Did anyone else take their radio to the game only to have Mike Keith and Frank Wycheck delays about 15-20 seconds all night long?

Listening to Titans Radio while watching the game was one of the best parts of the game experience for me. I don't know if this is a one-time deal but a lot of fans around me just turned them off because it was so annoying.

Anyone know why?

Jeez, that must have sucked! Without that it feels like high-school JV football.

There was a call about it on the post-game show. Apparently it's from the FCC. Mark Howard was aware of the long delay and said it would remain that way.

I had my brand new headset with me and I was very happy with it. It picked up the signal and it was so very clear. The radio I had for last year wasn't near as good. The proximity of the broadcast tower seemed to fry it I think. As for the delay, I noticed it right away and it was irritating. I did listen to my radio much less than I otherwise would.

Mark Howard was aware of the long delay and said it would remain that way.
As in ALL of the Titans games?

As in ALL of the Titans games?
Yes, appearantly it is to keep profanity being picked up by parabolic mics from making the air.

Did anyone else take their radio to the game only to have Mike Keith and Frank Wycheck delays about 15-20 seconds all night long?

I feel for what you guys may have gone through last night. I say this because we in Winnipeg (I can't speak for the rest of Canadian cities) experience something similar on our CFL broadcasts/telecasts. Our local radio broadcasts are about two seconds ahead of the National TV broadcasts. And, you know whats happening before it happens on TV.

You're right it can be annoying. :grrr:

It sucked. FCC usually says 7 seconds, and I didn't count, but TitanJeff is right. It was really long...10-15 seconds. The previous play would be over, the ball spotted, and the offence headed to the line of scrimmage and the whistle just killed the previous play on the radio a couple of times.

Guess they're afraid Frank might say a bad word.

I received a response from Larry Stone on this that I put in today's article. Basically, it's a $350,000 fine if a player throws out an "F-Bomb" on the sidelines and it somehow gets on the air. Bud isn't going to risk it.

I fear this thing will end up costing Titans Radio a ton of listeners both in the stadium and those who like to turn down the TV and listen at home.

Apparently it's from the FCC. Mark Howard was aware of the long delay and said it would remain that way.


I'M GETTING REALLY SICK OF GOVERNMENT FUN POLICE! THE ONLY REASONABLE RESPONSE IS TO IGNORE THE FCC.

They have no authority--we do. I sure wish people would remember that.

Jeff, the fans are going to have to make a louder noise than the southern baptist morality squad.

Yeah, that's what I said. I'm sick of it.

I received a response from Larry Stone on this that I put in today's article. Basically, it's a $350,000 fine if a player throws out an "F-Bomb" on the sidelines and it somehow gets on the air. Bud isn't going to risk it.

I fear this thing will end up costing Titans Radio a ton of listeners both in the stadium and those who like to turn down the TV and listen at home.
Agree, The Titans / Bud are not going to risk it. Hey, we are the only team that does not have an agreement with Sirius. If you want to listen to the game on Sirius, you will have to listen to the opposing team's broadcast....and I don't think they came to Tennesse for their "training camp tour".

Here's the FCC page on complaints:
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/complaints.html

Specifically, the email is:
fccinfo@fcc.gov

IGNORE THE FCC.

They have no authority-
They do have the authority to level huge fines.

Yes, appearantly it is to keep profanity being picked up by parabolic mics from making the air.
Even with the long delay, that still happened last night. Surely I'm not the only one who heard it?

I fear this thing will end up costing Titans Radio a ton of listeners both in the stadium and those who like to turn down the TV and listen at home.

No doubt.

This is ridiculous. I've never heard a profanity on a football radio broadcast. I dont know if people listening in the stands ever get counted in ratings, but people who listen at home do. Eventually this could cost them advertising dollars.

I dont think the FCC mandates any delay, so this is a case of Titans Radio SEVERELY overreacting. I agree that both the complaints and the fines on this type of thing are out of hand, but so it putting a 20 second delay on the game.

If anyone is going to email the FCC to complain, you also might want to think about emailing Larry Stone. They need to know that they are losing listeners over this.

Someone should email him a link to this thread so he can hear our stories of apathy about Mike and Frank's words when they are half a play late and never describing what us the listeners see. That is the important part. They can sample some crowd noise for production sake. The only sound feed needed is that from the ref mic and that is under standard pa control. How about they not worry about the expensive telescoping microphones and just call the damn game. That's what people care about. No one wants to hear commentary on the last play as they watch the next. I didn't listen to my new radio all that much. I would have liked to.

How about they give them a cow bell a a squezze ball horn and a drum and cymbal. Back in the day they did not have such sophisticated sound pick up stuff. It has ruined their product. They should just nip it in the bud and not use those mics. If they taint their product and make them take crazy measures to counteract it... it's just not worth the sacrafice. They could at least offer a short range weak fm signal for stadium purposes... comparable to a pirate radio station. That might cost as much as three fines but could be a solution the fans can live with.

I certainly wouldn't want to think of Adams as cheap. I understand that he is trying to watch his money and all that. If Sunshine is right about there being a f-bomb or whatever on the air last night... that just goes to show that the delay is some how ineffective and other solutions must be sought. I think it would be awesome for there to be a pirate style stadium frquency that comes in crystal clear. They could tie things into the eventual scoreboards that will be bought with the LP money. It would be a stadium enhancement thing.

They do have the authority to level huge fines.

Because it goes uncontested. They're fining the wrong people....CBS instead of Janet jackson, the fans instead of the players, the broadcasters instead of the offender.

By hatchet axe and saw we have to all be cut down to fit the behavior of the lowest common denominator??

Because it goes uncontested.
Not so sure about that.

Honestly, how can they afford to risk $350k if some player drops an f-bomb while the ref has his mike open making a penalty call? To protect yourself from this, you'd not be able to do player interviews, capture any game sounds, or even be in ear shot of a fan under the broadcast booth.

This is a situation where the listener loses because of regulations created to protect them.

The irony is the fans were all sitting in
the stands cussing about it. :ha:

Honestly, how can they afford to risk $350k if some player drops an f-bomb while the ref has his mike open making a penalty call? To protect yourself from this, you'd not be able to do player interviews, capture any game sounds, or even be in ear shot of a fan under the broadcast booth.

I don't need to hear from a player during a game. And, I'm sure the player could do without it,too.

It's probably the last thing they want to do during the game.

They can sample some crowd noise for production sake. The only sound feed needed is that from the ref mic and that is under standard pa control. How about they not worry about the expensive telescoping microphones and just call the damn game.

My thoughts exactly. I like hearing the "hut/hut" and "blue 82" as much as the next guy, but if it ruins the broadcast get rid of it. I might be surprised how much I miss some of it though. (I normally watch on TV anyhow - but they have the same audio feed at line of scrimmage that radio gets.).

Maybe we can make this a sticky.

Thanks for your email -- AND most importantly your passion for hearing Mike and Frank's call. It means a lot to me you would email me about this topic.

In short, you can thank Janet Jackson for the delay -- the FCC has cracked down on obscenity on both radio and television in the wake of this incident. The FCC answers to the public on these kinds of issues, however, special interest groups have taken the opportunity to seize on any obscenity and report it to the FCC -- making it appear to be a mass citizen protest.

This recently happened with a NASCAR event where a swear word came over the driver's radio and was aired on television. A conservative family group had its members report the incident to the FCC -- though it was found few of the people who reported the incident had even watched the race.

And, the FCC has increased the fines for obscentiy to about 350K per report.

That's the background. As for the delay Saturday night, our company felt as though it had no choice in the wake of the above.
Keep in mind, this is not about Mike, Frank, Cody or myself "letting one slip." We have live microphones in the crowd and on the sidelines that could pick up a player, coach, official -- someone potentially using a expletive. With the delay in place, we have a chance to remove such an accidental airing. We will, however, continue to look at other alternatives that might allow us to give you the broadcasts in real time.

I am not a political type, but I would also encourage you to email the FCC -- they govern the public airwaves based on what you, a member of the public, wants. They would be interested to hear, not so much about this specific delay -- but if you believe, as I do, that a swear word picked up by a microphone at a football game is not the kind of obscentiy we need to be worried about as a society. Everyone involved should be more concerned about the willing and blatant use of obscenity -- that is, obscenity that is in the script of a television show -- or at the core of what a radio show is about.

There's the answer -- I hope it makes sense. And I hope you will let you fellow fans know that we, too, do not like the situation. And we continue to work on it. That's a promise.

Go Titans!
Larry

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Same letter I received this morning.

That letter is a long way to say,
"It's not our fault, write someone else."

I have never watched you local broadcast before, and I hate to say it, but it was kinda lame. It wasn't even in HD. And the second half was even worse than the first half. And Eddie George wasn't too bad, but after listening to Wychek, Andre Ware, Warren Moon, and Spencer Tilman, Eddie George was pretty bad. Even getting a little dead air comment there in the first half.

If I had to choose and I was in TN, I definately go radio. I know it was only preseason, and they are warming up, but the broadcast seemed a little lifeless.

I'll be tuning out of the live broadcasts unless they can get the delay down to 2-3 seconds. I watch the play myself anyway and I only listen for their perspective on the play.

I had my son with me last night and did not even bother with a radio - I knew I would not be listening anyways - did they do post game OC/DC/HC reports??? Always one of my favorite things win or loose.

I have never watched you local broadcast before, and I hate to say it, but it was kinda lame. It wasn't even in HD. And the second half was even worse than the first half. And Eddie George wasn't too bad, but after listening to Wychek, Andre Ware, Warren Moon, and Spencer Tilman, Eddie George was pretty bad. Even getting a little dead air comment there in the first half.

If I had to choose and I was in TN, I definately go radio. I know it was only preseason, and they are warming up, but the broadcast seemed a little lifeless.


The TV commentators for the preseason are guys who could not get a full time gig anywhere making them available for a 4 game contract.

Maybe we can make this a sticky.

Thanks for your email -- AND most importantly your passion for hearing Mike and Frank's call. It means a lot to me you would email me about this topic.

In short, you can thank Janet Jackson for the delay -- the FCC has cracked down on obscenity on both radio and television in the wake of this incident. The FCC answers to the public on these kinds of issues, however, special interest groups have taken the opportunity to seize on any obscenity and report it to the FCC -- making it appear to be a mass citizen protest.

This recently happened with a NASCAR event where a swear word came over the driver's radio and was aired on television. A conservative family group had its members report the incident to the FCC -- though it was found few of the people who reported the incident had even watched the race.

And, the FCC has increased the fines for obscentiy to about 350K per report.

That's the background. As for the delay Saturday night, our company felt as though it had no choice in the wake of the above.
Keep in mind, this is not about Mike, Frank, Cody or myself "letting one slip." We have live microphones in the crowd and on the sidelines that could pick up a player, coach, official -- someone potentially using a expletive. With the delay in place, we have a chance to remove such an accidental airing. We will, however, continue to look at other alternatives that might allow us to give you the broadcasts in real time.

I am not a political type, but I would also encourage you to email the FCC -- they govern the public airwaves based on what you, a member of the public, wants. They would be interested to hear, not so much about this specific delay -- but if you believe, as I do, that a swear word picked up by a microphone at a football game is not the kind of obscentiy we need to be worried about as a society. Everyone involved should be more concerned about the willing and blatant use of obscenity -- that is, obscenity that is in the script of a television show -- or at the core of what a radio show is about.

There's the answer -- I hope it makes sense. And I hope you will let you fellow fans know that we, too, do not like the situation. And we continue to work on it. That's a promise.

Go Titans!
Larry

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Executive Producer/Game Day Host
Titans Radio
506 2nd Ave South
Nashville, TN 37210
(615) 727-7020 phone (615) 259-1271 fax
www.titansradio.com
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The other day an Australian commentator was commentating a cricket match between South Africa and Sri Lanka and one of the Sth African players who is a muslim got a wicket and the Aussie commentator, thinking he was off-air and the microphones off, said 'The Terrorist got a wicket'. Which was apparently heard on TV as he wasn't off air.

He is now jobless.

weak

Many years ago when I was in Australia the Aussies toured Pakaistain, oh my gosh the insults, both ways. There was some superstar Pakistainy guy who was on TV and all anyone wanted to talk about. Seems Australia beat them down pretty bad on that tour if I remember correctly.

Hey Folks....

They are feeding you a line of crap. After I noticed the HUGE delay, I went searching for other stations. I was able to barely pick up a station out of Franklin around the 950 AM area. There was MAYBE 2 second delay. Then it went out. Then I later found a FM station and same thing. Little if any delay. I don't think this is a Titan thing, it is a 103.3 thing. The broadcaster, 103.3, is making the choice in delaying the signal so much. Of course they don't have a email address to respond to on their website, but that is who we need to flood.

Seems Australia beat them down pretty bad on that tour if I remember correctly.

as usual.

though i dont think it is weak to sack a commentator for calling a muslim player a terrorist. Especially in this day and age.

The broadcaster, 103.3, is making the choice in delaying the signal so much. Of course they don't have a email address to respond to on their website, but that is who we need to flood.

http://www.103wkdf.com/contact_us

looks like plenty of people to contact here

as usual.

though i dont think it is weak to sack a commentator for calling a muslim player a terrorist. Especially in this day and age.


Come on Gunny!

Cricketeers use foul language and vulgar insults all the time, well at least they used too. When did Cricket become a PC sport?

Firing the announcer was hopefully just a kneejerk reaction by the network and they will quietly reinstated the guy. But I bet you are right and his career is over for one thoughtless remark

Come on Gunny!

Cricketeers use foul language and vulgar insults all the time, well at least they used too. When did Cricket become a PC sport?

Firing the announcer was hopefully just a kneejerk reaction by the network and they will quietly reinstated the guy. But I bet you are right and his career is over for one thoughtless remark

On the field is different, no one hears it.

A commentator calling a muslim a terrorist in this day and age is just asking for repercussions. And this was in Sri Lanka where I assume there are a few of the muslim faith.

Hey Folks....

They are feeding you a line of crap. After I noticed the HUGE delay, I went searching for other stations. I was able to barely pick up a station out of Franklin around the 950 AM area. There was MAYBE 2 second delay. Then it went out. Then I later found a FM station and same thing. Little if any delay. I don't think this is a Titan thing, it is a 103.3 thing. The broadcaster, 103.3, is making the choice in delaying the signal so much. Of course they don't have a email address to respond to on their website, but that is who we need to flood.
Hmmmm... it doesn't make much sense that the delay be 20 seconds. Maybe the local print media will investigate this and produce something.

I sent a letter to the FCC about this. I'll be interested to see what their response may be. Meanwhile, I'll ask Larry why the delay needs to be so long.

What baffles me is that 103.3 will lose listeners during the game if this continues. Why would they do this?

Here's about 10 minutes of research:

103.3 WKDF is owned by Citadel Broadcasting. Their site has no e-mail contact but they do post their legal representatives, Kirkland and Ellis.

So I would send comments to: info@kirkland.com

The good news is that it will perfectly match up with ESPN's gameday, which runs at least 30 seconds behind. If not minutes.

I just wanted to drop you a line to tell you how dissappointed I was with the very long delay on the game call for the Saints and Titans game. I enjoy sitting in the stadium for all the home games and I love to tune in and listen as I take in the game. I even turn down the tv volume at home and listen on 102.3 in Chattanooga. I drive all the way to Nashville for all the games.

I understand the FCC stuff and the fines and those concerns, but the use of mics that pic up obscure rare things are not the sort of things that upset most people. That is not the type of indecency that the spirit of the laws is trying curtail. The bottom line is I just could not listen. I just am unwilling, as many fans are, to hear a play called as the next one is run before my eyes.

Bottom line, the use of certain sound eqipment to "enhance" the listening experience has ruined it all togther. I look forward to the weekend to see how 102.3 handles it and how in synce it is with the TV... but I expect a delay... it makes me sad.

Pehaps some crowd noise could be sampled and directional mikes not be employed? I just bought a new radio for the new season and I hardly used it at all while I watched the game. I sure hope something could be done.

Perhaps a low wattage transmitter on a seperate frequency could carry the game in real time? It could be one of those things that broadcasts a very short range. That could cut down on the risks with the FCC. Something must be done. If the game call is not in synce with TV and live action, or at least within a second or two for satelitte transmissions... many people will no longer listen, myself included. It's just not worth the headache.

Thankyou for taking the time to read my message. Please look into what can be done about this.

I talked to Larry Stone who just encourages everyone to stay patient but that there may be a solution in place by the Falcons game. Stay tuned.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/SPORTS01/608160414/1027

atleast your whinging isn't falling on deaf ears.

However I don't see how Janet Jacksons wardrobe malfunction has anything to do with radio.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/SPORTS01/608160414/1027

atleast your whinging isn't falling on deaf ears.

However I don't see how Janet Jacksons wardrobe malfunction has anything to do with radio.

Well since they couldn't catch that lovely wardrobe malfunction in time to blurr it out, they had lots of complaints, not only about that but about radio brodcasts airing foul language and indecent subjects. So now they have cracked down not only on the Television stations and what they air but also on the radio stations and what is broadcast across on them. They now have delays not on live TV airings but also on live radio programs in order to bleeb or blurr out the foul language and scenery.

talk about paranoid.

:logo: Anymore info about this radio delay?

I turned it off last weekend while watching the game on TV because of the delay. Hopefully, it'll be shorter Saturday night but I bet it'll still be too much to make it worth listening to at the game.

I turned it off last weekend while watching the game on TV because of the delay. Hopefully, it'll be shorter Saturday night but I bet it'll still be too much to make it worth listening to at the game.
I agree, Any delay at all will be a drag watching it live. They need to just make a seperate channel just for the fans at the game, like a drive in movie theater does. maybe even have a "warning" about it so no one at the game can freak out because they hear a swear word. either that or get all them stupiid mics off the field, then the problem is solved. I could care less what Schwartz is saying to the guys that are huddled around him.
The N.F.L. is letting to many mics,cameras,and reporters on the field.
It looks like to me there are 10,000 people standing on the sidelines at every game doing nothing but getting in the way.

The reply I got from Larry Stone today to my e-mail asking him if they have found any solutions yet was that there WILL NOT be a delay for the Atlanta game.

strap those headsets back on !

I very much enjoyed listening to the game on my radio. It was great. I hope that they do the season just as they did last night.

I agree, Bipolar, no delay problem last night.

I'm surprised there were no bad words heard, after the way the Titans played.

Watching the games from my home in Knoxville, I was actually glad to hear about the delay because the game on a DirecTV DVR is delayed by several seconds in relation to live radio. When I switched from cable to satellite last year, I had to quit listening to the radio broadcast because it was too far ahead of TV. Now with the radio delayed more than TV, I can use the pause feature on the DVR to time-shift the video and sync up the game perfectly. I did that yesterday, and it worked out great. I don't know if the Knoxville affiliate decided to keep a significant delay because no one at the game is listening to their station, but I like it very much.

well good for you, makes it suck for everyone at the game tho.

So I guess we should all just quit listening to it unless we have DirectTv...makes sense to me...:rolleyes:

WOKI had the delay not WKRN. This time at the stadium the radio broadcast was great and in real time. It's my hope they continue that way.