View Full Version : I'll Eat My Humble Pie...
KamikaZ 09-10-2006, 02:22 PM Collins has looked awful. I put my trust in the coaching staff and the FO, and they have been proven wrong. The Jets have as average a defense as they come, and our offense has looked awful with Collins in. Billy needs to be given a shot, or give Vince another drive. This was a stupid idea, and I admit that I was wrong on this one. Hopefully the coaching staff realizes this too, and gives BV or VY a shot in the 2nd. Ridiculous...
moose4now 09-10-2006, 02:29 PM Hand the ball to VY and let him go.
This is going to be his team in the future. Sounds like BV wants out, anyway.
Volek is the emergency QB; if he comes in before the 4th quarter, then Vince can't come back in. (Neither can Collins, but that would probably be a good thing.)
wplatham 09-10-2006, 02:40 PM Is it just me, or did the offense just seem to click when Young was in the game? I'm all for handing the reins to Young. I think he can when this game for us.
Don't worry, KamikaZ... remember that Collins has leadership skills and experience, and he has been in a SB and won a conference championship. Volek is just a poor man's Kerry Collins. :sad2:
KamikaZ 09-10-2006, 02:46 PM If Collins come out next series, someone needs to be fired. I'm so serious too.
Slackmaster 09-10-2006, 03:02 PM Sounds like BV wants out, anyway.
After getting the shart from the FO and coaching staff, I can't blame him.
But the KC revolution points out how poor the decision making has been on the "business" side of the team.
They locked out McNair, making him want to leave, and then making Volek wish he were somewhere else, while bringing in a washed up vet to perform worse than Volek, McNair, or even rookie Young, it is difficult for me to care.
TitanKid4Life 09-10-2006, 03:06 PM vince needs to be back in, he moved the ball much better than collins did
zackmann 09-10-2006, 04:50 PM i truly feel that vince gives us the better chance to score points on offense...
Laserjock 09-10-2006, 06:08 PM Why not....I was of the opinion that they do should not throw him to the sharks right out of the gate until he has learned the speed of the game. But with the exception of the long balls, which he appears to be having problems judging and they seem to float, he drives the team and makes good throws. So...I am of the opinion that if we are going to stink it up at least let the VY run the show.
Houston Horn 82 09-10-2006, 10:25 PM Is it just me, or did the offense just seem to click when Young was in the game? I'm all for handing the reins to Young. I think he can when this game for us.
VY moves teams to the red zone, even with 3rd and longs. titan coaches still don't believe, BUT they will. so will the rest of the NFL. VY is the most dangerous player in the NFL and he isn't even playing yet. don't get panties in a wad, same thing happened in high school and college, yet everybody came around.
TitanKid4Life 09-10-2006, 10:30 PM well u would kno, so i hope ur right about this one, and i believe that u are right, because he just sends out this vibe, that they even made a video about on youtube, so i believe its only time until they let him do what he does and he starts to dominate
PhiSlammaJamma 09-10-2006, 10:36 PM mmmmmm, humble pie.
vnomus2 09-10-2006, 10:45 PM Billy Volek needs to be the starter of this team. He has earned the right to get the start. He wasn't given a chance in the preseason. He played one quarter a game. Everyone has a hardon to get Vince in the game. Vince is one hell of a talented athlete, but he is a long way from being a good NFL caliber QB. However, Kerry Collins got dumped in Oakland for Aaron Brooks. That says something about Kerry's diminishing skills. This is Billys team, they trust Billy they want Billy in there so come on Jeffy make the right call. Make # 7 the starter in Miami.
TitanKid4Life 09-10-2006, 10:53 PM u are blind about vince
bigtitan53279 09-10-2006, 11:41 PM vince young needs to be the starter of this team. He has earned the right to get the start. He wasn't given a chance in the preseason. Vince is one hell of a talented athlete, and he is on his way to being a good NFL caliber QB. However, Kerry Collins got dumped in Oakland for Aaron Brooks. That says something about Kerry's diminishing skills. This is vince's team, they trust vince they want vince in there so come on Jeffy make the right call. Make # 10 the starter in Miami.
there you go, fixed it for you :))
TitanKid4Life 09-10-2006, 11:44 PM i would agree with bigtitan
Sukrillux 09-10-2006, 11:54 PM I expected Collins to start today, but I didn't expect him to finish. I knew that they wanted to really bury Volek by putting the 2 week Titan in front of him. They failed in humiliating Volek. They did the exact opposite. I was watching and I was baffled to see Young only get a few reps given the situation. Young showed that he was in a comfortable place in the NFL. I got tickled to see Young bobbing his head as if he was listening to music out there... He brought me back to some of the Texas games. That's Vince Young. It's how he is so relaxed. The Titans would have won that game if Young would have stayed in. I am not saying that he should be the starter yet. He is definitely capable to be a good starter, but he needs to see how a vet (preferably Volek) throws a deep ball. There are a few... only a few... other things that he needs to get down and he will be great. I do know that Volek would have at least had more chemistry with his receivers. Chemistry is 80 to 90 percent of the factor in a 2 minute drill. You have to be able to know what a certain player will do in such a situation. I know that I am either preaching to the choir or the pitchforks, but I think Volek could have won that game for the Titans. Yes, there needed to be more of VY in there, but don't start him yet. He learns quick. He may be ready as soon as the Houston game, but Fish will try to avoid starting him all year IMO. It was nice to see the D step up in certain spots. If it wasn't for them making nice plays resulting in turnovers, this game could have been a shut out. Okay, maybe a couple of Bironas FGs, but nothing more.
Riverman 09-11-2006, 12:05 AM Serve me up a big piece of that pie. I thought Collins would be no worse than Volek and at least demonstrate veterans skills. An intentional grounding in the MIDDLE of the field? 4 balls batted/stuffed back at him by a weak D-Line? Balls thrown away after 1 read? For those of you not at the field- it was ugly. The boos were louder than the cheers until the 4th quarter. Which by the way was an ugly offensive performance except for short yardage situations.
I was wrong. Collins is horrible. I'm ready to throw Chow in there also. He's given us nothng but excuses for 2 years now.
bigtitan53279 09-11-2006, 12:07 AM An intentional grounding in the MIDDLE of the field?
i would argue that was a pretty crappy call.
but i thought it was interesting that collins had all those balls batted down. i thought vince was the one who was supposed to have that happen.
Gunny 09-11-2006, 12:12 AM I really don't get how you can have an intentional throwing 40 yards away.
moose4now 09-11-2006, 12:14 AM However, Kerry Collins got dumped in Oakland for Aaron Brooks. That says something about Kerry's diminishing skills.
Then what does that tell you about Billy Volek's skills when he's (basically) getting dumped for Kerry Collins, the quarteback the Raiders dumped for Aaron Brooks? :rolleyes:
KamikaZ 09-11-2006, 12:15 AM I honestly think that the bridge with Volek and the FO (not the team, just the FO and coaching staff) has been burned. I would not expect him to start next week, even though he deserves another chance over Collins.
moose4now 09-11-2006, 12:20 AM I'd also expect KC to start again next week.
Riverman 09-11-2006, 12:24 AM I really don't get how you can have an intentional throwing 40 yards away.
It was the right call. Collins was in the pocket and no receivers were within 15 yards.:rolleyes:
PhiSlammaJamma 09-11-2006, 12:25 AM I think KC will start next week. Fisher will like that 4th quarter run too much and will ride that legless pony into next week.
Riverman 09-11-2006, 12:26 AM That's such BS. What- Collins led a 1 yard TD drive?
The running game is what sustained the longer drives. We had very few passes on those drives.
I disagree, ball was slightly misdirected by the DL. He was throwing it towards Bennett on a post.
Fisher could not drop the red flag cause it was a judgement call.
The only reason that call could have been made was cause Collins was in the pocket.
That was the call that was like 5 seconds after the end of the play right?
Riverman 09-11-2006, 12:32 AM I disagree, ball was slightly misdirected by the DL. He was throwing it towards Bennett on a post.
Fisher could not drop the red flag cause it was a judgement call.
The only reason that call could have been made was cause Collins was in the pocket.
That was the call that was like 5 seconds after the end of the play right?
I was at the field- the pocket was collapsing and he clearly was dumping the ball. He threw to the middle like a post but Bennett was maybe 15 yards away and had not yet broke in- It was the right call- I saw the whole play. It was a brain fart by our 2 million dollar experienced QB.
I thought the same till I watched the tape.
Looked like the ball was "misdirected" by the DL too me.
Sukrillux 09-11-2006, 12:37 AM I thought the same till I watched the tape.
Looked like the ball was "misdirected" by the DL too me.
That's what I thought too, but I could be wrong. I guess it's just one more penalty for our more experienced players. Hey, maybe it's not such a good thing to have that kind of experience on the team. :lol:
PhiSlammaJamma 09-11-2006, 12:38 AM Kerry Collins will be pummeled by one of those giant Milwaukee's best beers just about any time now.
moose4now 09-11-2006, 12:39 AM That's such BS. What- Collins led a 1 yard TD drive?
Why not put a spin on it this way.
Kerry Collins moved the Titans downfield on a one play TD Drive that led to the eight points that tied the game 16-16. :winker:
PhiSlammaJamma 09-11-2006, 12:45 AM And he didn't audible to an interception.
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