News 2 reported lendale white wont play against the saints. gee i wonder why ? imo he needs to sit for about a month.

i heard he didnt really spit on the guy

the story i got was that he was still eating a big mac and half of it fell out when he got hit.

what he did was just about as low as you can get as a human being.

Good to hear.

Should make him run the steps of the colesium and hear what the "fans" think of his behavior.

let's sensationalize this some more as if it hasn't been enough. :whoop:
I'd like to go on as if nothing happened.

You don't know what kind of sick thing Nickey may have said.
I'd rather not speculate.
The whole issue is unhealthy.

:sad2:

It's sad. It happened. It's a shame.

move on. that's about all I ever had to say about this in the first place. if you can't laugh at Broken Record's skoal ad, in light of the fact he himself can no longer use that product for medical reasons, so don't say he's warped... anyone else that can't find the upside or whatever and wants to wallow in puke mess... you would have to be wound too tight not to.

What he did was bad but I'm sure everyone has done something worse so just get off that high horse because I think it just died. :deadhorse:

Brown gets more work to "prove" himself.
LenDale won't get hurt.

Let's just F$%#@#! cut LenDale. :whoop:

that will solve it!

News 2 reported lendale white wont play against the saints. gee i wonder why ? imo he needs to sit for about a month.
I'm sorry.. my last post was not enough. I need to take your bs opinion and grap it by the horns because you sound like you are using houston texturd logic. How in the heck is sitting him for a month going to get him or our RB unit in shape to be ready for NYJ in week one and beyond. What is the heck is that going to accomplish? There is a saying for that spiteful reasoning...

It's called "cutting off your nose to spite your face" ... that is the most moronic suggestion to Fisher short of trading Vince Young for a 5th in next years draft. That is just how stupid that sounds. Not to make an enemy, no, but I just want to put down a non-team metality opinion... I bet you would tell me if the DB was Pacman it would be ok because Pacman is a worthless murdering ganster? whatever dude. I want this team to get better and to win and if that means they act out and be stupid and have to be punished and run suicides... so be it.

White sitting out preseason is a horrible idea. Dropping a spot in the rotation in the first preaseason game is not that big of a deal. It's like grounding a 12 year old. Yes, spiting is a 12-year old move. move on.

So, LenDale spitting on a guy is supposed to make us better? Does it make any difference what someone SAID to him? He spit in a teammate's face. That's inexcusable. Sitting him out for the rest of preseason isn't that bad of an idea. He needs to learn a lesson early. We don't need crap like this going on during the season or in the future. (IF he did in fact spit in the guy's face)

riding the pine for the first preseason game sounds about right too me.

LW gets punished about appropiate for the offense IMHO, especially considering Nickey will probably suit up for the game. LW needs to appologize to Nicky and the whole team for his behavior, but even so this type of thing never leaves the player and LWs loss of whatever cache will really be his punishment.

Good. He needs to sit for that bull****. You don't spit in the face of the opposition, let alone your own people. He earned the ***-whooping too. But that needs to be as far as it goes, doesn't matter what Nickey said to him (Don't be nieve to think that White just spat in his face, DN probably said some foul **** to him). Still, he needs to be punished...

hmmm...a vet defensive player saying something to a rookie running back. Naw, would never happen.

LW shoulda just reminded him about job security.

Did the report specifically say it was because of the spitting, an injury or that he wasn't ready?

Personally, I don't like the idea that I am paying regular season prices to watch a glorified scrimmage and won't get to see our second-round pick because of a discipline issue if that is the case.

Fisher should fine him and make him run until he's puking stuff he ate last Thanksgiving but don't punish the fans by not allowing him to play.

Yeah those of us who resort to illegal TV watching want to see everyone.

Did the report specifically say it was because of the spitting, an injury or that he wasn't ready?

Personally, I don't like the idea that I am paying regular season prices to watch a glorified scrimmage and won't get to see our second-round pick because of a discipline issue if that is the case.

Fisher should fine him and make him run until he's puking stuff he ate last Thanksgiving but don't punish the fans by not allowing him to play.
All they said was that they have just learned that White will not play saturday night, didnt give any reason. I just figured it was for spitting. I agree with you on the ticket price for a preseason game but disagree he should play. If it were up to me he would do all the things you mentioned plus sit for about 3 games.

I think one game will suffice. I think any more than that does the team a disservice. This is the sort of thing you want to deal with and get behind you, thus the theme of my posts on the subject... move on. I agree with Jeff about the preseason ticket thing but ultimately this is Jeff Fisher's call. twoseven, do you remember last year how far behind everyone said Pacman Jones was for his holdout and lack of training camp and preseason action? Is that what you want for LenDale? You want his whole learning curve thrown off completely? Rookie running backs can contribute early in the season. If the Titans are going to have any shot at all to win 10 games they must get a fast start. Also, punishment that runs the course of a month and has reprecussions that carry over into the season make the whole incident bigger than it should be. Every Titan should IMO be doing their best to forget about it.

Make Lendale run 10k at dawn everymorning for a week. (6 am)

that is a fine punishment.

If you think we are going to win 10 games this year your dreaming. I could care less about his learning curve but if i did care it would start with spitting on team members.
What i dont get is that i cant find anything about him not playing on the internet. I wonder if News 2 is correct about this.

this is football man, spitting aint the worse thing in the world, and if you think that sitting out a young prominsing RB for four games is good for us and our future than its good that you aren't a coach, I personally think that he shouldn't be sitting out for this game- they should have just fined him, and Nickey had to do something for him to spit on him, and think of the people, fans, and media who have been anticapating this, if true I am shocked by Fisher- I think if Fisher did this at the last minute like it is after just saying yesterday that each of our RB's will get a quarter each than he made a bad move

No, I don't think we are going to have that much success but that is immaterial to the issue at hand. These guys have to go out there and play like they have the potential to go to the post season regardless of the odds. You should care about his learning curve because learning is the cornerstone of discipline. Making the dude sit the entire preseason will derail his budding career which hasn't even had a chance to take off yet. What he did was wrong, don't misunderstand me on that. Spitting is not cool but I don't know if you are recognizing that punishing a guy over a course of a month, during a formative period only protracts the situation. Have you thought about what that might do to the remainder of White's camp? When he knows he will not play his incentive to kick *** goes down. It drags down the whole team.

He will likely play tonight anyways. This story reeks of manufacture.

No, I don't think we are going to have that much success but that is immaterial to the issue at hand. These guys have to go out there and play like they have the potential to go to the post season regardless of the odds. You should care about his learning curve because learning is the cornerstone of discipline. Making the dude sit the entire preseason will derail his budding career which hasn't even had a chance to take off yet. What he did was wrong, don't misunderstand me on that. Spitting is not cool but I don't know if you are recognizing that punishing a guy over a course of a month, during a formative period only protracts the situation. Have you thought about what that might do to the remainder of White's camp? When he knows he will not play his incentive to kick *** goes down. It drags down the whole team.

He will likely play tonight anyways. This story reeks of manufacture.
I guess we just dont think alike, I would rather have a team with morals. Good role models for kids and so on......... and maybe not win as many games. and you dont care what kind of people we have on the team as long as we win. as far as the story goes i didnt manufacture it, news 2 said it last night.

It's a football team, not a church group. Sports aim to win, not babysit the entire american childhood rearing process

and where are you from again ?

It's a football team, not a church group. Sports aim to win, not babysit the entire american childhood rearing process

I agree. This role model thing is getting out of control.

and where are you from again ?
what difference does that make? Aussies are not much different than Americans. We have very simular westernized cultures with Brittish empire roots. The idea that White should miss all that time from an incident that happened in 110 degree heat is crazy talk. When your response is "where are you from again?" even though it is not directed at me... it's just like you spat on Gunny. That's a hard post to respect yet you argue from atop the moral high horse. Smacks of hypocrisy IMHO.

I don't care if he sits out an exhibition game. And the punishment (this part anyway) does fit the crime. As long as he plays in the real ones...

I guess we just dont think alike, I would rather have a team with morals. Good role models for kids and so on......... and maybe not win as many games. and you dont care what kind of people we have on the team as long as we win. as far as the story goes i didnt manufacture it, news 2 said it last night.
Have you ever done anything that you lamented or regretted? Have you ever felt like you yelled too loud at your kid or girlfriend or whatever... your MOM for you COPPA users out there... Dude, he had a mental lapse and did something really stupid. He needs to learn not suffer. The team needs to learn... not suffer? We have NO CHANCE of winning ten games right? So if we can only win eight I'd rather just win six because they let guys like Tank Williams drink and drive. We made a damn mistake when we didn't cut McNair for alcohol and weapons charges. We should cut Calico for being a sexual deviant not to mention exhibitionist. (Might just need cut him anyways)
It's a football team, not a church group. Sports aim to win, not babysit the entire american childhood rearing process
Too many parents let the TV do that... by the way 27... all you said the News station reported was that he would not play. You have NO SOURCE link that says why and you yourself have admitted that you are going on your own stone cold assumptions. If that is not the defintion of a manufactured story... (seeing that you have a conclusion for why) what? when? where? ok ok ok . why? hmmm... let me whip up a batch of why real quick. Don't mess with me. I've got to much energy for you.

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what difference does that make? Aussies are not much different than Americans. We have very simular westernized cultures with Brittish empire roots. The idea that White should miss all that time from an incident that happened in 110 degree heat is crazy talk. When your response is "where are you from again?" even though it is not directed at me... it's just like you spat on Gunny. That's a hard post to respect yet you argue from atop the moral high horse. Smacks of hypocrisy IMHO.
Just wondering what he knew about "the entire american childhood rearing process". thats all. So now you say it was ok for him to spit on someone because it was 110 degrees out ? the reply wasnt to smack gunny. I was just wondering if he was an American living in Aust. or a native.

Have you ever done anything that you lamented or regretted? Have you ever felt like you yelled too loud at your kid or girlfriend or whatever... your MOM for you COPPA users out there... Dude, he had a mental lapse and did something really stupid. He needs to learn not suffer. The team needs to learn... not suffer? We have NO CHANCE of winning ten games right? So if we can only win eight I'd rather just win six because they let guys like Tank Williams drink and drive. We made a damn mistake when we didn't cut McNair for alcohol and weapons charges. We should cut Calico for being a sexual deviant not to mention exhibitionist. (Might just need cut him anyways)

Too many parents let the TV do that... by the way 27... all you said the News station reported was that he would not play. You have NO SOURCE link that says why and you yourself have admitted that you are going on your own stone cold assumptions. If that is not the defintion of a manufactured story... (seeing that you have a conclusion for why) what? when? where? ok ok ok . why? hmmm... let me whip up a batch of why real quick. Don't mess with me. I've got to much energy for you.

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330, im not here to argue with ya. you just act like i made the story up because i dont have a link to go with it. I also heard it again this morning from News 2. So dont act like im the one starting a big rumor. Your right, I dont have a clue if its true or not but i know what i heard on the news TWICE ! Besides dont waste your energy on me, save it until gametime.

gee... you don't seem to come here much for a guy that has technically been on this forum longer. I wasn't saying that you were smacking Gunny I was just pointing out how disrespectful you were being in general with that remark, or gesture if you will. So let's just let that go. It ain't the heart of the matter. It only pertained to America as Lendale pertains to the americal role model ideal.

I never said it was "ok". I was very clear about how it is wrong. I'm just saying... people have gone to war and cut off ears. Does it matter that I have never been in the military?

last time... you are getting thick.

1. Spiiting is wrong.

2. Discipline is in order.

3. sitting the very first preseason game is enough.

4. Fisher's dog house would be an automatic. He needs to do his extra wind sprints. Lots of winds sprints.

5. **** happens. Heat does things to guys.

6. Rookies can be immature and lose their heads.

7. I asked you if you have ever done anything wrong before that you wish you could take back. I address your posts very well and cover your concerns before I hand you your ***.

8. You put words in my mouth.

9. You shift the topic to US aussie relations. very gay.

10. I would never trade a .500 season for 6-10 because I think the coach should do stupid things.

11. don't lie on the forum when you admit you went on your own imagination. That just makes you appear as if you are a rising 7th grader.

12. I'm going to SPIT now. :spit:

330, im not here to argue with ya. you just act like i made the story up because i dont have a link to go with it. I also heard it again this morning from News 2. So dont act like im the one starting a big rumor. Your right, I dont have a clue if its true or not but i know what i heard on the news TWICE ! Besides dont waste your energy on me, save it until gametime.
Just said that you saw he was sitting and assumed it was for the spit... you told Jeff they gave no reason... you assumed... you have likely assumed correctly... I never questioned the authincity of your account of watching television.. I don't really doubt that you are correct in your assumption in fact.

All they said was that they have just learned that White will not play saturday night, didnt give any reason. I just figured it was for spitting. I agree with you on the ticket price for a preseason game but disagree he should play. If it were up to me he would do all the things you mentioned plus sit for about 3 games.

your punishment is overkill. your source is iffy.

then what the heck is this?

as the story goes i didnt manufacture it, news 2 said it last night.

Said what? Sit for Spit? FOR SPIT? They said that?

Here's my take on this (Which probably means nothing). Tempers are going to flare in this hot humid atmosphere down south. I don't agree with what white did but sitting him out of the saints game makes ABSOLUTELY no since. WE NEED HIM ON THE FIELD GETTING AS MUCH PRACTICE AS HE CAN. As Gunny stated earlier, this is pro football, not a church outing.

Exactly. The only one being punished here are the fans who REALLY want to see him on the field tearin' it up. He gets paid whether he sits or plays right?! Figure out a different way to punish him and get his big *** self on the field so we can see what he can do.

Sitting him out a game probably hurts him more than anything else. He was looking forward to seeing action in his very 1st NFL game.


someone mentioned what if the DB had been Jones instead of Nickey. It wouldn't have mattered to me. I am not a Jones fan but he would have had every right to go after White just like Nickey did. Yeah a shocker I would have defended Jones this time :)

No one knows th whole story, but hopefully Fish does (that is if he's sitting for the spitting). If Lendale's in the wrong, and spitting in someone's face has always been very wrong from where I come from, then sitting him is the right thing IMO.

I do wonder if Nickey deserves any punishment. I guess getting cut will be it :banned:

No one knows th whole story, but hopefully Fish does (that is if he's sitting for the spitting). If Lendale's in the wrong, and spitting in someone's face has always been very wrong from where I come from, then sitting him is the right thing IMO.

I do wonder if Nickey deserves any punishment. I guess getting cut will be it :banned:


considering Fisher apologized to Nickey for blaming him first, there will be no punishment

Sitting LW for one preseason games seems fit.

It's not going to sideline his career to miss one preseason game.

Fisher cannot allow a rookie to disrupt the teams chemistry, like last year. He said zero tolerance for crap like that, and that's what he has to do to keep some kind of order.

The issue of paying fans wanting to see what they paid for is another issue. We shouldn't have to pay regular season prices for preseason anyway, since starters don't play but a fraction of the game.

And it doesn't matter who the reciptiant of the spit was, there would be the same reaction.

i wouldn'[t mind seeing Jeff pull a u-turn in the 4th qtr and send him in

sit him throughout the higlight timeframe and put him in against the 3rd/4th/already-cut teams

make hijm sweat it out a little, then throw him a bone

we'll see if he dresses or not - if he does there's a chance he'll get some reps

I agree with you Hoffa in way. He needs to be punished for what he did but like other people said on this forum, Is nickey innocent in this. If spitting is the only bad thing done here, Then I don't think white needs to be benched. There has been way more drama than this in the NFL in the past. BUT..... if it leads to something more drastic than spitting, then yes, bench him or turn him lose because we DEFINETLY DO NOT NEED THIS KIND OF CRAP ON A TEAM TRYING TO BUILD A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH OTHER. To me, that was one of the things that hurt us bad last year. No one seemed to care.

I think the thing that shocked me most about this story was that Donnie Nickey is still on the team. :lol:

5. **** happens. Heat does things to guys.


Anybody who has ever played football here in Tennessee knows this is the absolute truth. It has been hotter than **** these last two weeks. I think it would be ridiculous to suspend White for more than one game. He needs to get his reps so he'll be ready to play come September.

For whatever it is worth, I've been told by two reliable sources that Pac and Lendale were rountinely out past curfew at camp in Clarksville. These were the only two that presented any problems with curfew. In fact, I am somewhat surprised that this information never made it to the press.

The Tennessean is reporting that Lendale may sit out tonight's game.

Fisher's job is on the line this year. He needs to get control from the beginning. If it means sitting Lendale for this game, then so be it. Yeah, I wanted to see him, but Fisher has got to get the players' attention.

I am sure Thunder wants to show lightning what he can do in the NFL. One game and no one sits next to him on the bench just leave him there alone and let him brew on it. He can come in second team in the next game. He should learn his lesson.

I just hope Lendale learned his lesson. Next time he gets upset at a teammate, he should just take his helmet off and swing it at him while his back is turned.

Next time he gets upset at a teammate, he should just take his helmet off and swing it at him while his back is turned.
If someone spit on him first, I wouldn't blame him for doing just that.

Nickey didn't swing his helmet at him when he was spit on, he did it after the next play after cheap shotting White. I'm actually not defending White, I just think Nickey deserves the same punishment. His actions could have hurt more than just someone's pride.

I just think Nickey deserves the same punishment.

oh , he'll get his .... in the form of his release

GET OVER IT PEOPLE! **** happens! We need him on the field. These are big boys....take away his b-day, but let him get some reps in. He needs it, we as fans need it, the TENNESSEE TITANS NEED IT! I'm sure he regrets what he did. DROP IT, MOVE ON, lets try to shock some teams this year!

I guess we just dont think alike, I would rather have a team with morals. Good role models for kids and so on......... and maybe not win as many games. and you dont care what kind of people we have on the team as long as we win. as far as the story goes i didnt manufacture it, news 2 said it last night.

wow, that just shows me that when it comes to the Titans winning isn't #1 on your mind- this is a FOOTBALL TEAM, PROFESSIONAL SPORTS, THE POINT IS TO WIN, OR YOUR TEAM IS NOT SUCCESSFUL- sure the sports arena could have more role models but that is not its purpose and yes kids are more persuaded by athletes but the #1 goal of the team is to win, players are people and some people are the best role models, now there are some role models kids can look for other- you just told me you rather not win the Super Bowl because you rather have a Boys Scout Team- if someone asked me who would I rather have Randy Moss or Drew Bennett- give Moss everytime, no sweat....

Nickey didn't swing his helmet at him when he was spit on, he did it after the next play after cheap shotting White.
I know how it went down, I read the article.

It's hot every year at camp. There are fights every year at camp. But never at camp have we had one player spit on a teammate. That crossed the line.

This has nothing to do with role models. Or child rearing practices or church. LW stepped over the line and violated the teams code of ethics. That should bring punishment, or else you have no disipline, like last year, and you have a season like last year.

He sits one preseason game. He (and the team) gets a message. His career will not be over because of it. The Titans season will not go down the drain because of it. The future of the franchise is not threatened because of it.

Just wondering what he knew about "the entire american childhood rearing process". thats all. So now you say it was ok for him to spit on someone because it was 110 degrees out ? the reply wasnt to smack gunny. I was just wondering if he was an American living in Aust. or a native.


I want you to play football 2-3 hours a practice twice a day in 110 degree heat, I want you to constantly be getting hit, sometimes falling to the ground, while you are tired, dizzy, and bruised, also while wearing 20lb pads on top of that- Im doing it five days a week- do that and come back telling me that everyone or just you is happy go lucky, you get angry sometimes especially in the conditions and you let your anger get the best of you, Big Al gets in fights all the time, I guess nothing is wrong with that huh, we don't even know the full story with LenDale, sure spitting is wrong, but I say we fine him have a talk with him and let him play, he'll be alright, its not an excuse, but we shouldn't shorten the growth of the player or team this season for something like this

Exactly. The only one being punished here are the fans who REALLY want to see him on the field tearin' it up. He gets paid whether he sits or plays right?! Figure out a different way to punish him and get his big *** self on the field so we can see what he can do.

agreed

I want you to play football 2-3 hours a practice twice a day in 110 degree heat,
They all do that every year, but LW is the only one to have spit on a teammate.
It's not about fighting, that happens every camp.
The team has a code of ethics, LW violated it, and Fisher has to set the punishment he thinks it deserves. I trust Fisher's judgemnent in this situation better than any poster here.

LW career WILL NOT be in jeporady because he sits tonights. His hammy probably needs the rest anyway.

agreed
The fans get punished every preseason game, or mugged, because they pay full price to see the stars play one quarter in a meaningless game no one tries to really win, or cares who wins.

But that's the topic for another thread.

My British Perspective on things here.

Who cares?

1 Pre-season game...so...he'll probably end up playing in some way or another anyway (perhaps) today

I want you to play football 2-3 hours a practice twice a day in 110 degree heat,


is practicing football in the summer new? it happens every yr or maybe you just noticed that:))

Who cares?

1 Pre-season game...so...he'll probably end up playing in some way or another anyway (perhaps) today
They could just play him the entire second preseason game so his career won't be set back by years, which some here think his sitting tonight will do.

yeah I know, but thats harsh, and it is a punishment on the fans as well

which do you hate worse? being spit on in the chest, being punched in the face, or being cheap shotted from behind from a guy who is swinging his helment after you?

is practicing football in the summer new?
No, but Titans spitting on other Titans is new.
Sit his spit tonight.

which do you hate worse? being spit on in the chest, being punched in the face, or being cheap shotted from behind from a guy who is swinging his helment after you?



if you didn't spit on someone you wouldn't have to worry about a helmet being swung at you

is practicing football in the summer new? it happens every yr or maybe you just noticed that:))

I was really talking to a specific poster, I was talking to everyone, sorry for the confusion...

if you didn't spit on someone you wouldn't have to worry about a helmet being swung at you


but thats where I say thats Nickey's problem, he didn't retalitate on the same play which I would have understood and I would have completely took his side if he had retaliated once White spit on him, but he did 30secs after, and not only that he wasn't in the play but came in from behind, swinging his helment- and he is the 3 year veteran Titan in the situation...

which do you hate worse? being spit on in the chest, being punched in the face, or being cheap shotted from behind from a guy who is swinging his helment after you?
These questions must be rhetorical?

When players fight at camp, they throw punches, the fight is broken up, and they go on. No lingering news stories.
When a player spits on his teammate, a violation of team ethics, it brings lingering ill effects, like a cheap shot later, team divisions, unhealthy team chemistry. Lockerroom cancer grows.

That's why Fisher set this punishment, which I trust his judgement to be equal to the crime.

I don't know, Huff- I see where you are coming at, but I think a good fine, a serious talk, and having White apologize to the team would be enough- btw, are we even sure White is sitting out and if he is is this even the reason?

but thats where I say thats Nickey's problem,
Right, my point is if LW had just had a punching brawl with Nickey it would have been over. But spitting is a ethics violation, because it violates you in a personal way, and it can cause a team cancer to grow.

Sit his spit tonight.

.. I think a good fine, a serious talk, and having White apologize to the team would be enough- btw, are we even sure White is sitting out and if he is is this even the reason?
And that might have been enough punishment, but we have to trust Fisher to do what he's getting paid big dollars to do.

And no, I'm not sure of any of this, probably should be in the Rumor Mill.

yeah, I understand you, but it may not even be the reason White could be sitting out, he could be sore- and what if Nickey violated a code of ethics, you know what I mean, but White is just not saying anything...

SUMMARY: Rookie RB LenDale White will likely be forced to sit out tonight's preseason opener because as a result of disciplinary action for a practice incident Thursday, a team official confirmed. White spit on S Donnie Nickey in practice on Thursday morning leading to a fight initiated by Nickey a few plays later. On Friday, Coach Jeff Fisher said White would play in the game after Chris Brown and Travis Henry played the first half. Jarrett Payton and Quinton Ganther will get additional playing time if White is not allowed to play.

What do you think about this article? Post your comments below.

The team has a code of ethics, LW violated it, and Fisher has to set the punishment he thinks it deserves. I trust Fisher's judgemnent in this situation better than any poster here.



Amen to that. If LW has an attitude I wan't Fisher to stomp it out of him as soon as possible

yeah, this is pretty much just a rumor, and the Tennessean could be reporting it because it is on 3 or 4 different websites like this...

well never mind, I still not so sure about this story, because of what Fisher said about White's PT yesterday- my question is what would have made him change his mind overnight over an incident that happened two days ago...

but thats where I say thats Nickey's problem, he didn't retalitate on the same play which I would have understood and I would have completely took his side if he had retaliated once White spit on him, but he did 30secs after, and not only that he wasn't in the play but came in from behind, swinging his helment- and he is the 3 year veteran Titan in the situation...

yes he did swing the helmet within seconds (not 30) and it was the same play

yeah, this is pretty much just a rumor, and the Tennessean could be reporting it because it is on 3 or 4 different websites like this...


yeah right:suspect:

the Tennessean could be reporting it because it is on 3 or 4 different websites like this...

You think?


SUMMARY: Rookie RB LenDale White will likely be forced to sit out tonight's preseason opener because as a result of disciplinary action for a practice incident Thursday, a team official confirmed

I talked to a friend last nite, and I was asking if its really that big a deal. He played football through college, and he said its a HUGE deal. You can fight with someone, say bad things about his momma, and its forgive and forget, but spitting is an absolute no no. He said its pretty much the worst thing you can do to another player. As he said "think about it, the last time you heard about a player spitting on a guy was Bill Romanowski."

As a fan, it sucks that we wont get to see him play. But Fisher needs to take a stand on this, to prevent a rerun of last year.

Wow, punching a guy in the face is better than spitting.

???

???

Right, my point is if LW had just had a punching brawl with Nickey it would have been over. But spitting is a ethics violation, because it violates you in a personal way, and it can cause a team cancer to grow.

Sit his spit tonight.

Exactly.

To put Lendale's punishment in perpective - Last season in the Redskins / Tampa Pay playoffs Redskin Sean Taylor was ejected from the game and fined 17,000 for spitting on Tampa's Michael Pittman.

Fine LW 17K. That'll open his eyes.

Wow, punching a guy in the face is better than spitting.


Dude I kno ur not serious but look at the UFC,Pride or boxing.After a fight bad blood is usually forgotten. Imagine if one fighter spat at another mid fight. The bad blood would never end.

:spit: :crazy: :helmet:

You know this stuff happens every year. I was watching the NFL Network one day a few weeks ago. I somehow got caught up in watching an "Inside Training Camp: Jaguars" from a few years ago. I saw a rookie spit in another guys face and then half the team ended up in a brawl in the middle of the field at midday. I would say that this "rookie spitting in faces" thing is pretty common. I would bet you that if Pacman was in camp last year, this would have happened last year with him. It's certain rooks with that "I was a higher pick than you so I'm better than you" attitude. I am guessing that a lot of the times, the person who is spat on is just giving a young teammate advice. The rook just takes it the wrong way. It may have been what happened the other day.

I am guessing that a lot of the times, the person who is spat on is just giving a young teammate advice. The rook just takes it the wrong way. It may have been what happened the other day.

Could be.

Could also be that the rookie was also showing a tremendous amount of disrespect toward his teammate.

so when LenDale spits on someone he has to sit, but when Cortland Finnegan is charged with DUI he's allowed to play? kinda retarded to me..

kinda retarded to me..
Not to me.
Two very different offenses. Bad judgement off the field, versus a violation of the teams code of ethics on the field against a teammate.

Not to me.
Two very different offenses. Bad judgement off the field, versus a violation of the teams code of ethics on the field against a teammate.

Absolutely.

You practice and play together as a team.

If you want to participate as an individual, try golf.

oh , he'll get his .... in the form of his release
lol

whys he still on the team anyway - oh yeah Reese drafted him in the 5th so he must be good or something.

Not to me.
Two very different offenses. Bad judgement off the field, versus a violation of the teams code of ethics on the field against a teammate.

breaking the law takes a back seat to a bit of saliva?

well the Titans can deal with their rules violations ( lougi patrol), and Starks will have to deal with his lega situation. If he broke his contract, and I am betting he did, the the NFL will get involved.

breaking the law takes a back seat to a bit of saliva?
Who said that?
Breaking a state law is dealt with in the courts.
Breaking a team law is dealt with by Fisher.

Who said that?
Breaking a state law is dealt with in the courts.
Breaking a team law is dealt with by Fisher.

Well put.

Who said that?
Breaking a state law is dealt with in the courts.
Breaking a team law is dealt with by Fisher.

I am comparing White to Finnegan and his DUI.

Finnegan breaks the law and doesnt sit.

White sprays a little saliva and is done.

Just doesnt make sense to me.

Finnegan will be delt with by the NFL.

Not sure but I think there will be classes and fines and such for a "drug" violation. One of the main reasons McNair fought his DUI so hard, that and the renegade cop who pulled him over was stalking celebrities (he pulled over a Democratic party fat cat the week before he pulled over McNair and he killed a bank robber for driving towards him in a crowded parking lot the next week.)

As he said "think about it, the last time you heard about a player spitting on a guy was Bill Romanowski."

As a fan, it sucks that we wont get to see him play. But Fisher needs to take a stand on this, to prevent a rerun of last year.
I didn't have a problem with White sitting the game out. It is best that he did. It sent the proper message to White. That was a very special game being the first one and his former teammate Bush on the other sideline. I'm sure he would have liked to have gone out there and stolen the show but now because he had a mental lapse he will never have that one back. I'm just posting here now because the last time I heard of anyone spitting was during the post season last year when a Redskin DB was ejected from the game. That only legitimizes further Fisher's actions which I support. I am just opposed to making assumptions and premature conclusions without the proper report.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=1482638&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

I am comparing White to Finnegan and his DUI.


Yes, I am familar with the players involved.
My point remains the same.

But don't you think breaking the law should also be dealt with by Fisher and co.?

I also believe it's absolute crap that one player sits and the others don't, not just Finnegan for breaking the law, but also Nickey for attempting to strike someone with a weapon (his helmet turns into one once he swings it). It's a bad message to send in the NFL if you just say, "Heck you broke the law no problem, see you after you bail out and make it to the game."

But don't you think breaking the law should also be dealt with by Fisher and co.?
No

so breaking the law is not worthy of a suspension of atleast a game, but spitting is?

did he play Sat night...Nope he didn't guess that was it

Yea,
I'm through with this thread.




:)

I also believe it's absolute crap that one player sits and the others don't, not just Finnegan for breaking the law, but also Nickey for attempting to strike someone with a weapon (his helmet turns into one once he swings it). It's a bad message to send in the NFL if you just say, "Heck you broke the law no problem, see you after you bail out and make it to the game."
Nickey doesn't exactly have special Reynaldology passover blood to dap on his locker to keep the Angel of Roster from cutting him and rendering his career essentially dead, if only to be resurrected by the waiver wire. Plus he got spat at and I'm sure that's enough to get ticked at in the heat. It's not right but I'm just saying it might have something to do with him being a candidate for a cut so they want to be sure to get him some work.

Plus there might have been a risk angle. You are taking less of a chance by sitting LenDale. (more time to heal as well) Plus that just might be some horrible karma for him to go out there just after spittin on folks.

Most of all he just couldn't not do something about it because that would look weak, and that is the last thing Fisher needs. If he just "loses" the team again, he might be gone. I don't think that means that it's an automatic if we only win, say 5-6 games this year.

About the DUI stuff. I'm sure most folks that get 1 or two dui don't lose their jobs over it. He might be able to afford it real good but if it gets to that point they will revoke his licence or something. I don't know but I think the NFL shouldn't pass over the line of letting these guys be private citizens.

Nickey doesn't exactly have special Reynaldology passover blood to dap on his locker to keep the Angel of Roster from cutting him and rendering his career essentially dead, if only to be resurrected by the waiver wire. Plus he got spat at and I'm sure that's enough to get ticked at in the heat. It's not right but I'm just saying it might have something to do with him being a candidate for a cut so they want to be sure to get him some work.

Plus there might have been a risk angle. You are taking less of a chance by sitting LenDale. (more time to heal as well) Plus that just might be some horrible karma for him to go out there just after spittin on folks.

Most of all he just couldn't not do something about it because that would look weak, and that is the last thing Fisher needs. If he just "loses" the team again, he might be gone. I don't think that means that it's an automatic if we only win, say 5-6 games this year.

About the DUI stuff. I'm sure most folks that get 1 or two dui don't lose their jobs over it. He might be able to afford it real good but if it gets to that point they will revoke his licence or something. I don't know but I think the NFL shouldn't pass over the line of letting these guys be private citizens.
1. Spit doesn't break bones like a helmet would, both should be sitting if one is because they both lost control completely. Both are horrible displays of how a football player should act, although it does happen all the time. Can't favor one over the other.
2. Playing rookies for NFL experience is what pre-season is for, but yes if he's hurt keep him out.
3. Weakness would be making a spitter sit and a Romo-style helmet swing is acceptable. Consitancy is strength.
4. I understand about the DUI stuff, but these aren't private citizens. I know that a lot of people in the public eye would get fired or have some kind of action taken if they were caught DUI, and generally breaking the law. Where I work if you do something to bring a high level of attention to yourself, even outside of work, you will be fired. Granted it's not like a DUI single occurance but spousal abuse caused someone here at our office thier job...

I don't think it was wrong to hold out White, just unfair to him to watch the person he got into a fight with out there playing.

1. Spit doesn't break bones like a helmet would, both should be sitting if one is.

Not a chance.

If that's the case, they'd be pulling guys of the street to play pre-season games because TC fights go on every day.

But, spitting on another players is just disrespectful. And, is worthy of suspension.

But, spitting on another players is just disrespectful. And, is worthy of suspension.

hold on

Nickey swung his friggin helmet (surely aiming for LW's head), while his back was turned - kinda cowardess, hmmm
which could have resulted in injury (concussion or worse)

now, I agree spitting on (or at) people is tacky
but what would you do if someone swung a football helmet at you ?

Nickey should have sat too
not only for attempting to injure a teammate, but for losing his composure and stooping to the opponents level

hold on

Nickey swung his friggin helmet (surely aiming for LW's head), while his back was turned - kinda cowardess, hmmm
which could have resulted in injury (concussion or worse)

now, I agree spitting on (or at) people is tacky
but what would you do if someone swung a football helmet at you ?

Nickey should have sat too
not only for attempting to injure a teammate, but for losing his composure and stooping to the opponents level
I agree with this, not saying fights don't happen because they always do. People lose control. I can't see how anyone can say "LenDale spit he's deserving of a suspension while Nickey only tried to take LenDale's head off with his helmet so he should be ok to play". Controlling yourself is something they both need to learn. I'm sure during a game on the bottom of the pile there's a whole lot more going on than saliva in your eye, that will piss you off to no end. I remember playing and getting jabbed in the ribs, eyes, groin grabbed and more.

None of us were out there and know exactly how things went down on and off the field.
Fisher is a fair players coach if nothing else, I trust he leveled justice.

None of us were out there and know exactly how things went down on and off the field.
Correct, I think there should have been some report on LenDale though, if he was hurt or held off the field. Everyone wants to see how our draft picks are progressing. I was looking forward to seeing LenDale on the field more than Young personally. I remember watching LenDale get the load in USC and went "Damn it'd be nice to have him" and same with Vince, but LenDale was an unexpected suprise and i want to see how he's playing so far. Oh well few more days left til he's on the field, if he's not hurt.