I've seen it used around here a lot. I can't tell if it is used in jest or what the deal with it is. I am finding some take offense to it and want it ranked in there with other name-calling terms. I tend to agree.

Someone who uses it please share a bit on what it's all about.

IMHO, accusing someone of being a hater means that they have some strong dislike of that player, and will nitpick that person and attack anything they can, and if they have nothing, they'll make something up. Generally, someone I thought was "hating" on someone has less credibility because their opinion gets in the way of their using objective fact in discussion. I'd say a hater usually ignore arguments against his position, because he's "right'. I might add more later, think that's generally it...

IMHO, accusing someone of being a hater means that they have some strong dislike of that player, and will nitpick that person and attack anything they can, and if they have nothing, they'll make something up. Generally, someone I thought was "hating" on someone has less credibility because their opinion gets in the way of their using objective fact in discussion. I'd say a hater usually ignore arguments against his position, because he's "right'. I might add more later, think that's generally it...
Pretty good definition. A hater is anyone who consistantly hates on someone or something.
Dont hate, appreciate:)

Hater is a relatively new word to the slang vocabulary. I dont remember hearing it consistently before I started HS which was back in 2001.

A hater is someone who finds problems with somone or a thing, for either 1) silly or absurd reasons 2) becomes fixated on disling something or 3) is spiteful and comes off as bitter about something.

A hater is too often confused with simple dislike. Hating is usually pretty extreme and almost always illogical.

Example: Most of the Manning bashing, especially recently.

i.e. I am a Peyton Manning hater and am very proud of it.
Kami might say I need to get the hate out of my eyes...

This does not offend me because because I know at times my irrational hatred of Manning is just that...irrational. I do not feel that this is an offensive term. There is a word for someone who calls someone "hater" and that is "annoying". That's all it is. If a post is annoying I believe the general advice is to just disregard. I haven't really seen a bunch of people saying "hater this" and "hater that"...

If you make hater a swear what's next? Homer?

I'd rather stick to the universally offensive system...

A hater is someone who finds problems with somone or a thing, for either 1) silly or absurd reasons 2) becomes fixated on disling something or 3) is spiteful and comes off as bitter about something.

A hater is too often confused with simple dislike. Hating is usually pretty extreme and almost always illogical.

Example: Most of the Manning bashing, especially recently.
The Manning bashing is logical, he's a Colt, he's a whinner, he's a pansy, nuff said. Its not hatin, its smack talkin:winker:

Hating is not a bad word. It's evolved over the past few years from a simple adjective into a noun, pronoun, adverb and action verb. Let me give you some examples.

If someone says something about someone that you like, i.e., someone says something about Lamont Thompson, Tank Williams or Keith Bulluck, I'll call them a "hater".

If I'm wearing my hair in a new hairstyle, some jeans or a shirt that one of my girls doesn't like and she makes a negative comment, I'll call her a hater. Or say, "Don't hate."

One of my friends dated a guy for a while and things didn't turn out too well and he started things up back up with his baby's Mama. My girl was hanging out with me and my boyfriend one night and we started talking about her ex-boyfriend and his baby Mama. My boyfriend said, "Ya'll quit hating."

One of my best friends just closed on a great condo. Our little group of friends all went over to her place to check it out. As I walked in her front door I gave her a hug and said, "Ohhh girl, I am SO hating on you. This place is great!"

So, hating isn't a bad word and shouldn't be counted among name-calling words.

TitanJeff, stop hating on "hating":ha:

Oh TitanJeff, I LOVE you! Thanks for hooking me up!

Oh TitanJeff, I LOVE you! Thanks for hooking me up!
You're welcome. Makes me wanna cookie.

Just so I'm 100% here. No one takes it personally being called a "hater"?

I didn't say hating is bad. Everyone hates on something...

I hates on hating.

You're welcome. Makes me wanna cookie.

Just so I'm 100% here. No one takes it personally being called a "hater"?


Depends on the person. Some people resent being called on there attitudes. Some people, like me, accept it for what it is. Just a natural inclination for most peoples. :grrr:

I think for football forum usage hating or being a hater or whatever is what Mr E. brings when he's talking about his favorite quarterback. All this hanging out at the mall and chewing bubble gum stuff is taking hater way out of what it needs to be or it is just played out and annoying.

I think being a hater is something you pretty much own up to.
Calling somebody a hater when it's just because you can not think of anything valid just gets on peoples nerves. That's the hater defense. It doesn't make them mad. I don't think I've ever encountered a poster that was upset at it. It's really just kinda pretty much, I'm trying to be a good team mate here, :ha:
Above all the "hater defense" is the worst argument ever.
Just ask this guy...
http://www.progets.com/simpsons/pics/The%20comic%20book%20guy%20with%20his%20laptop.gif

actual gotitans.com user

For real though, hating on a player is pretty much just riding them and trash talking their game without being able to support a valid argument, at least for long. I suppose there needs to be some gray term for homer that is to the effect of spoonfed love for a player despite pretty much whatever.

For instance take Reynaldo Hill...if he were to say, I don't know, hijack an airplane... odds are the only thing Gunny is going to worry about is whether he was still going to start...what do you call that? Devoted? Not very good...

Jock rider? :lol3: That's great...so if somebody just blurts...hater!
Can you respond and be like: What, jock rider?

Not that I would but it seems fair...
Besides, anybody crying "hater" ought to be able to take jock rider?

Surly.

http://www.dvdweb.co.uk/reviewsgfx/air05.jpg

...and quit calling me Shirley!!!

:)) .

For instance take Reynaldo Hill...if he were to say, I don't know, hijack an airplane... odds are the only thing Gunny is going to worry about is whether he was still going to start...what do you call that? Devoted? Not very good...

Jock rider? :lol3: That's great...so if somebody just blurts...hater!
Can you respond and be like: What, jock rider?

Not that I would but it seems fair...
Besides, anybody crying "hater" ought to be able to take jock rider?

Surly.

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Hey BiPolar, I couldn't resist this one. I am not disputing or agreeing with anything, just attempting more WU dry humor: OK, here goes:

Since I used to change Andre's diapers, the description above would make me the all time kingJock Changer:rotfl: :cool2:

http://www.patsfans.com/messageboard/images/smilies/cool01.gif

you cant ban the term hater, what else will elfinmagic53 have to say?

It's a strong word that should only be applied to posts that are over the top or irrational. I was called a mcnair hater and basher for simply rating him third among nfl QBs instead of first. I was accused of being an andre woolfolk hater simply because i suggested he wasn't a great draft pick. Well everyone knows that.

If it is the truth it is not hate. If it is rational it can't really be hate. So i think it is a term that should not be used very often.

At the same time we wouldn't want to reduce the spitited debate that exists on these boards. This is the best titans forum on the net for a reason and spirited banter, bustings balls as a new yorker might put it is a part of sports debate.

At the same time we wouldn't want to reduce the spitited debate that exists on these boards. This is the best titans forum on the net for a reason and spirited banter, bustings balls as a new yorker might put it is a part of sports debate.
I agree. But I attempt to dance a fine line between spirited debating and personal insults in this forum. An articulate person can debate most anything without insulting the person they are debating. To resort to insult usually means one lacks the ammo to back their opinion on a subject and trys to compensate for that by focusing on the person they are debating.

I don't see the need for one poster to call another a "hater" in the context of what has been explained to me here and am considering adding it to what is defined as a personal insult or name-calling.

I agree, ban the use of it simply because it will force a person to debate instead of having a quick response to a post they didn't like. IMO it is overly strong to call someone a "hater" just because they have an objective opinion even though another might not agree with them.

To resort to insult usually means one lacks the ammo to back their opinion on a subject and trys to compensate for that by focusing on the person they are debating.
I agree, ban the use of it simply because it will force a person to debate instead of having a quick response to a post they didn't like. IMO it is overly strong to call someone a "hater" just because they have an objective opinion even though another might not agree with them.Exactly.

Brian: "Andre Woolfolk can't cover NFL receivers"
WoolfolksUncle: "You're just a hater"
Brian: "Umm, ok"

Just so I'm 100% here. No one takes it personally being called a "hater"?

that's probably true 90% of the time

it's definition isn't as harsh as it appears to sound

originaly coined as a "Player Hater" (in this point "player" describing a pimp-wannabe) it describes how a person is envious or jealous of another 'pimp' or 'playa' who "plays" the 'circuit' (clubs) for 'digits' (phone numbers) or other
it's a slang phrase created by a hip-hop nation

"Hating" on Peyton just means that people are disgusted or disappointed in him. also, hating on is a little different than hating

if that clears it up any

I vote to ban it.

"Hating" on Peyton just means that people are disgusted or disappointed in him. also, hating on is a little different than hating
I agree and can see the difference.

I vote to ban it.
only if you also ban other 'hip-hop' slangs like "beasting" ,et al.

I wouldn't mind being called a "beast". :brow:

I think it would be borderline silly and overlysensitive to ban the word "hater". If it really is that offensive or something, then uh...:sad2:


"Beasting" ain't no hip hop language. That's just some word Critical uses a lot. Cats don't say "beasting" on the east coast.

I think it would be borderline silly and overlysensitive to ban the word "hater". If it really is that offensive or something, then uh...:sad2:
agreed.

I think it may come down to a judgement call by looking at the rest of message in context. Personally, I don't care for the term but that is the old in me talking.

you cant ban the term hater, what else will elfinmagic53 have to say?

There's always "roo breath":brow:

Yeah, but if you ban hater, we'll always come up with another hip hop slang term! Next thing you know, Jeff'll be trying to ban aquafina!

Exactly.

Brian: "Andre Woolfolk can't cover NFL receivers"
WoolfolksUncle: "You're just a hater"
Brian: "Umm, ok"

This is opposite meaning here people don't be fooled.... Brian is the King Hater and the perfect example of what a Hater is.... He Hates on Andre more than the world hated on He Hate Me when he was in the XFL......
TRUTH

THE ONE THING HATERS USUALLY LACK!!!!!!

TRUTH

http://thejokepost.com/thejokepost/clean-pictures/022002/stupid_beaver.JPG

Jeff, the term is also used in jest. for example, me and Kam on the chat room at game time:

K: Twan just scored a third TD!
me: It's a fluke...he won't do that again this year
K: Hater!

Obviously, he doesn't mean it literally.

Also, the word is spelled correctly, but mispronounced: It's "ha-in' " (silent T), as in "Done be ha-in!" (long O in "done"...."don't be hating", both with silent Ts.)


The only time that it becomes truly objectionable is when used in the political context, which is against TOS here:
#1: "I object to GW's foreign policy"
#2: "You hate America!"

I don't see it as being a term that should be bannable in the context of a sports forum. In the coloquial context, "Don't be hatin" is equivilent to "be nice!". Calling someone a "hater" is the polar opposite of calling someone a "homer", which leads down the slippery slope of "homer" being used as an objectionable term.

This is opposite meaning here people don't be fooled.... Brian is the King Hater and the perfect example of what a Hater is.... He Hates on Andre more than the world hated on He Hate Me when he was in the XFL......
TRUTH

THE ONE THING HATERS USUALLY LACK!!!!!!
In this context, I think it clearly is wrong.

Sorry, folks. If it is used like this, it'll be moderated in the future.

Gotcha Jeff.

Just for my two cents, I don't take it personally either. While I think it's an overused term, and often used as an excuse by some, it's a valid response in some situations, and is a familiar expression to most. I think people can get annoyed when it's misapplied, but sometimes it's an accurate term.

I had a long paragraph with examples of my opinions of some haters on here, but figured that would probably bother people more than be a positive example. I will say I don't think I'm a "hater" on LT, just because I don't think he showed enough during the season to be resigned.

I don't see it as being a term that should be bannable in the context of a sports forum. In the coloquial context, "Don't be hatin" is equivilent to "be nice!". Calling someone a "hater" is the polar opposite of calling someone a "homer", which leads down the slippery slope of "homer" being used as an objectionable term.

:stupid:

TRUTH

:brow:

Just for my two cents, I don't take it personally either. While I think it's an overused term, and often used as an excuse by some, it's a valid response in some situations, and is a familiar expression to most.
I'm sure a lot of negative, personal comments are not taken personally by all and are a valid response in certain situations. But I've had some tell me they are offended by its use. That's why it might be best to just look at it in the context used.

I'm sure a lot of negative, personal comments are not taken personally by all and are a valid response in certain situations. But I've had some tell me they are offended by its use. That's why it might be best to just look at it in the context used.
Agreed. It is all in the context.
IMO, the replies that start out "That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard" or "Have you ever watched a football game" is more tacky than "hater". But I do understand that on it's own, the word sounds worse.

But I've had some tell me they are offended by its use.


Oh, c'mon, Jeff! Some people are offended by everything from Mozart to mistletoe, and cannot comprehend the fact that there is no such thing as a right to be unoffended. If you're getting PMs to that effect, then you need to let them know that nobody is going to get preferential treatment just because they're a pansy.


there went another 10%....

But I've had some tell me they are offended by its use.
in the great words of Stacy Keach "Wussy!"

How can you be offened by someone calling you a "hater"?



Sensitive thugs, you all need hugs...:ha:

Oh, c'mon, Jeff! Some people are offended by everything from Mozart to mistletoe

Mozart? MOZART.

How offensive. BAN BAN BAN!!!

I am offended.:brow:

I don't think being called a hater is such a big deal. And after thinking about it for a minute I am sure I am guilty of using the term on this board.

IMO, Hater is just a harmless slang term. Someone who is trying insult another person could be more insulting by using another word. My point I guess is that hater is not much of an insult. I don't care if you ban it or not I guess. It just seems a little too P.C.

It seems to be a generational problem here, older posters don't understand the word and take offense to it. I would be interested in hearing from some of the younger posters we have here on this. For instance, is the term censored as improper speech in the schools? Or is it permissable to say "hater" at school. I would think if it was truly very offensive to the average person that it would be against the rules to use at school.

Oh, c'mon, Jeff! Some people are offended by everything from Mozart to mistletoe, and cannot comprehend the fact that there is no such thing as a right to be unoffended. If you're getting PMs to that effect, then you need to let them know that nobody is going to get preferential treatment just because they're a pansy.


there went another 10%....
I could care less whether or not someone is offended by a post. Anytime you have differing opinions, that will happen. What I care about is everyone feeling that they can come to this forum and post without being personally insulted. I find use of the word "hater" to be insulting if used in a certain context.

There's a difference.

I could care less whether or not someone is offended by a post. Anytime you have differing opinions, that will happen. What I care about is everyone feeling that they can come to this forum and post without being personally insulted. I find use of the word "hater" to be insulting if used in a certain context. There's a difference.Taking the easy way out of a good debate by using the term "hater" is frustrating. Could it be considered insulting? Maybe.

It's kinda like raising the white flag and then firing off another round. In many cases, it's the losers last stand.

:flush:

In this context, I think it clearly is wrong.

Sorry, folks. If it is used like this, it'll be moderated in the future.

Interesting I was used as an example, but when my example came, the moderation key opened up. Things are not secret on here. All normal GoTitans posters are aware of spats and pitted battles between certain entities on this board and this is another example of differentiallity being shown. I simple ignored and enjoyed what I was reading on this post as humorous. BiPolar followed with the perfect picture to back that up and hummmm, my post was wrong. Maybe something is wrong with me, maybe I just don't get it, because my post was no more direct than B's post. Maybe I won't get in trouble for using just his first initial.... hmmmmm.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/lazydervish/einstien-questions.jpg

All this hater stuff is just a bunch of hooey...
After all this hater awareness talk I'm sure one will take care not to accidentally offend and choose their words wiser and be a little more clever with retort.

#1 carnal sin
SPELLING POLICE

#2 carnal sin
TRUSTING POLAR:winker:

#3 veinal sin
crying hater

#4 veinal sin
accusing homers of being spoonfed:homer2:

#5 veinal sin
spoonfeeding a homer.:homer:

#6 veinal sin
root against your team for draft position
misc...
#7 Missing your Titans MNF appearence
(that one hasn't been a problem)

#8 Not doing it because Kimberly said SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

#9 Super hard-core relentless balls out hating on McNair...

#10 *Smack a troll pronfanely.

I mean give it a rest...


*that's a biggie

Did you mean cardinal and venial sin? Did I just commit one? :))

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*that's a biggie


:ha: :ha: :ha: @ your sig...:ha:

Did you mean cardinal and venial sin? Did I just commit one? :))
HATER!:ha: :lol3::))