is the worst rule ever. what is a defender supposed to do, give up the td?

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You can grab the jersey, but not the shoulder pads.
It's a good rule, can result in bad knee injuries. Even career ending ones, like Calico's.

it's just another thing that takes the aggression out of the defenders. you're not allowed to touch the golden boys(qb), you cant hit recievers when they go over the middle and now you cant tackle from behind.

it's just another way the league has successfully wussified itself and gives the offense another advantage to score points. we all know if TO didnt get hurt it wouldnt have happened.

lets face it, plays happen to fast to tell whether a player grabbed inside the jeresy or inside the shoulder pads.

I was actually, wondering this when I saw the game saving tackle on the 2 point conversion play by the Vols player yesterday on the Air Force RB. It was very high and was wondering if they have this rule in college.

It was very high and was wondering if they have this rule in college.
nope. they're allowed to play in college.

it was only made because the nfl loves terrell owens so when he got hurt that had to come into effect

it was only made because the nfl loves terrell owens so when he got hurt that had to come into effect

I'd like to see them bring back the clothesline. You never see a good hit anymore. They should just give them the Don Bee Bee cushy helmet and let them smack the crap out of each other again.

I'd like to see them bring back the clothesline. You never see a good hit anymore.Why stop there? Bring back the leather helmet.

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Rule is stupid for me, you could get injured in any way, collar tackles are not just "the main %" for injuries. As a fact an straight tackle to the back knee flexor (or "legpit") is more dangerous.

Crackbacks are illegal too.

Jets got called on one too.

In all fairness, Keith did make a horse collar tackle. He grabbed the back neck of the guy's jersey and pulled him down. However, in his defense, he did what he had to do to bring the guy down and he did it in a way to avoid having the guy's legs injured. If Keith hadn't made the tackle, the guy would have made a TD.

If Keith hadn't made the tackle, the guy would have made a TD.
thats my point.

I could be wrong, here, but I was under the impression that certain criteria had to be met in order for it to be considered a horse collar tackle.

One of the big criteria was that the defender had to land on the ballcarrier's legs. Roy Williams is a perfect example...he'd grab the pads, jump up like he was going to get a piggyback ride, then collapse onto the runner's legs.

One thing I do know....today was the first time I EVER saw a horse-collar flagged. They created the rule last year, but I don't know that anyone ever got called for one. But heck, why should I be surprised? If it wasn't for bad luck, the Titans would have no luck at all.

I think non-QB ballcarries can be taken with a "crackback" tackle without any issue.

The call against the jets was, if I heard the radio correctly, for a jet engaging a Titan below the waist while he was already engaged high.

The call against the jets was, if I heard the radio correctly, for a jet engaging a Titan below the waist while he was already engaged high.

yes thats right.

The call against the jets was, if I heard the radio correctly, for a jet engaging a Titan below the waist while he was already engaged high.

That would be a chop-block (not to be confused with a cut-block).

Btw, we had a rookie NFL referee so that might explain why he was (probably) the first to ever call a horse-collar foul. Might also explain the questionable intentional grounding.

I saw referees call two crackback blocks this weekend...one in the Titans/Jets game, and one during the Jags/Cowboys games.

In both instances, the WR was coming in to block a linebacker from the side and went for his knees. It's one thing to block a guy low, but the crackback block is pretty dirty....someone could easily end up getting injured.