, 4 ,5 way tie anyway.

According to the article, San Fran does pick behind us.

1. Houston, 2. New Orleans, 3. Tennessee

Even though I'm a huge Texas Longhorn fan, I want Vince Young as a Titan.

He may declare for the draft anyway....

TJ

Dang, my bad...we beat San Fran, I forgot how much we stunk it up before we put some TD's up and won the game.....

Didn't that happen to us with the Raiders last year...lost to them, and they picked ahead of us....

Head to head does not come into play. The Titans pick third because their strength of schedule is worse than the teams they are tied with.

We have to get the quarterback of the future picking this high, even if we have to trade up with Houston to get Leinart - assuming Chow thinks he is worth it.

well I agree, but neither the Cows nor the Aint's need a QB with Carr and Brooks.

Looks like Brooks could be a goner.

Houston would draft Reggie Bush and every report I've heard has the Saints picking Leinart. Benching Brooks was the sign that he's gone in N.O.

was he benched again today?

That would be outstanding if the chance to draft Leinart fell into our lap!!!!

Brooks is dead meat. Leinart will be eating cajun food next year.

According to draft rankings I have seen, there is no one who fits our needs worth picking at #3 except Bush or Leinart. Maybe picking #3 sucks for the Titans???? Will they have to reach?

do the Titans trade down to get more picks and Jay Cutler??

The best offensive lineman to come out in years will be there if you happen to think our offensive line isn't up to snuff.

I thought Michael Roos was going to move to left tackle?

Trade out of #3 methinks. Vince Young isn't top-10 material, he's only worth it if his athletic talent is up to scratch with someone like mcnabb, and even then he'd need a true #1. This draft is ****ty for WRs. I'd hate the VYoung pick.

Two great scenarios that are totally realistic - well probably

A take the OLman

B Young declare eligable and Titans take him 3rd and McNair hangs for a couple of years to mentor him

Are we not going to consider AJ Hawk?

do the Titans trade down to get more picks and Jay Cutler??


Seems like the most logical choice at this point. Unless somehow, by some miracle, Bush falls to us at #3, then it would be smart to get a few more #2s, #3s, or maybe a lower #1 with some other picks. We need a lot of bang for the buck, if you feel me; we have a number of holes to fill.:hmm:

I guess it would be hard to pass on Leinart if he fell to us, but to get The Brick at #3 would be pretty sweet.

We either take the Brick or hope another team wants him enough to trade with us. Roos can stay at RT and Bell can move to OG. A franchise LT is worth that early of a pick if a guys really looks like a stud.

I would like to get him. It's nice to have options, I'll acknowledge that much.

I've been hearing that Houston may trade down because they may not want Bush because they are satisfied with Davis. Houston probably would like to get Fergusen (the Offensive Tackle from Virginia). I can see the Jets and 49ers trading up to get Bush. Saints will definitely get Leinert (poor matt). And then its us, the Titans. If we dont trade out, we are guarenteed get one of the three star prospects (Bush, Leinert, Fergusen). Do we trade down to about the 7 or 9 area to get someone like AJ Hawk, or do we stay put. I would mind getting an extra first round pick and coming out of the draft with AJ Hawk and maybe even Darnell Bing from the first round...I can't wait. Im happy everything turned out perfect for the titans today regarding the draft (except that the Saints won...)

TITANS '06!!!

Hawk is another good one. See 3rd is good

did anyone see our defense today? we gave up 27 points in the first half to super stars like reggie williams, david garrard and labrandon toefield. take hawk, PLEASE!

Mike Keith and Frank Wychek said at the tale end of the broadcaswt that our slotting hinges on the St. Louis game tonight

I'm fine with 3, even though, I don't see a clear #3
We need D'Brickashaw, but #3 is a little high
some folks want Aj Hawk , see above
Vince Young =poor man's Mike Vick, I like him and I don't
Jay Cutler's my man ...... about 7 picks back

last year, their were 2 Qb's,3 RB's,a WR and 2 CB's all slated in the top 5
this year it looks like there's only 2 premiere players

which makes #3 a crappy place to pick

If Reggie goes #1 and Matt #2 ..... what does that leave us at #3 ?

If Houston does not want Bush, we should trade up with them and get Leinart. He might not have the stronget arm but he is a winner - see Tom Brady...

If Houston does not want Bush, we should trade up with them and get Leinart. He might not have the stronget arm but he is a winner - see Tom Brady...

Is that a product of Matt
or his surrounding cast
or his outstanding coach

just because he's on a winning team, doesn't make it his doing

however, I think Matt's best shot at success is with Chow



on a side note, I bet San Diego would like to pick 3rd
maybe we trade them picks for Rivers, slide back and draft DeAngelo
pipe dream ..... but San Diego likes pipes

Does Rivers have a stong arm, I have heard he reminds people of Bernie Kosar?

My favorite scenario is to trade down and get another first round pick. We then get two defensive playmakers with those picks, hopefully AJ Hawk and a safety, like Darnell Bing or Landry. I think we have a good defensive line, but drafting a guy like Kiwanuka or Dumervil wouldnt hurt.

Oh man, how i would love to get AJ Hawk first and then Chad Greenway/Demeco Ryans/Thomas Howard with the second first round pick...

Also, theres Eric Winston, someone who was thought to be a top 10 pick if he came out last year, before he got hurt. He could be a great offensive tackle...

There are so many possibilities. My mind is running wild!!!

Bulluck and Hawk would be wicked together!

Only way we consider AJ is if we trade down to get another pick

If Houston does not want Bush, we should trade up with them and get Leinart. He might not have the stronget arm but he is a winner - see Tom Brady...

If Houston don't want Bush, let them sit and pick Brick, or trade back. No way should we trade up and let Houston get some sense of karma by screwing us like we did to them in the 04 draft.

That way, NO takes Leinhart and Bush falls to us at 3. If teams really want him, they can deal with us.

The only way to get two first round picks is to trade with a team that has two firsts, or trade players to a team willing to give a first rounder for them (such as Billy Volek, Travis Henry and Bo Schobel, for instance - that takes care of the Jets' issues, QB, future RB and DE).

That way, NO takes Leinhart and Bush falls to us at 3. If teams really want him, they can deal with us.

Houston desparately needs a guy like D'Brick
let NO take Lienart - alot of people are starting to downgrade him anyway
but I do not see a scenario where Reggie Bush falls to #3

if Houston doesn't want Bush, there's no doubt in my mind that they SHOULD trade out of the slot. but then again, Houston doesn't make great draft day trade decisions :winker:

If Reggie Bush falls to #3, I'll pass out

The only way Houston takes Bush at this point, IMO, is if they have a buyer in mind. They'll take The Brick first if they have any sense, and move down to get him.

If Reggie Bush DOES fall to us at #3 and we DO NOT draft him, I'll be very pissed ...... and Floyd should be fired

If Reggie Bush DOES fall to us at #3 and we DO NOT draft him, I'll be very pissed ...... and Floyd should be fired


I don't know about fired; If we take anyone else at #3 and Bush is available, then yeah I'd have a problem. But if Bush was available, and we traded out for someone like Brick or for more picks, then I wouldn't have a problem.

No way would they pass on that - oh they'd think about it good and hard, and if it was for a 1, 2 and 3 and a future pick, I'd say sure, go do it - but even our boys would wake up. They'd either take Bush or the Deal of the Century.

It's possible if Houston doesn't sell the position, and the Texans don't fire Casserly til after the draft, that Casserly screws them, or helps us, with a straight face and drafts D'Brickashaw ten seconds into their time on the clock.

It all amounts to the same, Houston stays or sells, Bush is likely gone at #1, then Leinhart at #2, and our choices unfold from there.

The good news is if all that happens and Houston trades down, we can probably trade our first with them and maybe get another pick so they can trade back up for Ferguson. (Say they get a 1, 2 and future 1 for Bush, we can probably trade ones and get the two. We'll get a one and two twos, they have our one, one of the twos and a future one, for example.)

Only way we consider AJ is if we trade down to get another pick
unfortunately:sad2:

Hey, you never know.

well I agree, but neither the Cows nor the Aint's need a QB with Carr and Brooks.

NO is going to be looking for QB

Brooks is through. You can find him and Joey Harrington at the "bust" station, getting one-way tickets out of town.

"And with the second pick of the 2006 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select...Matt Leinhart, QB, USC."

If Reggie Bush falls to #3, I'll pass out

Agree, I think we're dreaming if we thing there's some scenario where Bush lasts until pick #3. NO would take him at #2, and it sounds like he's the kind of player many teams will trade up for.

He won't last past one in all likelihood, but I think NO passes at #2. They need QB too badly and have too much money in McCallister to make that choice seem likely.

I don't know about fired; If we take anyone else at #3 and Bush is available, then yeah I'd have a problem. But if Bush was available, and we traded out for someone like Brick or for more picks, then I wouldn't have a problem.

yeah my concept is that if he IS there @ 3 and we pass

I still don't see him there @ 3 though

but if he is, then he better be a Titan

not that i'm sure how accurate this phrae is, but I've heard, read and seen where Reggie Bush is one of the most promising prospects to come out since Shaun and LaDainion

rewind the clock and imagine yourself passing on either of those 2
LT2 went #5 -has 1200+ in EVERY season with no less than 10 TD's
Shaun went #19 and has never avgd. less than 4ypc or scored less than 14 TD's (rookies season excluded)

If Reggie is to be anything like either of these 2 ,then I see no reason to trade out.

The only thing I wonder about Bush is his size. Can he withstain the rigors of the NFL? 300+ carries, while staying relatively healthy and maintaining a good YPC to go along with his yardages. I know thats a question for every RB, but to draft a RB so high, to have so much hype, the questions still remain for me.

He won't last past one in all likelihood, .

I still think people are selling Dom Davis short

he's one of the most underrated RB's in the league
if he had anything resembling a line in front he'd be a top 5 back

I Can almost see Houston taking a QB before taking a RB

another scenario has Vince Young and Matt Lienart going 1 / 2

btw,... Houston fired Dom Capers, but retained their GM
a new HC might create some influence

this is going to be one LONG waiting / anticipation game

The only thing I wonder about Bush is his size.

alot of people said that about Emmitt

alot of people said that about Emmitt


Point taken. :ha:

alot of people said that about Emmitt

Size is issue -isn't he only 190? I just think too many teams will think he's the rare back of the decade - and somebody will trade up for him. Texans are in an excellent bargaining position.

You know, it might just be possible that Bush lasts until us.

Houston is happy with Dom Davis and decides on the Brick, New Orleans could trade out for someone wanting Bush but that most likely mean they miss out on Leinart (because we take him).

But if Houston don't want Bush they will trade out I would imagine.

God, the "What If" sceneros for the Draft have begun...:ha:

and got 4 months of it to go.

Every report I've seen has said Houston would take Reggie, if he we're available to them, and obviously he is. It may not make sense, and one would think that they'd take D'Brickashaw, but I've heard that they WILL take Bush if they get the #1. If this is what happens, New Orleans will more than likely take Leinart. Brooks is toast in NO. They've been starting Todd Bouman the past few games. They also have Adrian McPherson, who they drafted last year in the later rounds, but he is EXTREMELY raw as a QB, and will likely not be a starter.

That leaves us with a pick of taking D'Brickashaw (my pick), taking AJ Hawk, or possibly trading down and stockpiling more picks. Ideally, I'd like us to take D'Brickashaw with our 1st, and take a LB with our 2nd, since Cutler is likely to go off in the mid-late 1st. LBs that are likely to be available early 2nd, could be guys like D'Qwell Jackson, Abdul Hodge, Ernie Sims, Paul Posluzny(if he declares)...so this draft is loaded at LB.

God, the "What If" sceneros for the Draft have begun...:ha:

ok, "How 'bout" LenDale White
one site ranks him as the best 'POWER' back in the country
certainly more suited to Jeff's mentality

6.7 ypc and 21 TD's
he's also USC"s all time TD leader - scoring 49 TD's (in only 3 years)
led the team in rushing last year
hmmmm,.....

Well, I hate this idea, but if Houston wants to trade down and still have a good shot at Ferguson, then the best trading partner is -- us. We give them our first and a third (that we get from trading Volek or Henry, second if we get that for one of those guys, even; also, throw in an OT like Loper if necessary) and we get Bush, they get Brick before anyone else can select him - guaranteed.

Picking third gives us the ability to pick a high quality player, or trade down for multiple players. Let's face it , we have a lot of needs, one player won't turn the tide next season.

JDee

ok, "How 'bout" LenDale White
one site ranks him as the best 'POWER' back in the country
certainly more suited to Jeff's mentality

6.7 ypc and 21 TD's
he's also USC"s all time TD leader - scoring 49 TD's (in only 3 years)
led the team in rushing last year
hmmmm,.....

I suggested him if we were out of the top 5 - he suits Fisher to a T.

But at #3 - what about DeAngelo Williams if Bush is gone? If Bush is LaDanian and D.Williams is Shaun Alexander, would I take Alexander at #3 if LT wasn't there? Yes I would.

P Let's face it , we have a lot of needs, one player won't turn the tide next season.

JDee
Neither will one draft turn around what we have this year.
But one Franchise Player we could get at #3 could turn the tide in 2-3 years maybe.

Picking third gives us the ability to pick a high quality player, or trade down for multiple players. Let's face it , we have a lot of needs, one player won't turn the tide next season.

JDee

Third really is a good place to be - we got McNair at #3. And we have the possibility of selling our pick if we were lucky enough to have Bush or Leinhart fall to us. But maybe we can sell it for chances at Hawk, Ferguson, D. Williams, M. Williams, J.Williams, V.Young, etc.

The wait will be torture, but somehow enjoyable.

I suggested him if we were out of the top 5 - he suits Fisher to a T.

But at #3 - what about DeAngelo Williams if Bush is gone? If Bush is LaDanian and D.Williams is Shaun Alexander, would I take Alexander at #3 if LT wasn't there? Yes I would.

no, no, no, ....... LenDale in a later round

interesting equation you had going there

question : would yu rather have LT or Shaun Alexander ?
(me thinksa Shaun for me)

Well, I hate this idea, but if Houston wants to trade down and still have a good shot at Ferguson, then the best trading partner is -- us. We give them our first and a third (that we get from trading Volek or Henry, second if we get that for one of those guys, even; also, throw in an OT like Loper if necessary) and we get Bush, they get Brick before anyone else can select him - guaranteed.

I think it'd take much more than a 1st and a 3rd. San Diego got a ton to trade Eli to NY. I think they got another #1 and something like 2nd 3rd and 5th rounder -all for moving about 3-4 places

Me, too, Puck. Me, too.

No, top 10 is too high for LenDale, but he probably doesn't make it past Pittsburgh. I'd love to get him in round two, but that is unlikely. Philadelphia, New England, Arizona, either New York, Minnesota, Green Bay all need a new running back, too.

I think it'd take much more than a 1st and a 3rd. San Diego got a ton to trade Eli to NY. I think they got another #1 and something like 2nd 3rd and 5th rounder -all for moving about 3-4 places

I offered less because we'd be moving less than in that trade, or ATL moving from #5 to #1 to get Vick. The further you trade down, the less likely you still get the player you want. That's why we're "perfect." At #3 Houston can't miss on the Brick.

I really don't think running back is what we need at #3. I know Brown has been somewhat disappointing, but he is a quality NFL running back. We've got to go O-line or D-line or linebacker with the first pick. There isn't a quality QB to take as high as #3.

JDee

D'Brick - value - best LT in the draft
M Williams - value - may be best DE, can play DT, too. Young Kevin Carter, hopefully better.
D Williams - value - can replace CBrown and THenry. Can run and catch. Can move the pile, and elude defenders. Has wiggle and breakaway speed. "A danger to take it to the house every time he touches the ball." (I love that cliche.)
AJ Hawk - value - terror at LB.

Some of you will see many of these as reaches, but outside of franchise QB (value regardless of where selected), these are going to be the top players remaining regardless of position, and we could use one of each of them. And jdee, Ronnie Brown and Cadillac weren't needs last year, but if one was there at #6, we would have selected that player. We may have RB covered on paper, but you never know. Just like if some of us don't like Young or Cutler, it doesn't mean the FO won't pull the trigger and take one of them at #3. We don't have to like them for us to take them. See: Pacman Jones. And it could still be the right pick after all. That's the exciting part, once you've gotten over the realization that another draft has gone by and yet again Floyd and Jeff didn't listen to you once.

Philadelphia, New England, Arizona, either New York, Minnesota, Green Bay all need a new running back, too.

I'm sorry, but the Giants do not need a running back (imo)

Yeah you crazy dun? TIki Barber is an MVP candidate.

You know, it might just be possible that Bush lasts until us.

Houston is happy with Dom Davis and decides on the Brick, New Orleans could trade out for someone wanting Bush but that most likely mean they miss out on Leinart (because we take him).

But if Houston don't want Bush they will trade out I would imagine.

yeah there is no way at this point that Bush would fall to us. I dont know that Houston will take him, and I dont think they should, but they are in a position to get a hell of a deal by trading down.

We either take the Brick or hope another team wants him enough to trade with us. Roos can stay at RT and Bell can move to OG. A franchise LT is worth that early of a pick if a guys really looks like a stud.

I agree, if brick is at 3 you take him unless we get a good trade for him. Hopkins is about done so if we can replace him with a potential Ogden or Jones like left tackle then we would be insane to pass that up. Unless we are given a really good deal with picks.

I'm sorry, but the Giants do not need a running back (imo)
i think he meant the jets

i think he meant the jets

actually he said EITHER NY team

How about this Texans take Bush with #1 and then flip him over to us after we take The Brick. Not only do they receive him but we trade Hopkins, Brown, Beckham and Sirmon to the Texans for him. Just Wishful Thinking. They improve their oline immensly get help on d and get a talented rb in brown.

they are in a position to get a hell of a deal by trading down.

then again , this is the Texans savvy business model we're discussing

hell, they should just draft Reggie and trade Dom

(heard an interesting tidbit about Dom)
while at LSU (backing up Toefield), coach wanted to convert him to safety
and now he's a dangerous 2-way threat

but it's like this,..... imagine you had Eddie George on your team (call it '99), he was doing OK but nothing spectacular , and you had an opportunity to draft an LT or an Alexander. (you could also use the Travis Henry / Willis McGahee scenario here) - would you pull the trigger, even though it wasn't a "need" position (but certainly an upgrade)

wait a minut, scratch that - they probably need a QB worse than a RB

we trade Hopkins, Brown, Beckham and Sirmon to the Texans for him. Just Wishful Thinking.

don't forget Schwartz :winker:

then again , this is the Texans savvy business model we're discussing

hell, they should just draft Reggie and trade Dom

(heard an interesting tidbit about Dom)
while at LSU (backing up Toefield), coach wanted to convert him to safety
and now he's a dangerous 2-way threat

but it's like this,..... imagine you had Eddie George on your team (call it '99), he was doing OK but nothing spectacular , and you had an opportunity to draft an LT or an Alexander. (you could also use the Travis Henry / Willis McGahee scenario here) - would you pull the trigger, even though it wasn't a "need" position (but certainly an upgrade)

wait a minut, scratch that - they probably need a QB worse than a RB

Houston has a lot of holes to fill, but RB isnt one of them. Davis is a very capable back who has decent #s behind a terrible line, and he is an excellent receiver too. One player wont even begin to fix the Texans, and there are probably 20 teams who would like Bush so I think they are crazy if they dont trade down and load up on picks. Houston seems to have quality skill position players in Davis, Johnson, and probably Carr if he had protection. If they take Bush they still have a ****ty Oline and Carr is still going to lead the league in getting sacked.

you know, the great thing about all this is that the combines and college days havent even started yet. and theres still a couple of games to finish in college for the year if i remember correctly:cool: :cool:

anything could happen

I'm sorry, but the Giants do not need a running back (imo)

You never know how much longer Tiki can do what he's doing. I don't think Brandon Jacobs was drafted to be his replacement.

On running backs-
I'm not sold on the idea that Chris Brown is some kind of horrible RB. I do think he has issues staying healthy and when his contract is up that he should be allowed to walk away. However, I feel that his main problem is that he is unable to hit a hole because they are not there and when they are they are small and close fast. He's not a bruiser like Henry that is going to run straight ahead. I sense that there is an enormouse amount of dissatisfaction with both backs and as a result there seems to be alot of talk here about drafting at that position. That in my opinion would be a mistake for I feel what is at the heart of the running game issues is the interior line.

The "Brick" seems like a great prospect but I realize it seems hard to commit to that position when you have the #3 overall. That's tough. However, we do need a guy like that. I am of the frame of mind that we need a quarterback very badly. Perhaps whoever owns, say, #12 spot trades with us...and we pick up an extra third...or even 2nd...I don't know what that swap is worth...we can look to get Cutler or Hawk, rest assured that "Brick" will be gone...I really don't know...I do know that whatever Reese does alot of people will be unhappy.

I read somebody's post that mentioned a Phillip Rivers deal. That is very interesting to me but I've recently heard that Brees is hurt to some extent and that the Chargers are chilling out with the trade talk. Rumor mill.

You never know how much longer Tiki can do what he's doing. I don't think Brandon Jacobs was drafted to be his replacement.

Let me explain a little more -- Jersey B, the Jets' Curtis Martin held the NFL rushing title after last year. Now he's injured and RB is a priority for them, right after QB. Drafting Tiki's replacement now while he's just had his best season ever is just smart. He's already 30. Maybe he'll be a 34-year-old running back with great production. You never know. But odds are against it...so I put the Giants in that category, too.

The #3 pick certainly isnt too high of a pick to take a franchise left takle. IF, and IF, D'Brickashaw is the "Orlando Pace" or "Jon Ogden" type of left takle, the 3rd pick is worth taking him 10 fold. I dont know if he is, but with the combine and evalutions, the Titans should be able to get a good feel. Getting him also allows the Titans to clear more cap room by cutting Hopkins. At some point the Titans are going to have to beat the Colts if they want to get back to their winning ways. That means shutting down or at least slowing down Dwight Freeney, I think The Brick is a good start to doing the that. I dont think Hawk is worth that high of a pick. They can wait and get Hodge in the second round who just had a huge game today in the Outback Bowl. Titans need a Middle Linebacker worse than and OLB IMO.

Well, I hate this idea, but if Houston wants to trade down and still have a good shot at Ferguson, then the best trading partner is -- us. We give them our first and a third (that we get from trading Volek or Henry, second if we get that for one of those guys, even; also, throw in an OT like Loper if necessary) and we get Bush, they get Brick before anyone else can select him - guaranteed.


The best trading partner is easily the Jets, who are in dire need of a rb, unlike us.

i think we need oline, a solid oline is where a team begins in my opinion, roos was a nice start i think he did ok this year, stewart, loper and amano. they will provide nice depth, in my opinion we still need more tackles and guards not to metion a starting centre with hartwig leaving

The best trading partner is easily the Jets, who are in dire need of a rb, unlike us.

I've already said just that in a few other threads. We're the best trading partner for Houston. The Jets are the best trading partner for US.

The best trading partner is easily the Jets, who are in dire need of a rb, unlike us.

i disagree, I think we need to re-evaluate our RB position

Chris Brown disappointed the hell out of me this year
Last year he had 100yards prior to halftime in several games
this year he didn't have a single 100 yard game

blame it on Chow's scheme if you'd like......
but that's just weird

Jeff Fisher offenses REQUIRE successful running games


now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying trade up to #1 and take Bush
but if he falls to #3, dont even think about it

Agreed. It's been two years and we're still not settled at running back. Bush if he fell to #3 would be awesome. I haven't ruled DeAngelo Williams out at #3, regardless of whether or not people say it's too high for him. He's the only RB who has proven he can carry the load mostly by himself for years at a time. Maroney split time last year with Barber, and Bush and White have split time through this year.

Thought: What if Bush changes his mind and returns to USC for another year?

Thought: What if Bush changes his mind and returns to USC for another year?

I'd still consider LenDale White
he may be better suited to JEff's "POWER" running game

Ya know, Carr is due something like an $8 million roster bonus this year. Wonder if the Texans might choose a QB instead.

I'd still consider LenDale White
he may be better suited to JEff's "POWER" running game

Are you still talking about if he lasts until round two, or would you consider him in round one?

I think we will take hawk at #3 he's a beast. I really dont see anyone really wanting to trade with us except the jets to either grab young if he comes out or deangelo or lawrence marouny or the packers to take hawk.

I hope hawk comes to tennessee next year. I think that would fix alot of our problems especially our running defence problems. I think mcnair will come back and we will sign a vet wide out. We could draft Lendal in the second. I think he would fit our old eddie george straight up running offence and go back to our old winning ways. I say we release williams and vinny fuller starts there next year along next to lamont. We sign KVB to a long term deal and our d-line will be set. We could possibly pick up a lt or rt in the free agency and we would go back to our winning ways.

Are you still talking about if he lasts until round two, or would you consider him in round one?

ya know what,... it would have to be LATER in the round

like if we woulda traded with San Diego

I'm real curious as to see where White ends up

I've seen him projected to Pittsburgh

Ya know, Carr is due something like an $8 million roster bonus this year. Wonder if the Texans might choose a QB instead.

They said they will keep him.

I think we will take hawk at #3 he's a beast. I really dont see anyone really wanting to trade with us except the jets to either grab young if he comes out or deangelo or lawrence marouny or the packers to take hawk.

I hope hawk comes to tennessee next year. I think that would fix alot of our problems especially our running defence problems. I think mcnair will come back and we will sign a vet wide out. We could draft Lendal in the second. I think he would fit our old eddie george straight up running offence and go back to our old winning ways. I say we release williams and vinny fuller starts there next year along next to lamont. We sign KVB to a long term deal and our d-line will be set. We could possibly pick up a lt or rt in the free agency and we would go back to our winning ways.


It will take more than Hawk to fix our problems on D, hell if Jimmy boy is still here he would suck the testosterone right out of Hawk anyways.

It will take more than Hawk to fix our problems on D, hell if Jimmy boy is still here he would suck the testosterone right out of Hawk anyways.

that could be true

honestly, I don't think LB is our biggest weakness on D

there's some good talent available in this draft at LB

everybody talked about DJ like they are AJ and how'd that turn out

What's a bigger weakness on D? Safety I'm guessing? Maybe true, but there's no Shawn Taylor or Roy Williams this year.

Hawk is DJ with more toughness.

I've already said just that in a few other threads. We're the best trading partner for Houston. The Jets are the best trading partner for US.

of course there the best trading partner, there one spot behind the titans.:winker:

of course there the best trading partner, there one spot behind the titans.:winker:


If Bush were to Fall to us at #3, I wonder if we could trade down with the Jets allowing them to take Bush, Make them take Volek off our hands for a total of their second this year and a conditional 2/3 Next year... Leaving us wide open for 'Brick or Hawk at #4 and giving us two 2nd's this year to take which ever we don't take at 4 plus a QB/S!!!

I know sounds a little Madden esq, but roll it around, let it sink in... and get back at me.... er I mean to me. :))

Makes good sense for both teams... plus they could throw in... I'll stop there.

I'd rather Bush.

What's a bigger weakness on D? Safety I'm guessing? Maybe true, but there's no Shawn Taylor or Roy Williams this year.

Hawk is DJ with more toughness.

RW31? He sucks. He's just a guy who ruins players career with his terrible tackling. There is a reason he's done so many horse collar tackles, and it isn't because he was in front of the guy in position.

My point was there probably isn't a S that will get drafted high like he was (#8).

I'd take him over anything we've got (he doesn't suck ;) ).

I'd rather Bobby Myers then Horse Collar Williams.