Not trying to be a smart***** or anything, but why the love affair with him? I keep hearing from all the football "experts" that Leinart is the way to go, but everyone in hear is on the Vince Young bandwagon. I think they will both be good, but for some reason I'm thinking Leinart might be the smart move. Pocket passers win Superbowls.

Not all of us are Young bandwagoneers, just the more vocal ones.
Young had a good year winning a National Title, vs Leinarts winning of 2 National Titles.
Let's not forget Leinarts Heisman.
Leinart was 'our guy' for a long time until the Trojans lost the Rose Bowl. Then, overnight, a bunch changed over to Young. Prior to his TEAM winning the Rose Bowl, not much was mentioned here on this board about Young.
I think Young is a project, probably 2 years. Leinart could be ready sooner. I think Leinart is better overall than Young.
We'll all know who is better, but not for atleast 2-3 years down the road. I wouldn't be surprised to see both Leinart and Young outdone by some guy picked up undrafted from some little unknown college.

Not all of us are Young bandwagoneers, just the more vocal ones.
Young had a good year winning a National Title, vs Leinarts winning of 2 National Titles.
Let's not forget Leinarts Heisman.
Leinart was 'our guy' for a long time until the Trojans lost the Rose Bowl. Then, overnight, a bunch changed over to Young. Prior to his TEAM winning the Rose Bowl, not much was mentioned here on this board about Young.
I think Young is a project, probably 2 years. Leinart could be ready sooner. I think Leinart is better overall than Young.
We'll all know who is better, but not for atleast 2-3 years down the road. I wouldn't be surprised to see both Leinart and Young outdone by some guy picked up undrafted from some little unknown college.

Leinart wasnt our guy until the saints signed Brees, and even now Im not sure he is our guy. I think they both have question marks and it depends on this Mcnair situation. If Mcnair is back I would like to see us go Young since we can allow him to sit a couple of years. If Mcnair isnt back, then I think we almost have to take Leinart since he will be ready to play a lot sooner than Vince. But overall, I think Vince is going to be the better of the 2 down the road.

I would rather take Leinart than Young personally. But just you wait, as soon as we pick Matt, you'll hear how great Young is and we chose the wrong quaterback from every media outlet in the world. That's what the new sports talk ravaged world has brought us.

I would rather take Leinart than Young personally. But just you wait, as soon as we pick Matt, you'll hear how great Young is and we chose the wrong quaterback from every media outlet in the world. That's what the new sports talk ravaged world has brought us.

well if there is a way to screw up this draft the titans would do it and the way to do that is to take leinart, but to someone above most of us were fans of vince young before the rose bowl...

I hope we do get Young, but I have to say, I'm glad Leinart sounded so positive after yesterday's visit. I will be far less concerned now if we get him. Still disappointed, but I'm sure it wouldn't take long to get over it. There are a lot of positives to both those guys.

Now don't let me get started on Cutler. J/K, but I do get the sense that Cutler is a notch below. I think he'll be solid, but all the Favre comparisons lead me to believe there'll come a season when he's throwing mad picks per season as well. I think Vince and Matt have cooler heads than Jay. That's what it comes down to there for me.


And remember, fitantitans, Young wasn't an option until after the Rose Bowl. He hadn't declared yet for the draft.

And remember, fitantitans, Young wasn't an option until after the Rose Bowl. He hadn't declared yet for the draft.

You beat me to it.
Also, lots of folks had limited exposure to young prior to the Rosebowl, or discounted it to the fact they were playing a weak Big 12 team.

I think YOUNG gets bashed more than he recieves love. Bottom Line no-one knows how any player is gonna turn out. No One can question the fact that YOUNG has a world of potential though (I think he gets bashed because, his upside appears to good to be true.)

And the notion that Lienart will be ready, before Vince, remains to be seen, the last time I saw Matt play, he ended up putting three passes in the Longhorns Players hands. Its popular to rate Vince based on what he will not be able to do against NFL D's. And what Matt did in the Rosebowl, would have ended up being 3 picks, instead of just 1.

I would rather take Leinart than Young personally. But just you wait, as soon as we pick Matt, you'll hear how great Young is and we chose the wrong quaterback from every media outlet in the world. .

that'll happen throughout their careers

screw both leinart and young, draft cutler.

You beat me to it.
Also, lots of folks had limited exposure to young prior to the Rosebowl, or discounted it to the fact they were playing a weak Big 12 team.

I think YOUNG gets bashed more than he recieves love. Bottom Line no-one knows how any player is gonna turn out. No One can question the fact that YOUNG has a world of potential though (I think he gets bashed because, his upside appears to good to be true.)

And the notion that Lienart will be ready, before Vince, remains to be seen, the last time I saw Matt play, he ended up putting three passes in the Longhorns Players hands. Its popular to rate Vince based on what he will not be able to do against NFL D's. And what Matt did in the Rosebowl, would have ended up being 3 picks, instead of just 1.


I think Vince will end up being better, but no way Vince is better prepared to play this season. Matt is extremely intelligent with extremely good mechanics and fundamentals, the only real questions are his arm strength, lack of mobility, and durability. Vince has too much work to do on his mechanics, and learning a pro style offense, learning when to run and when not to run, etc to be ahead of Leinart at this point and time. But, QBs arent drafted as a quick fix, and in 3-4 years I dont think Leinart will be in the same league as Young.

screw both leinart and young, draft cutler.

:flush: = Titans with Cutler

lol i agree ddc and titans with leinart =:flush: :flush: :wall:
but when we get vince young everyone is going to be having a party in tennessee :jump:

And remember, fitantitans, Young wasn't an option until after the Rose Bowl. He hadn't declared yet for the draft. To be truthful, Vince himself didn't think he would make himself available until after the Rose Bowl. He, and his agent, saw his stock raise and decided to make the move. In his shoes, I think I would have stayed and tried for the Heisman.
Leinart did make mistakes in the Rose Bowl, but 2 National Championships out of 3 and a Heisman isn't too shabby! These guys don't come around every year.

Either one will give Titans fans reason to be giddy about the future. Just keep in mind if you are a big proponent of one over the other that you're gonna be rooting for one of these guys for a long time, defending their play to opposing fans, wearing their jersey, or at least sitting in a stadium surrounded by others wearing their jersey, etc.
Whoever the pick is, the fans will get behind him or bandwagon jump somewhere else.

I am probably one of the most Vocal Vince Young fans here and have been ever since I began to see him play in his somphmore year in college. Here is my thinking. We cut our losses with McNair, let Volek play this year and get his stats up for trade bait, because he has two years left on his contract and we could trade him for a draft pick with one year remaing, which is the ideal situation. And then we let Young come in and take over.

Also I have no problem with Leinart if he were to become a Titan I would support him just as I would Young. But then root for whatever team Young would end up in also (Hopefully Arizona).

but when we get vince young everyone is going to be having a party in tennessee


yep, it will be a party





















a crying party:cry: :cuss:

yep, it will be a party


a crying party:cry: :cuss:

Yeah a solo crying party :ha:

I am probably one of the most Vocal Vince Young fans here and have been ever since I began to see him play in his somphmore year in college. Here is my thinking. We cut our losses with McNair, let Volek play this year and get his stats up for trade bait, because he has two years left on his contract and we could trade him for a draft pick with one year remaing, which is the ideal situation. And then we let Young come in and take over.

Also I have no problem with Leinart if he were to become a Titan I would support him just as I would Young. But then root for whatever team Young would end up in also (Hopefully Arizona).
im the exact same way man ive been vocal about how much i like vince since i got here, and i will be a supporter of him wherever he goes, but not so much the arizona part of it

Here's a question about Leinart.....why do people doubt him because he was on a loaded team? Now given the fact I know Leinart's no Palmer, but wasn't Palmer's team loaded as well?

Cutler is more like Palmer in arm strength and athleticism than Leinart. The question is can Leinart make up for what he lacks in arm strength with good decision making and accuracy. Is Leinart another Danny Wuerffel? Remember Wuerffel was awesome in college leading Florida to an unbelievable 4 SEC titles, a National Championship and he won a Heisman.

I will say this about ML from what I heard about his nighttime chalkboard session - it sounds like he has a coaches brain when it comes to Xs and Os. He'll probably have Manning's respect. Bet he tries to hit on him.

"You should come over. Oh, and...bring your chalk."

Here's a question about Leinart.....why do people doubt him because he was on a loaded team? Now given the fact I know Leinart's no Palmer, but wasn't Palmer's team loaded as well?


I question whether his legs hold up for very long. I also wonder if he thinks he can get by on 80-90% effort given his brain for the game.

I like Young's dedication and good attitude a bit better. I'll rank them pretty evenly on leadership qualities. I do think Young can carry the team on his back like Steve did for a while, and I don't think Leinart can do that. In the end, I hope that is what distinguishes them for us.

Forget this next year crap with Leinart. The franchise QB game is a marathon, not a foot race.

I question whether his legs hold up for very long. I also wonder if he thinks he can get by on 80-90% effort given his brain for the game.

I like Young's dedication and good attitude a bit better. I'll rank them pretty evenly on leadership qualities. I do think Young can carry the team on his back like Steve did for a while, and I don't think Leinart can do that. In the end, I hope that is what distinguishes them for us.

Forget this next year crap with Leinart. The franchise QB game is a marathon, not a foot race.
u are correct, i think that young works a lot harder than leinart and shows much better leadership qualities

u are correct, i think that young works a lot harder than leinart and shows much better leadership qualities

Also...he doesn't make excuses and point the finger when he loses...

Here's a question about Leinart.....why do people doubt him because he was on a loaded team? Now given the fact I know Leinart's no Palmer, but wasn't Palmer's team loaded as well?

QUICK!

name the starting RB and WR on Carson's Trojan team


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I can't do it

the answer is no
Matt Leinart isn't even in the same ballpark as Carson - direct rom Chow himself. he may do a few things well, but he had loads more help. he will need to be on a talented team to excell at the NFL level - imo

Mike Williams and Keary Colbert were the WRs the year he won the Heisman.
McCullough and Fargus were the leading RBs.

I would say Palmer's WRs were the best pair in the country.

speaking of palmer how is he doing now, is he still injured?

Mike Williams and Keary Colbert were the WRs the year he won the Heisman.
McCullough and Fargus were the leading RBs.

I would say Palmer's WRs were the best pair in the country.

Given, he didn't have a RB like Leinart's, though he did have the WR's to help his numbers.

speaking of palmer how is he doing now, is he still injured?
Torn ACL(maybe MCL too) and he wont be ready to play until at least September

wow that really sucks, his legs are going to be so weak when he comes back unless hes on cruches the unhurt one will be beastly and the other one will be small as hell haha that would be funny to see