View Full Version : Broncos Trade First Round Pick


Titantonic
04-19-2006, 02:00 PM
Traded the 22nd pick to 49ers for their second rounder (37) and third rounder (68).

nigel
04-19-2006, 02:19 PM
Makes you wonder if the 49ers want to move up. They could concievably move up to #2 with that ammunition (6 & 22)

dman050586
04-19-2006, 02:41 PM
i was thinking maybe they would trade with us? but y would the move up who could the b targeting? A.J hawk?

Troupe4Prez
04-19-2006, 02:43 PM
They are probably going to compete with the Jets to move up to the number two spot since they are the only other team with two first round selections. Maybe they are convinced that the player they want would be gone by their selection???

nigel
04-19-2006, 02:47 PM
i was thinking maybe they would trade with us? but y would the move up who could the b targeting? A.J hawk?

You could stay at 6 and get Hawk. I'd think they have to be making a move either for Mario Williams, or Bush if the Texans dont take him.

Soxcat
04-19-2006, 03:06 PM
We can only hope they trade with NO. No way they are going QB this year.
I would let them have our #3 for their two firsts.

Titans2008
04-19-2006, 03:22 PM
This seems like a dumb move for a franchise who has been full of dumb moves lately. I don't see any way the 49ers can get more than 3 wins with their current roster. =(

Smash
04-19-2006, 03:47 PM
49'ers has a lot of needs and needs quality players. They had 2 third rounders, so it's not that big a deal to loose one.

I don't think they'll trade up, down is more likely to get som more first day picks.

GoTitans3801
04-19-2006, 05:13 PM
I don't think it's that bad a move. It's quite possible that they would use the 22nd pick on a RB that they like. It's a position of need, and they can get a good one there. Then they can still do whatever they want with #6. They get two really solid starters, which would help them significantly. They could also pick a WR with that pick for the same reasons.

GoTitans3801
04-19-2006, 05:13 PM
Then again, the 49ers do some stupid things, maybe they will package it up for just one player, and then remain in the bottom of the league again.

Titans2008
04-19-2006, 05:18 PM
If they're targeting a certain player at 22, that is a little premature. If they want to get more picks, why give away a 3rd ? It seems that they are thinking about trading up to me. If they aren't, then the trade is fine except that they should have just waited until draft day to make sure that player was still there.

GoTitans3801
04-19-2006, 05:57 PM
They could have a few in mind. Hard to predict at this point, but I think it's a decent trade.

DeutschTitan
04-19-2006, 06:58 PM
I believe it's ammo for them to move up. With all this talk about the Texans possibly going with Mario, they could put themselves in a good position at #2. They have the option then of either Reggie or D'Brick. If Reggie is selected by the Texans and they really don't like D'Brick all that much, then they could just sit put with two first rounders. Funny, I thought the Bronco's might try and move up, not down - seeing as how they love Vernon Davis.

Starkiller
04-19-2006, 07:01 PM
I'd guess they just want to take a RB there and not reach for one at #6. Someone should still be available at #22 between DeAngelo Williams, Laurence Maroney, and LenDale White.

TitanKid4Life
04-19-2006, 07:23 PM
49'ers has a lot of needs and needs quality players. They had 2 third rounders, so it's not that big a deal to loose one.

I don't think they'll trade up, down is more likely to get som more first day picks.
they dont need as many quality players as arizona does

Slackmaster
04-19-2006, 08:13 PM
They are not going to trade up.
They have so much of their future budget spent on last year's #1, and they really can't afford to have too many high picks on the roster.

thnom
04-19-2006, 08:21 PM
They need that #22 pick. They have some many holes they need the filler and a #22 pick can fill a gap quicker than 2 smaller ones (the reasoning). 2 first rounders SHOULD give you two starters. They need offensive help and defensive help. The value this year is with cornerbacks late in the first round (with a load of them going) from 15-32. Alex Smith needs help so they'll probably be taking Vernon Davis and I'm thinking Antonio Cromartie.

Gunny
04-19-2006, 08:26 PM
For a team with no talent whatsoever, I can't see them trading the two first rounders to move up to 1,2,3 etc.

I cannot see a team that bad having 2 picks on the first day. However if they get Vernon Davis and a RB (Williams, Maroney etc.) it sets up the core of their offense for many years.

TitanKid4Life
04-20-2006, 01:21 AM
well they got to start somewhere, and offense is always a good place, but defence wins championships

Titantonic
04-20-2006, 01:34 AM
I think the 49ers take Vernon Davis at 6 then grab a starter for their defense at 22. Looks like an outstanding trade for both parties.

Gunny
04-20-2006, 01:59 AM
BPA is what they will get no matter offense or defense.

Titans2008
04-20-2006, 02:58 AM
Gore had a nice average per carry last season. They might be inclined to give a shot this season. Not like they have anything better to do this year.

Soxcat
04-20-2006, 08:12 AM
I think the 49ers take Vernon Davis at 6 then grab a starter for their defense at 22. Looks like an outstanding trade for both parties.

The more I think about it the Broncos were very stupid and the 49ers very smart. The difference in the 22nd pick and the 37th pick is a considerable drop off in talent IMO. Third round picks are such a crap shoot and unless Denver is targeting a postion that is real deep in the draft who knows if a 3rd will yeild a starter for them. If the 49ers stay put they should be able to find two quality starters at two positions of need. Quality is always the way to go IMO. The draft is a crap shoot as it is but the further down you pick the odds get much worse at getting the guys that can really help you.

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 09:13 AM
Hi i was just browsing this site and i saw this topic and thought i would share my niner wisdom with you.
this is a great trade for us, why you ask?
well we(49ers) can still get vernon davis who will help alex smith and we could get a good/great OLB like manny lawson, chad greenway or kamerion wimberly. since the loss of peterson we were hit bad at OLB and one of those 3 mentioned above should help us.

metal957
04-20-2006, 09:16 AM
Now hearing this I believe we could trade with them and then pick up an extra pick and still grab a QB (God willing it be Vince Young). And then later have a shot at DeAngelo Williams later. The only thing we would have to worry about is Oakland trying to jump us into the 5th spot and grabbing Young. This is just pure speculation and a little bit of wishing.

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 09:16 AM
Titans 2008- Gore is a great back by the way and since the niners signed larry allen and have a very healthy jonas jennings and jeremy newberry AND a good yound right side of the O-line both gore and barlow will have productive seasons. i think gore should get a 1000 yards this season

Gunny
04-20-2006, 09:17 AM
No way the 49ers would trade their two pick rounders and there 3rd to us for #3.

They wont go with one pick for the first day of the draft.

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 09:18 AM
i dont think you titans fans are in the position to call the niners talentless. who won more games last season?

Gunny
04-20-2006, 09:18 AM
Titans 2008- Gore is a great back by the way and since the niners signed larry allen and have a very healthy jonas jennings and jeremy newberry AND a good yound left side of the O-line both gore and barlow will have productive seasons. i think gore should get a 1000 yards this season

Hey, that's what we said about Brown and Henry.

My Dad and Brother are 49ers fans btw.

Gunny
04-20-2006, 09:19 AM
i dont think you titans fans are in the position to call the niners talentless. who won more games last season?

who beat you

Gunny
04-20-2006, 09:25 AM
playing the Colts twice and the Steelers made our schedule harder then yours 10-fold.

metal957
04-20-2006, 09:25 AM
:lol2:

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 09:26 AM
the only reason why we did so bad last season is cause we had about a million injuries. 3 good defensive backs rumph,parrish and plummer were all lost to injury.we had to sign guys off the street.

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 09:27 AM
sorry we both won the same amount of games but our schedule was harder thats why the niners pick 6 and the titans pick 3

Gunny
04-20-2006, 09:28 AM
and we didn't?

rumph and plummer were about as useless as a one legged man in an *** kicking contest.

Gunny
04-20-2006, 09:29 AM
sorry we both won the same amount of games but our schedule was harder thats why the niners pick 6 and the titans pick 3

hate to break it too you,but if your schedule was harder you'd be picking higher then us.

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 09:31 AM
ok rumph and plummer arent exactly special but both were good players better then the ones we had to bring in thats for sure.
wait till you see we will do good this year maybe 7 wins. our schedule is quite easy this year

Gunny
04-20-2006, 09:33 AM
you still lost Plummer, Peterson, Carter, Lloyd, Woods (ok that is a gain) and god knows who else.

7 wins - no way.

GoTitans3801
04-20-2006, 10:02 AM
Your schedule is easy, and you're still only calling 7 wins? Ha, niners fan! It's even funnier that I see no way you'll even get that many. You need a QB, a RB, and some WR before you're going anywhere. See also Gunny above for list of lost players.

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 11:02 AM
im being realistic. and its not like you guys can be shooting for much more yourselves.you will have a rookie QB who will most likely struggle to do much next season.We have our QB, we invested so much money in him we have to play him why should we draft say young or cutler and pay him a bundle too?
2 solid RB's aswell. Antonio Bryant is a 1000 yard receiver and the niners are after javon walker too a pro bowl WR.Much improved O-line to top it off.

maximus
04-20-2006, 11:18 AM
iMuch improved O-line to top it off.
Kinda hard to get a worse OL, unless your wanting to immitate the Texans

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 11:21 AM
that was cause of injuries and we had our 2 rookies in there baas and snyder. now the last 2 games against rams and texans the niners o-line looked solid and that was without newberry,jennings and now allen

Gunny
04-20-2006, 11:27 AM
Allen is 175 years old. Guy farts dust.

nomoreschwartz
04-20-2006, 11:52 AM
why should we draft say cutler and pay him a bundle too?
.

I definately think you should do that!! :thumb: In fact trade up as far as possible and take him...:brow:

Titans2008
04-20-2006, 12:04 PM
I'm not a GM by any means, but when you have four wins and then ditch your two best players in the offseason, I think that qualifies as being managed poorly. Injuries or not, the future looks bleak for the next two years or so.

Soxcat
04-20-2006, 12:10 PM
hate to break it too you,but if your schedule was harder you'd be picking higher then us.

Hate to break it to you Gunny but it is the other way around. We are picking ahead of all those teams with the same record as us because we played the easiest schedule. The logic is if you lost the same number of games as another team but had an easier schedule you must stink more.

Soxcat
04-20-2006, 12:16 PM
I'm not a GM by any means, but when you have four wins and then ditch your two best players in the offseason, I think that qualifies as being managed poorly. Injuries or not, the future looks bleak for the next two years or so.

I'm not going to throw any stones at the 49ers because we both live in glass houses. We are about to let our QB for the last decade walk and we could easily be playing a rookie alot next year (the 49er know all about how that can work out). The 49ers have two first round picks and their QB atleast has a year under his belt. Right now I'm not sure which team looks any good on paper.

PhiSlammaJamma
04-20-2006, 12:40 PM
The niners must be kicking themselves in the rear for winning all those games at the end. It really hurt you. This year the Titans stumbled into a great pick. And the Texans literally tanked the season like the T'wolves did last week.

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 12:54 PM
exactly soxcat us and the raiders had the hardest schedule.
slamma jamma yes those 2 wins did hurt the niners in a way but i think for alex smiths confidence he needed to win at least 1 game and now that he beat the texans and the lambs with not much talent around him i think he will do good next season with the more talent on offense we added over the off-season

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 12:57 PM
ya those damn texans are complete idiots about 2 or 3 games came down to like 30 somethin yard field goals and they just happened to 'miss'

ninerfan
04-20-2006, 12:59 PM
allen is still an amazing blocker gunny i read some cowboys forums and half of them cried there eyes out cause allen was gone,especially to the niners

GoTitans3801
04-20-2006, 06:30 PM
If you actually sign Javon, I'll quit mocking your WR corps. But come on, Bryant made 1009 yards strictly because in the last game he broke 100 yards for the first time all year. You lost Lloyd, if you don't sign someone, he won't make 1000 again. As for RB, you don't have 1 decent one, much less 2. While we're not in a position to criticize much, I still think you're being overly optimistic.

smili
04-20-2006, 08:55 PM
On the draft point scale that trade was a dead-even trade.

the 22nd pick value is 780, and the overall 37 + overall 68 = 530 + 250 = 780

Titans2008
04-21-2006, 12:18 AM
exactly soxcat us and the raiders had the hardest schedule.
slamma jamma yes those 2 wins did hurt the niners in a way but i think for alex smiths confidence he needed to win at least 1 game and now that he beat the texans and the lambs with not much talent around him i think he will do good next season with the more talent on offense we added over the off-season

I agree. Under no circumstances do you tank a game. It's always better to have confidence and show improvement than to draft a few spots higher.

ninerfan
04-21-2006, 05:42 AM
titans3801- frank gore had 608 yards on 127 attempts that 4.8 ypc. Would you not call that even decent? and what with an improved and more experienced o-line?
as for bryant he got a 1000 yards cause one game he got over 100 yards? sense?
that means he averaged 60 yards in the other 15 games not bad, not exactly mind blowing i will admit too. i think donte stallworth of the saints has more of a chance of comin to the niners than walker. Denver really wants him.

Gunny
04-21-2006, 06:53 AM
why the hell would you want Stallworth? isnt he a bust?

ninerfan
04-21-2006, 07:06 AM
You could say that gunny but stallworth got 900 yards and 7TD's last year.
The niners could definitely use a guy like that just like the titans needed a david givens kind of guy.Obviously givens would be chosen over stallworth by most teams still with the niners WR's they cant really be picky.

Gunny
04-21-2006, 07:11 AM
i'd rather Arnaz Battle.