Per NFL.com
The Jets got Lee Suggs from the Browns for DB D. Strait

Does anybody still think we will be in the market to trade away a RB/TE/WR?



Also I noticed Dan Wilkinson -sp? Signed with the Dolphins today...

Although I REALLY like Mahelona, I think we need one more big man at DT.

Does anybody still think we will be in the market to trade away a RB/TE/WR?


I think we'll be looking to trade a RB before the end of the pre-season.

But, I think Fish, and the rest of the coaches, would like to see what they have/need in the next couple of weeks before making that decision. I also think they'll take any injury considerations into account before making a move.

I don't think they'll trade a RB after all. Not much market value for Gaither/Payton, and with the renewed emphasis on the run (how many times did the announcers say it Sat night??), they'll run all 3 of those guys into the ground.

I do think a DT signing is on the horizon.

I think this is a list of current FA DT... IYO Would any of these guys be worth bringing in for a look?

http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=DT

nevermind that is just a list of potential? free agents... still I'll leave it for comparrison sake.


Here are some I came across while searching... http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL+Zone/Free-agent+moves.htm

DT -
Sam Adams? Jason Fisk? Josh Williams? Ted Washington? Kenderick Allen?
Brentson Buckner?

DE -
Duane Clemons? Trevor Pryce? Brandon Noble?

These are other FA I was wondering about - if anyone knows...
LB Na'il Diggs? OG Matt Stinchcomb? CB Ahmed Plummer? LB Jamie Sharper?
LB Chris Claiborne?


Also one other question... When do teams begin making cuts? I think we could wait until then to add DL/OL depth.

Per NFL.com
The Jets got Lee Suggs from the Browns for DB D. Strait

i bet they would have gone after Mawae had he still been there

I don't think they'll trade a RB after all. Not much market value for Gaither/Payton,

i don't think it'd be either of them in trade talks

lol at first i was like what??? t suggs, then i was like nah. the one they got sucks.

Here are some I came across while searching... http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL+Zone/Free-agent+moves.htm

DT -
Sam Adams? Jason Fisk? Josh Williams? Ted Washington? Kenderick Allen?
Brentson Buckner?
.

These are guys that WHERE Free agents. All but Buckner have signed with other teams. Buckner's pretty good though. Worth considering for sure.

Also one other question... When do teams begin making cuts? I think we could wait until then to add DL/OL depth.

August 29, 2006: Roster cut down to maximum of 65 players.


September 2, 2006: Roster cut down to maximum of 53 players.

August 29, 2006: Roster cut down to maximum of 65 players.


September 2, 2006: Roster cut down to maximum of 53 players.

Thanks Childress79...

The more I think about what might be available via trade or current FA the more I believe the Titans will watch other teams' PreSeason and August/September cuts... I would expect there should be some mid-high quality talent available.

Update... SUGGS fails Physical He goes back to Browns.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9602667


I wonder if Reese's phone has started ringing yet?

Update... SUGGS fails Physical He goes back to Browns.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9602667


I wonder if Reese's phone has started ringing yet?

Bet on it.

I agree with the signing of one more DT. With Long out for the season and Starks getting in trouble for who knows how long, the Titans will need depth on the line. I foresee a trade of a RB for a DT or DB. Hey, if the Steelers need a guy like Henry to replace the bus, we could definitely use a guy like Polamalu or Joey Porter. :brow:

... Starks getting in trouble for who knows how long,
Starks is charged with misdemeanor domestic. If he doesn't have another incident, he will get parole and no jail time. No reason to believe he will miss any more time.

for a misdemeanor he will receive community service and thats about it, im sure he payed his bail he'll have his day in court then move on with his life, thankfully it sshouldnt go past a little community service and he will be on the d-line before preseason is over

I don't want to trade Brown, but if the Jets really want him do they have any DL that would be worth the trade, especially a DT? Or a CB? I don't think Straight for Brown is a good deal, btw. So I mean some OTHER player.

I don't want to trade Brown, but if the Jets really want him do they have any DL that would be worth the trade, especially a DT? Or a CB? I don't think Straight for Brown is a good deal, btw. So I mean some OTHER player.


I like Shaun Ellis, (former DL from U. Tenn) but I wonder if they'd part with him.

Dewayne Robertson DT is also interresting to me along with a pick...

or I'd take Cedric Houston and a 3rd round pick :evil: because I'd assume they are interrested in T. Henry/Brown... :kiss:

I also agree that Derrick Strait alone would not do it for me.

Shaun Ellis is awesome. Seriously doubt they would part with him though. Thats pretty much the only guy I think we should trade Brown for. He's too important.

Dwayne robertson? He was like the 4th pick in the entire draft in 2003. He's the best DT they have and solidly productive and reliable.

They are not going to give up their best DT for chris brown and will certainly not give up on that high a pick in mid career.

Dewayne Robertson DT is also interresting to me along with a pick....

Don't hold your breath. :rolleyes:

Dwayne robertson? He was like the 4th pick in the entire draft in 2003. He's the best DT they have and solidly productive and reliable.

They are not going to give up their best DT for chris brown and will certainly not give up on that high a pick in mid career.He has been a major disappointment in NY.

Don't hold your breath. :rolleyes:


I was thinking more of a conditional pick if possible... not like a 3rd or anything.

I didn't think he had lived up to the hype and certainly their expectations w/ the Jets...
only 8 sacks in 3 years including the playoffs.... I knew he had potential that's what made him interresting to me...
They are the ones in need of a RB, I was just looking at what they would have to be worth Trading them our Starting RB (Brown).


But as this conversation should stop here.... last thing, he's been a disappointment who will count exactly $9,136,660 against the 2006 Salary Cap... is he worth that No, would I want the Titans to have to pay anywhere near that HELL No, especially considering he's signed for 3 more years.

Interresting, Yes?

Robertson is a disappointment primarily because of how high they drafted him. They actually traded up to get him in 2003. He is still the best DT they have..

Tennessee, you understand that robertson's stats are similar to haynesworth right, even better? Albert has 4 sacks the last 2 seasons to robertson's 6.5. And if robertson's 8 career sacks in 3 seasons suck so bad what about haynesworth who has 7.5 in 4 seasons?...

Albert was in on 37 tackles a season with an average of 46 for robertson. Albert has averaged 25 solo tackles a year while robertson has averaged 32.

The one area that haynesworth is superior is knock downs with 10 career vs 1 but robertson is only 6'1 so we can expect that.

I have read that the Jets are looking at TJ Duckett from Atlanta to beef up there RB situation, Squealers too. I doubt they will look to Brown over Duckett. The two just run differently and the Jets do not have the o-line for a Brown type back and the Steelers already have there speed guy.

Robertson is a disappointment primarily because of how high they drafted him. They actually traded up to get him in 2003. He is still the best DT they have..

Tennessee, you understand that robertson's stats are similar to haynesworth right, even better? Albert has 4 sacks the last 2 seasons to robertson's 6.5. And if robertson's 8 career sacks in 3 seasons suck so bad what about haynesworth who has 7.5 in 4 seasons?...

Albert was in on 37 tackles a season with an average of 46 for robertson. Albert has averaged 25 solo tackles a year while robertson has averaged 32.

The one area that haynesworth is superior is knock downs with 10 career vs 1 but robertson is only 6'1 so we can expect that.




:yes: Robertson compiled his numbers in 9 count them 9 more games than what Albert had in that period of time...

Also remember that Robertson makes $9,136,660 Vs. Albert's appx. $ 1,622,919
Point being that the Jets owe this guy a ton of money, for the production that you have pointed out... is he worth that to them or would they be interrested in moving him and some of his hefty price tag is the question..?

And No I do not think Albert sucks, as a matter of fact I want them to keep him for a very very long time... and yes he will be due a pay raise... hopefully not an 8 million dollar pay raise, but definately a raise

Do I really think he could end up w/ the Titans no.

It is really silly because I don't think the Titans will Trade Brown or Henry to the Jets unless it's for a ridiculously good deal...also, Because they(Jets) have very little that would be a feasible upgrade for the current Titans.... i.e. Ellis, Robertson, Vilma - unlikely for Brown, unless for some reason it sounded good to them. :logo:

Thanks for pointing out that robertson is far more durable than albert.. Robertson has played nine more games but has been in the league one year less..

This is not a robertson-albert debate I used those stats for illustrative purposes. I'm illustrating that robertson is too good and too valuable to that team for us to obtain.. You brought up a meaningless sack stat without making any comparasings to anything. You did realize already that some quality DTs don't get a lot of sacks? Sam adams had just 2 sacks in his pro bowl seasons..

What does money have to do with this discussion at all?

:lol: That's all... :closemout nevermind...:lol:



Thanks for the replies Roll... The whole point of the last few posts is that there really are no players the Jets have that the Titans would want that would be exchanged... .... dare I say .... w/o Future Draft Picks being included....
Which Coincidentally is how we got C. Brown AND (gasp) T. Henry ... also How thy NY Football Jets acquired D. Robertson. By trading up. With another team. to pay him $ 9 million +! :ha:




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