Enjoy Lowry, Tulloch, Nande, Mahelona, Finnegan and Toone while you can. Without doubt MbSGWB Schwartz has already ordered their skirts and high heels and inserted "Dancing Backwards for Boys" by Jamie S. as the first section of their playbooks.


Until the Titan D shows some attitude On the field I will not believe they will be any better than the 25+ points they have spotted teams for the last two seasons.

agreed, bring on the excuses homers. I hate Schwartz!

i wish greg williams would come back... man he was awesome..

Gregg Williaqms already has an RSVP to head coach the Redskins once Gibbs leaves. I THink tey paid him head coach money to stay last year

Our secondary will most assuredly improve (as long as Woolfolk and Pac-Man make the necessary adjustments to continue their development). The addition of David Thornton will also help.

Maybe the Titans' plan is to just outscore everybody. Vin-Sanity will lead us to the promised land soon.........

agreed, bring on the excuses homers. I hate Schwartz!The only people making excuses are you and everybody else who thinks we could've gone to the super bowl last year with a bunch of scrubbs on the team or happen to be psychics and know what the players are thinking when their on the field. You guys sound like a bunch of little baby's. I know, "they didn't play with heart" "Schwartz turned Donnie Nickey, and Peter Sirmon into wuss's when both should have been pro-bowlers." Gregg Williams would have made Rocky Boiman take peoples heads off....Reeeally!! :suspect: If the D doesn't show improvement this year (which is impossible) then Schwartz needs to go. Fact is, he has a more experienced team with better players so they'll be much better on D. Take the blinders off people we aren't going to be very good this year as a team so don't expect to go to the super bowl this year either.

you are confusing bad D with terrible D.

25+ points allowed for the last two seasons is not bad, it is terrible.

Which players exactly were so terrible, before Schwartz de-nutted them, that they should not have been in the NFL???????

What exactly are you basing this "more experienced with better players" on?

got 6+ rookies to absorb into the 26 or so defensive roster slots. All 6+ rookies must be pretty gosh darn good to gurantee more experience with better players.

Schwartzs D has gotten worse and more passive every year he has been DC. He should never have been placed into the position in the first place and the next best move the franchise could make would be to fire him. It has been the single best option for the Titans since the mistake was made to have him as DC.

Which players exactly were so terrible, before Schwartz de-nutted them, that they should not have been in the NFL???????
Boiman, Kassell, Sirmon, Ena, Thompson, Fuller, Hill, Sandy, Reynolds, Randall, and Nickey to name a few. You can't count on rookies to win which is why most teams don't. So, when you have two starting at CB on your team your probably not going to be as good as you would with a couple of vets. Shwartz's fault too, right? Our LB's were the slowest in the league. Shwartz's fault again.:hmm: Your arguement doesn't hold any water.

What exactly are you basing this "more experienced with better players" on?
How bout all the rooks being in their second season along with Laboy, Shcobel, Starks, and Odum all in their third year. Their going to be better. PacMan and R Hill are going to get better in their 2nd year (more experience... see where we're going here). We have Chris Hope and Thorton to help along with more speed at LB from draft picks.

got 6+ rookies to absorb into the 26 or so defensive roster slots. All 6+ rookies must be pretty gosh darn good to gurantee more experience with better players.
I guess your missing the point. "Players with more experience" is also refering to the players that we already have that have another year of experience under their belt. Not to mention, the vets we've added in FA also contribute to the depth to. That's why we have more experience and better players. I didn't say we were goin to be great, just better.

Schwartzs D has gotten every year he has been DC. He should never have been placed into the position in the first place and the next best move the franchise could make would be to fire him. It has been the single best option for the Titans since the mistake was made to have him as DC.That may be true, but nothing you've said provides any evidence of that. Apparently you know more than Fisher and Reese. Doubt it, though. If it's so blatenly obvious that he's so bad that even a football novice like you (myself included) can figure it out I would think that those who work in football for a living like coaches, analyst, and all of the other so called experts would recognize this and point it out. I've never heard anyone rip Shwartz other than our own defensive Goo-Roo's right here on gotitans. They like him. As I've said, if we don't improve vastly on D this year than he needs to go. This is the first year in three seasons where we actually should be decsent on D.

Boiman, Kassell, Sirmon, Ena, Thompson, Fuller, Hill, Sandy, Reynolds, Randall, and Nickey to name a few. You can't count on rookies to win which is why most teams don't. So, when you have two starting at CB on your team your probably not going to be as good as you would with a couple of vets. Shwartz's fault too, right? Our LB's were the slowest in the league. Shwartz's fault again.:hmm: Your arguement doesn't hold any water.

The Thompson who just got a multi year contract and a signing bonus is not good enough to be in the NFL, although I tend to agree with that he is a veteran and apparently Dehr Schwartzie must like him cause no matter how terrible he plays he still starts. Boiman was NFL calibar when healthy which was not often enough. Kassell good depth but should not have been starting. Sirmon, pre injury, was a pretty good SLB. Fuller was injured as a rookie and this is year two. Reynolds is good depth at LB probably should not be starting. Sandy, Nickey and Randall probably should not have been on the team I agree. Rookie CBs was at least partly Dehr Schwartzies call and there has been plently of championships - and recent ones - with rookie CBs on the field so playing rookies should not be an excuse for not hitting and giving up game winning drives inside 2:00 at home. Wasn't it Schwartz who was playing those slow LBs - BTW Bulluck might take exception to that label, but I know you were referencing Heartless Sirmon and Kassell. And finally yes I blame the DC for fielding a terrible D consistently and predictably.


How bout all the rooks being in their second season along with Laboy, Shcobel, Starks, and Odum all in their third year. Their going to be better. PacMan and R Hill are going to get better in their 2nd year (more experience... see where we're going here). We have Chris Hope and Thorton to help along with more speed at LB from draft picks.

I understand, I disagree that these players will automatically improve under Dehr Schwartzies guidance - see Lamont Thompson as exibit A for players who have regressed every year he has played for Schwartz. I remember when Thompson was gotten off the waiver wire from Cincy he ran to the ball and hit something when he got there, now he is just a punching bag for WRs and RBs.

I guess your missing the point. "Players with more experience" is also refering to the players that we already have that have another year of experience under their belt. Not to mention, the vets we've added in FA also contribute to the depth to. That's why we have more experience and better players. I didn't say we were goin to be great, just better.

You are correct I should have titled the thread enjoy these 8 players while you can.


That may be true, but nothing you've said provides any evidence of that. Apparently you know more than Fisher and Reese. Doubt it, though. If it's so blatenly obvious that he's so bad that even a football novice like you (myself included) can figure it out I would think that those who work in football for a living like coaches, analyst, and all of the other so called experts would recognize this and point it out. I've never heard anyone rip Shwartz other than our own defensive Goo-Roo's right here on gotitans. They like him. As I've said, if we don't improve vastly on D this year than he needs to go. This is the first year in three seasons where we actually should be decsent on D.

If Fisher and Reese think Schwartz is a good, heck competent DC then yes I know more than them, at least as far as MbSGWB is concerned. All those times that Schwartz's phone did not ring about HC and DC vancancies this off season was other GMs and HCs agreeing with GoT that Schwartz is a terrible DC. So which GM or HC likes Schwartz so much that they want him on their team????? When you figure that one out don't bother posting it here send it directly to Baptist Sports Park and I will pay the postage I promise.

The Thompson who just got a multi year contract and a signing bonus is not good enough to be in the NFL, although I tend to agree with that he is a veteran and apparently Dehr Schwartzie must like him cause no matter how terrible he plays he still starts.
He came from Cinci already sucking. That's why they got rid of him. Duh. He started cause we didn't have anyone else. Schwartz doesn't make personel decisions. I don't get your point. You did know that, right?
Boiman was NFL calibar when healthy which was not often enough. Kassell good depth but should not have been starting. Sirmon, pre injury, was a pretty good SLB. Fuller was injured as a rookie and this is year two. Reynolds is good depth at LB probably should not be starting. Sandy, Nickey and Randall probably should not have been on the team I agree.
What does just being NFL caliber mean?? Looks like a bunch of excuses to me. Kassel good depth, yes but probably not starter. Sirmon can be good again but coming off an ACL injury he probably should'nt have been starting either. Fuller was a rookie. All the others shouldn't be on the team and won't be this year.
Rookie CBs was at least partly Dehr Schwartzies call and there has been plently of championships - and recent ones - with rookie CBs on the field so playing rookies should not be an excuse for not hitting and giving up game winning drives inside 2:00 at home.
Rookie CB's are what Fisher went with not Swhartz. Sorry, but that's that facts. Again, Swartz doesn't have squat to do with personel.
Wasn't it Schwartz who was playing those slow LBs - BTW Bulluck might take exception to that label, but I know you were referencing Heartless Sirmon and Kassell. And finally yes I blame the DC for fielding a terrible D consistently and predictably. Shwartz didn't decide to play slow LB's. That's all he had to play thanks to cap problems and free agency. And no, I wasn't tallking about Bulluck. When you say something like "Wasn't it Schwartz who was playing those slow LBs" what LB's would you like him to play. I don't understand your statement. Of course he's going to use the LB's he has... Did you have some other LB's in mind?? You just clarified my point that we didn't have a strong core of players last year. Thanks.
I understand, I disagree that these players will automatically improve under Dehr Schwartzies guidance - see Lamont Thompson as exibit A for players who have regressed every year he has played for Schwartz. KVB got much better under Shwartz. So now what? Bulluck hasn't exactly gone down much either. Haynesworth looked better last year at times than he ever has. Laboy definately improved. Who has regressed? I've always thought Thompson sucked. He sucked at Cinci too... You could say that some players haven't reached full expectations but you could point at lots of guys on offense also. The whole team for the matter.
If Fisher and Reese think Schwartz is a good, heck competent DC then yes I know more than them, at least as far as MbSGWB is concerned. What is MbSGWB

All those times that Schwartz's phone did not ring about HC and DC vancancies this off season was other GMs and HCs agreeing with GoT that Schwartz is a terrible DC. So which GM or HC likes Schwartz so much that they want him on their team????? He's under contract for one. Secondly, most coaches don't take lateral jobs. They usually take jobs that allow them to move up. It hasn't really paid off for Dinger has it? How do you know that people havn't contacted him, anyway. You don't. Has anyone contacted your idol Gregg Williams about a HC job since he loused up the Buffulo job. Don't think so. So, once again, you've made a mute point.

So, once again, you've made a mute point.
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So, once again, you've made a mute point.
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Mute points always use sign language...

Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. I'm terrible.

Moot - mute - pute - poop ... What's the difference?

Chute
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Shoot
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Now THAT begs for a caption contest. haha.

He came from Cinci already sucking. That's why they got rid of him. Duh. He started cause we didn't have anyone else. Schwartz doesn't make personel decisions. I don't get your point. You did know that, right?

Yes I am sure that Schwartz is not consulted by Reese, thankfully, but dehr Schwartzie in fact does have input as to who plays and who sits. I am sure Fisher can and does overide him as HC.

I disagree about Reynolds he should have had more playing time last season - in place of Sirmon and or Kassell. Reynolds would have at least been faster even if less experienced.

KVB got better under Washburn, despite having MbSGWB as DC.

MbSGWB = Moneyball Super Genuis Wonder Boy

Did Schwartz even get one interview this off-season? And yes I am petty sure Daniel Snyder has discussed HC possibilities with Greg Williams.

I guess we'll just have to disagree. This could go on forever. Like I said if things don't get better than I'll be right there with you talking about MbSGWB...

you are confusing bad D with terrible D.

25+ points allowed for the last two seasons is not bad, it is terrible.

Which players exactly were so terrible, before Schwartz de-nutted them, that they should not have been in the NFL???????




Man sounds like Y'all could use DeMeco Ryans and Mario Williams. Oh, that's right Y'all are going to out score people with Vince on the bench and White in rehab.:lol:

At least we didn't pass on the best player in the last ten years.... That was the biggest bone-head move ever.

i think he may of forgot our first two draft picks were the main stars in the national championship game last year

wait til VY comes back to houston, you all will be having nightmares over him.....

i think he may of forgot our first two draft picks were the main stars in the national championship game last year

wait til VY comes back to houston, you all will be having nightmares over him.....


Come on, wow a project and a doper reject. That is not bringing fear. Vince may turn out fine, but he wasn't even listed as the top QB.

You guys are worried about who didn't pick. When Billy V. is standing in the pocket you better worry about who we did pick.

Come on, wow a project and a doper reject. That is not bringing fear. Vince may turn out fine, but he wasn't even listed as the top QB.
Vince was listed as having greater potential on every board. Leinhart was listed as the QB that could play the soonest. Lendale should go for about 125 yds against Houston's week D.


You guys are worried about who didn't pick. When Billy V. is standing in the pocket you better worry about who we did pick.Nobody here is worried just dumbfounded by how a team that has been as bad as the Texans have been could pass up a once in a life time player like Bush. It's almost like they want to lose.

Overalls...
Your team has been picking high for years...
still have yet to build a winner... The Titans have had recent success to point to and every reason in the world (minus Swartzie) ... to believe that we are getting there...(back there rather)... the Texans on the other hand have made zero measurable progress since 2002, their first year of being the laughing stock of the league... Go win 10 games and come back and see us... or else just make something up that is entertaining because your loose grip with reality isn't all that amusing today... then again, I ain't really having a great day... so maybe it's just me.

Vince may turn out fine, but he wasn't even listed as the top QB.
And Mario wasn't listed as the top player in the draft. What's your point?

And Mario doesn't even play the positon of the Texans top need.
They passed on D'Brickashaw too.

Do Y'all even pay attention.

Do Y'all even pay attention.
To You?
Honestly, no.:moon:

Do Y'all even pay attention.
is that a statement or a question?:moon2: