SUMMARY: Titans Coach Jeff Fisher said that the injury to QB Vince Young Saturday night was not serious. "Vince will be fine," Fisher said. "I expect him to be able to practice tomorrow afternoon. A little sore, but just a mild ankle sprain. It really settled down on the sideline. As I mentioned last night, we had intended on that being his last drive and we were going to put Cody [Hodges] in at the point. So, he was not removed from the game because of the ankle injury." Fisher went on to say a number of players will return this week from their injuries. "Bo Scaife should be back, Gregg Guenther should be back, Brandon Jones is up for another good week," said Fisher. "We should be healing up and be able to have more players on the field next week."

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SUMMARY: Titans Coach Jeff Fisher said that the injury to QB Vince Young Saturday night was not serious. "Vince will be fine," Fisher said. "I expect him to be able to practice tomorrow afternoon. A little sore, but just a mild ankle sprain.

Whew!! :toast:

This may actually be a blessing in disquise, maybe he won't try to run as much now. I understand his running makes big plays but I still don't want to see the guy get hurt.

He wasn't running when he got hurt, he made an ill-advised over the shoulder pass at the time.

He was just working on a new throwing motion.

He was just working on a new throwing motion.
Back to the drawing board.

He was walking around fine after the game. Not a limp in sight.

This may actually be a blessing in disquise, maybe he won't try to run as much now. I understand his running makes big plays but I still don't want to see the guy get hurt.

None of us do.

Including Jeff Fisher and Floyd Reese.

I guess the good thing though is that he avoids big hits very well. In all of his college career I can't think of a time where he got popped real good. Or should I say Bomarized?
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He wasn't running when he got hurt, he made an ill-advised over the shoulder pass at the time.
He was definitely on the move outside of the pocket, even if he hadn't passed the line of scrimmage and was still contemplating throwing it.

But he'd left his blockers, he'd probably held the ball longer than Chow/Fisher would want him to before just throwing it away and living for another play, and he didn't seem to sense the guy that was bearing down on him from behind.

It's going to be tough finding the balance with him in terms of how long is too long to hold the ball trying to make a play, because he's one of those guys who can improvise.

But if they don't find the balance, there are going to be a lot of those hold-your-breath moments, waiting for him to pick himself up off the turf.

He was just working on a new throwing motion.

And, the scouts said that no matter how hard coaches tried they'd never be able to get him to change his throwing motion. :winker:

Well yeah, he was running for his life, looking for someone to throw it to, and then just threw it up for grabs.

One thing that I noticed more than once, he didn't seem to drop back far enough and pass. Lucky a D lineman didn't bat it down or intercept.

Well yeah, he was running for his life, looking for someone to throw it to, and then just threw it up for grabs.

Yeah, that play was nothing but instinct on his part.

As he gets more comfortable in the offence I'm sure he'll stay in the pocket a little longer and look for second and/or third reads.

Looked like a rookie played like a rookie but showed he has picked things up pretty well and showed flashes of great things he can do. He needs more time and isn't ready for the NFL yet but we all knew that. I think we will see improvement each week and he will be a great QB in a year or 2.

One thing that I noticed more than once, he didn't seem to drop back far enough and pass.

that could be because he's still learning to count to 5 :closemout

seriously, one thing I repeatedly noticed is that he was threading into tight and sometimes double coverage

i guess it's that Chow system ... get it out quick

I think we will see improvement each week and he will be a great QB in a year or 2.

Let's hope it's the former instead of the latter. :winker:

I think he's ready now. Vince Young surveyed the field, showed some pocket presence, and then took off. In a couple quarters he actually would have connected on one big play downfield too. Which is more than the Titans got with McNair. You can't ask for much more. I thought he played like a starter. I don't think he came out of the pocket early. He was calm in there. He made some reads and then took off. He had some nice crisp throws mixed in with some errant throws. No major mistakes. One boner, but tell that to Brett Favre and John Elway who made boners all through their careers. It's gonna happen. I thought he looked like a starter out there. I mean look at the running. He averaged more yards this weekend than he got in college. He's gonna be ok out there. He averaged 10 or so carries a game in college. He can take a hit. NFL players may be bigger, faster, and all that, who can deny that, but tackling is not that different from college to the pro if you can dodge like Young seems to be able to do. Better to be tackled down field than sitting in pocket waiting for some second rate wr's to get open. Looked real good to me. I liked what I saw.

He made two horrendous decisions in the few drives that he was on the field for. He's not ready yet.

He made two horrendous decisions in the few drives that he was on the field for. He's not ready yet.

I guess you didn't watch any preseason football at all this weekend. Almost every QB that played more than one series made bad decisions. That doesn't mean he's not ready. This whole "He's not ready" theory is a bunch of crap. Eli, Peyton, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Bledsoe, Leftwich, Plummer, Weinke all started their rookie season. Plummer and Weinke weren't even first rounders. So don't give me that he's not ready crap. Vince could step in and play the position right now. Yes he'll make mistakes but that's what rookies do. He'll also be learning on the job. You guys can cry that "give him a year to learn" crap if you want. But the fact is he's gonna make those mistakes in his first season. Everybody knows practice is not the same as in game experience. One year on the bench is not gonna remove all of his mistakes due to inexperience. They'll just happen one year later.

I guess you didn't watch any preseason football at all this weekend. Almost every QB that played more than one series made bad decisions. That doesn't mean he's not ready. This whole "He's not ready" theory is a bunch of crap. Eli, Peyton, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Bledsoe, Leftwich, Plummer, Weinke all started their rookie season. Plummer and Weinke weren't even first rounders. So don't give me that he's not ready crap. Vince could step in and play the position right now. Yes he'll make mistakes but that's what rookies do. He'll also be learning on the job. You guys can cry that "give him a year to learn" crap if you want. But the fact is he's gonna make those mistakes in his first season. Everybody knows practice is not the same as in game experience. One year on the bench is not gonna remove all of his mistakes due to inexperience. They'll just happen one year later.
What riding the pine and playing 2nd team offense does is put you out on the field vs the first team defense. That will in fact help him learn about the position plus learning behind BV will be benificial. Sure he could step in and make tons of mistakes, and yes he will make mistakes after he starts (this year or next doesn't matter). Everyone makes "inexperienced" mistakes for a few years.

I guess you didn't watch any preseason football at all this weekend. Almost every QB that played more than one series made bad decisions. That doesn't mean he's not ready. This whole "He's not ready" theory is a bunch of crap. Eli, Peyton, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Bledsoe, Leftwich, Plummer, Weinke all started their rookie season. Plummer and Weinke weren't even first rounders. So don't give me that he's not ready crap. Vince could step in and play the position right now. Yes he'll make mistakes but that's what rookies do. He'll also be learning on the job. You guys can cry that "give him a year to learn" crap if you want. But the fact is he's gonna make those mistakes in his first season. Everybody knows practice is not the same as in game experience. One year on the bench is not gonna remove all of his mistakes due to inexperience. They'll just happen one year later.

Thinking like you do could do more harm than good. That's why Jeff Fisher is coaching and your not. I agree he should have some playing time this year, but I don't think he should play every game. Risk playing a 58 million dollar QB in his rookie year IS NOT a great decision (refer to saturday nights game.)

Thinking like you do could do more harm than good. That's why Jeff Fisher is coaching and your not. I agree he should have some playing time this year, but I don't think he should play every game. Risk playing a 58 million dollar QB in his rookie year IS NOT a great decision (refer to saturday nights game.)

So the coaches that started the Mannings, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Plummer, Weinke etc. are all idiots then huh? A QB can only get hurt when he starts as a rookie huh? You are making no sense at all. Let's protect that $58 mil QB and just never play him. That way he will never get hurt, unless it's in practice. Oh well, let's hold him out of practice too.

On the other hand, Billy looked sharp (1st series incompletion to Givens notwithstanding)...I actually like him as a stopgap to the VY era. Especially if the run game holds up.

I'm not a huge favor of reverting to the "live or die by the field goal" mentality, though.

So the coaches that started the Mannings, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Plummer, Weinke etc.
Take out Peyton, and the rest of those bums STINK.

And Peyton can't win a big game. :))

It it blatantly obvious that Young is not ready to be an NFL starting QB...

Take out Peyton, and the rest of those bums STINK.

And Peyton can't win a big game. :))

Finish the sentence next time you quote me.

Finish the sentence
I don't need to finish anything. I made my point, the QB's you listed are bums.

you left out leftwich and bledsoe

If you want the Titans to win more than five games, pray Volek stays healthy.

If you want the Titans to win more than five games, pray Volek stays healthy.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/bipolartitan/priest.gifOH Reynaldo, please watch over Billy Volek.
keep him free from injury...
make his passes spot on...

keep him free from ints..

and deliever him from forced fumbles.
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glory be to Fisher Floyd and Reynaldo...
as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be...

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Wow i just feel like going to confession for blasphemy after reading that!

:brow:

Take out Peyton, and the rest of those bums STINK.

And Peyton can't win a big game. :))

And, who knows if Peyton ever will?

So the coaches that started the Mannings, Carr, Harrington, Smith, Plummer, Weinke etc. are all idiots then huh? A QB can only get hurt when he starts as a rookie huh? You are making no sense at all. Let's protect that $58 mil QB and just never play him. That way he will never get hurt, unless it's in practice. Oh well, let's hold him out of practice too.

I don't remember anywhere in my post stating not to ever start VY. What I'm saying is there is absolutly no need to start him this quick. A rookie mistake like what he tried to do saturday night could have cost him the entire season. To me, imo, it's not worth starting somebody that has his potential to early. He has much to learn before being named #1. And yes, those coaches (and G.M's) of those listed besides dungy are idiots.:))

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/bipolartitan/priest.gifOH Reynaldo, please watch over Billy Volek.
keep him free from injury...
make his passes spot on...

keep him free from ints..

and deliever him from forced fumbles.
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glory be to Fisher Floyd and Reynaldo...
as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be...

a world without the OILERS. Amen.http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/bipolartitan/priest.gif

I don't care who you are...that there is funny!!

Back to the thread topic, current discussion about whether or not he's ready to play, not withstanding. I just read an interesting quote from Vince. When asked about the ankle injury, he said, "It was kind of a tradition for him to tweak his ankle every first game." Then said "It was pretty cool." :bonk:

I just hope he doesn't "tweak his ankle" anymore.

I don't remember anywhere in my post stating not to ever start VY. What I'm saying is there is absolutly no need to start him this quick. A rookie mistake like what he tried to do saturday night could have cost him the entire season. To me, imo, it's not worth starting somebody that has his potential to early. He has much to learn before being named #1. And yes, those coaches (and G.M's) of those listed besides dungy are idiots.:))
My first post gang -
I think the issue of when (or if) to start a rookie is as much a matter of their maturity -- how they react to adversity - as it is their game readiness. All new QB's will make rookie mistakes -- it's a matter of how those mistakes affect them. Take a look back at two HOF QB's - Troy Aikman and Dan Marino - both started as rookies (Aikman's situation most comparable to Young).

I just hope he doesn't "tweak his ankle" anymore.

You (all Titans fans) and everyone in the Titans organization.

I personally would like to see him as the 2nd string guy but atlease one or 2 drives per game get in there to see how far he has progressed. Lets face it, this team is not going to the playoffs. If they are .500 by the end of the year I will see it as a successful season.

Vince and the coaches needs game time to benchmark his progression.

I don't remember anywhere in my post stating not to ever start VY. What I'm saying is there is absolutly no need to start him this quick. A rookie mistake like what he tried to do saturday night could have cost him the entire season. To me, imo, it's not worth starting somebody that has his potential to early. He has much to learn before being named #1. And yes, those coaches (and G.M's) of those listed besides dungy are idiots.:))

You are right. There is no NEED to start him this quick. My entire argument is against the people who are acting as if Vince can only learn by sitting a year and that starting him game 1 will somehow destroy him. It's ultimately up to Fisher. But if he decides to start him game one, people should not worry that he will be forever lost because of it.

Also, that ankle tweek Saturday has absolutely nothing to do with the horrible rookie mistake he made. He was getting tackled as he threw up the ball. So he was gonna get that ankle tweeked regardless.

I don't know that a rookie QB stands anymore risk of injury than any other QB.

Also, that ankle tweek Saturday has absolutely nothing to do with the horrible rookie mistake he made.

But I'd say it did have something to do with him being a rookie, and not being as used to having D-linemen with the speed to still chase him down from behind after he's eluded them by scrambling out of the pocket. He had the ball in his hand a while before getting hit.

I'm all for VY being able to stand mostly on the sidelines this year, watching how things unfold and getting used to the pace of the game from that perspective. I think it will help him cut down on those "never saw it coming" hits like the one that ended up with him on the ground, holding his ankle, once he does start taking a lot of snaps.