Yeah letting #9 go was really what we needed to do and just let him go to the Ravens. Waiting until the very last moment to get Kerry Collins was another great move. Yeah this franchise is headed in the right direction all right. Can anyone say top 5 draft pick next year?

#9 shouldn't have started talking retirement two years ago if he didn't mean it. Take that, followed by a couple of bad years and it's time for a change. He looks great now, but he's on a lot better team than he was here too. Sometimes change is good. It is for him...

We couldn't afford him anyway, not without prolonging the crap we're experiencing now for an additional 2-3 years.

The difference between us and the Patriots or the Colts is the difference between Floyd Reese and Bill Polian or the Pats GM.

IMO it was best to let him go, a good example of that is Green Bay- They can't begin to rebuild until they begin to groom the next starter..
we began rebuilding last year and with that unfortunatly we lost our leader Mcnair, sometimes you can't step forward without taking a couple steps back, I hate the ratbirds but I wish Steve the best.. eventually every team in this league has to do it.. hopefully we can just get through the growing pains as fast as possible...

"top five draft pick," says Bipolar... oh and
YOU'RE WRONG.
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You couldn't be more wrong.:cry: :cry:

take your salary cap hell like a man.:eek:

We couldn't have gotten the FAs we did if we kept steve... He won't look good all year, you'll see...

doesnt anyone recall last year, with basically throwing to tight ends, and running backs, Mcnair had 16 touchdowns and nearly 2500 yards passing with a college style offense in one of the toughest divisons in football. Yeah we picked up a few scrappy free agents I do think David Thornton will be a good addition but not good enough to get rid of one of the top quaterbacks in the NFL. I just think this franchise has no idea what it is doing. I really hope im wrong.

I got to agree with Titans25 at the minute.. nothing I see/hear/read makes me think there's a precise strategy, and I'm worried like hell about all this Bud Adams wants Young to get on the field stuff..
I always trusted in Fisher.. but you know..
That said.. all it takes is a good couple of games from VY, even Collins, and an injury to McNair and it'll look better
I expect Jevon to go and burn up the NFL when he left.. but haven't heard that much.... ...

Obviously I mean expectED... christ, it's late over here!

doesnt anyone recall last year, with basically throwing to tight ends, and running backs, Mcnair had 16 touchdowns and nearly 2500 yards passing with a college style offense in one of the toughest divisons in football. Yeah we picked up a few scrappy free agents I do think David Thornton will be a good addition but not good enough to get rid of one of the top quaterbacks in the NFL. I just think this franchise has no idea what it is doing. I really hope im wrong.

one of the toughest divisions?

you mean the division where we finished with 4 wins and had another fellow division team with LESS wins? That isn't tough.

McNair doesn't have to look good in Baltimore, he just doesnt have to make mistakes as long as the defense and Jamal Lewis can play well.

one of the toughest divisions?

you mean the division where we finished with 4 wins and had another fellow division team with LESS wins? That isn't tough.

McNair doesn't have to look good in Baltimore, he just doesnt have to make mistakes as long as the defense and Jamal Lewis can play well.
we also had the team that had the best record in the regular season, and the afc is known for being much stronger than the nfc

so what if we had the team with the best record?

Combined wins, the AFC South was 3rd in front of the AFC West. And around 5th or 6th in the whole NFL.

This thread is started with a ridiculous premise.
Idiotic balderdash.

Let it die peacefully.

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Never!

You can take it to the bank the Mcnair will get injured behind that sub-average Raven O-line and/or start missing practices per the Mcnair norm and it will be the same-ole Mac-mess for the Ravens that the Titans have dealt with the last couple of years..

Mac threw 1 TD

..but had two fumbles.

Yeah letting #9 go was really what we needed to do and just let him go to the Ravens. Waiting until the very last moment to get Kerry Collins was another great move. Yeah this franchise is headed in the right direction all right. Can anyone say top 5 draft pick next year?

TC25 Where did you come from? With that kind of post you wont last long. Remember kickers go early, Steve Sucked and the titans are ready to win now.

I havnt seen a team so ready to implode since, hmm well the raiders last night and ohh green bay on sunday.

Yah I would hate to have Steve driving 80 yards on 14 plays on the first possession, grooming the young-stud and offering a glimmer of hope to this nosediving team.

Here is my confusion - what did Billy do to get in so much trouble with this team? I dont really understand a single move this team has made.

Letting Mac go was a decent idea. The fact we had the #3 pick and could pick our future QB sealed the deal. Of course typically you would think having the #3 pick is a once in a decade or more opportunity but if we don't start playing better we might get another shot.

With the play of Green Bay and the Faiders I think we are defiantly not getting a #1.

People act like we just kicked McNair out onto the curb. I think the Titans organization really wanted him here, but they were unable to settle things contractually. I know the whole thing about the facillity lockout looked bad, but that was a result of the stalemate at which they had already arrived. Maybe McNair looked into his crystal ball and saw the future of this franchise and simply decided he didn't wan't to be a part of it. He had to know where we were headed, and he probably would like to have a shot at one of those rings before he retires. His shot is certainly much better in Baltimore this year than it would be here.
Remember... if McNair had really wanted to finish his career here in Nashville he could have made it happen.

This thread is started with a ridiculous premise.
Idiotic balderdash.

Let it die peacefully.


Bravo!!:logo: :logo: :logo:

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Never!

Well I agree with the previous post about what did Volek do to get in the dog house exactly he is not exactly a superstar but he does know the offense a bit better than Collins who arrived only 10 days ago. My main point was in this discussion with Mcnair he knew our offense better than anyone and whom better for V to get behind and watch than someone with similar style and the like. Mcnair had no one absolutly no one to throw to last year and still had a decent year for Mac. Another year with a slightly better offensive tools would have been better. Instead we let him go without really trying to keep him and get absolutly nothing for him. He now is with the Ravens and even though after one game and it is just one game they went to a playoff team from last years home and blanked em 27-0. and The Buccs were known to have a pretty solid defense last several years even in the NFC. Instead we have a thrown together team at the last minute and we can only watch and see what happens cause I dont think anyone has a clue what or where this franchise is heading. If anyone does please let me know thank you.

I always have such a hard time taking this cat seriously. Here he is saying McNair is worthless.
Who did that Titans have last year on offense that was worth anything 0 no body.

http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showpost.php?p=159061&postcount=5

so what's that all about then? are you one of those emotinal types like me that tells players that rub you the wrong way to "kiss your butt"? You know you are flakin' when you draw out "the official hater". He reads everything and posts on... well, stuff like this. It was a failed marriage dude. Wrap this around your head: Keeping McNair would hurt us more. I don't have to defend that statement. There are 1000 posters that will do it for me. McNair is better off. We are hurting, sure, but in the long run... just trust me little buddy, keeping McNair would have been a mistake. That's just the way it is. You don't have to like it, but the sooner you get around to accepting it, the better off you will be.

It's one of those things, where you look at your qb, and it looks like he is in decline, and so you send him away, only to realize you goofed like you did with Warren Moon, and repeated your mistake, and you realize even with the declining stats, he was a successful starting qb in the nfl for a reason, and that sometimes its the intangibles that make a qb, and that you are lucky if you ever do find that in the draft. Lucky. You look over at you new stud on the sideline with the golden clipboard, and wonder, does he have any intangibles. I hope he does, but does he. Then you remember the rose bowl. Should be ok. But you also realize that at some point you have to move on, and you have a rookie qb on your roster, and your veteran is refusing to hand the torch, so you just do it. And it hurts. Cause that veteran still has those intangibles, and you see him show them on the field, and he makes a pro bowl or two without you, and your transition qb is exactly what everyone thought he was, a regular joe with no intangibles. You give a cool nickname, but it means nothing, And it is what it is, and you hit yourself on the head, and say, yeah, I should've known, he's always been kind of a regular joe, why didn't I see it. And then you put your stud rookie in and start all over again. Is he a starting qb? Does he have those intangibles?

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But with McNair in Tennessee, he would have to try and win games himself.

In Baltimore, with a strong defense and running game, he just doesnt have to make mistakes and doesn't have to take the game on his shoulders.

But with McNair in Tennessee, he would have to try and win games himself.

In Baltimore, with a strong defense and running game, he just doesnt have to make mistakes and doesn't have to take the game on his shoulders.
I'd love to see RollTide tell you how wrong you are there. He's worse than that SNL Chris Mathews parody when it comes to dissent.
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Tell me where I'm wrong.:ha:

McNair wanted too much $$, and I'm sure the day he decided to ask for a trade was when he realized his health was in danger from that garbage OL we have. And with a GM who thinks picking Michael Roos way too early, over guys like Lofa Tatupu and Odell Thurman, all this after taking Pacman over Rolle or Merriman, is a good move to solve this team's woes, it's time to go. Simple as that...

hindsight is 20/20 :rolleyes:

hardly anyone wanted a midget CB/PR guy at 1.6.

. And with a GM who thinks picking Michael Roos way too early, over guys like Lofa Tatupu and Odell Thurman, all this after taking Pacman over Rolle or Merriman, is a good move to solve this team's woes, it's time to go. Simple as that...
rolle is going to be moved to FS next year. i watched his game against the 49er's, he was pretty bad in man to man coverage. odell thurman is serving a four game suspension for breaking the substance abuse policy.

merriman...well...yeah.

You know you are flakin' when you draw out "the official hater". He reads everything and posts on... well, stuff like this. It was a failed marriage dude. Wrap this around your head: Keeping McNair would hurt us more. I don't have to defend that statement. There are 1000 posters that will do it for me. McNair is better off. We are hurting, sure, but in the long run... just trust me little buddy, keeping McNair would have been a mistake. That's just the way it is. You don't have to like it, but the sooner you get around to accepting it, the better off you will be.

Im glad that I have made an impact on your memory and im still under 200 posts, I thought with 5000+ posts you would have very little time for reading. And your reading me all wrong. It was the time for mac to go, im happy he gets to play for a TEAM. But you are right about one thing I dont have to like it, and I dont. This team is not better off right now, and Vince will not be better off having learned interception techniques from KC. How bad does it look when the Radiers wont keep Collins, but we not only sign him up but start him with two weeks of camp. Face the music, we suck and the leadership is falling on its face. That's just the way it is. You don't have to like it, but the sooner you get around to accepting it, the better off you will be.

Hey pal, I don't have all the answers and I wasn't reading you. I was just stating my opinion. Of course we are not better off now. I said in the long run. Also, don't make ridiculous judgements about me. You should know better by now that it was impossible to get Young and McNair both in house. You should also know that McNair would have been screwed by such an arrangement. Not to mention the cap implications and the crippling of any ability to sign FA's. You know just as well as I do that it is as simple as a case of rock and hard place. Smile and have a Coke. :thumb:

Sure Pally! No problem, I guess ill just keep my comments to things you want to talk about and things YOU agree with. You sure like to dish it out but have a hard time taking it. What are you so offended by, that i made a comment about how many posts youve made, WOW i sure did take you task with that one, following the "flake" comment drawing me out, wrap my head around this and what i read and post on. IF you dont like this thread and you dont like me, then find a new thread. You fired the first shots and now want to act like im attacking you.
Hey MR 5000, if your going to run your fingers that much and take shots at other peoples posts, get some thicker skin.

Pretty simple really...........
"Yep Letting Mac go was best for the titans................... "

Yes! it was.

McNair wanted too much $$, and I'm sure the day he decided to ask for a trade was when he realized his health was in danger from that garbage OL we have. And with a GM who thinks picking Michael Roos way too early, over guys like Lofa Tatupu and Odell Thurman, all this after taking Pacman over Rolle or Merriman, is a good move to solve this team's woes, it's time to go. Simple as that...

First of all Roos was an excellant pick. We got what looks like a solid LT in the second round. Roos might be the biggest bright spot on the OL. Watch the guy play. He is good. He is alot better than Gallery for the Raiders who was picked #2 in the draft the year before. Actually with all the heat Reese takes with some of his picks Roos is one of the best ones.

Secondly we desperately needed a CB. We lost Rolle and Dyson and we know how Woolfolk has turned out. IMO of the three top CBs in that draft Pacman is the best of the bunch.

Thirdly Merriman is better suited for a 3-4 defense. Although I'm sure he would make a decent 4-3 DE or LB the 3-4 really allows him to show off his ability more than our defense would. I do agree that the DEs we took, 2 in the second round and one in the 4th have not played as well as Reese would hope. Two picks after the LaBoy pick Indy picked up Bob Sanders who would look real nice in a Titans uni right now.

He looks great now, but he's on a lot better team than he was here too.He had one good drive on Sunday (the 1st). After that he did nothing.

Sure Pally! No problem, I guess ill just keep my comments to things you want to talk about and things YOU agree with. You sure like to dish it out but have a hard time taking it. What are you so offended by, that i made a comment about how many posts youve made, WOW i sure did take you task with that one, following the "flake" comment drawing me out, wrap my head around this and what i read and post on. IF you dont like this thread and you dont like me, then find a new thread. You fired the first shots and now want to act like im attacking you.
Hey MR 5000, if your going to run your fingers that much and take shots at other peoples posts, get some thicker skin.
I don't know what you are taling about with all this above here man. Just get over it. McNair is gone and our team is no longer what it was. You haven't offended me in the least. You sure take my comments to TC pretty personally. Your post is hilarious man. It's too bad I know you are not the type to keep it light and joke around. Guess what? I don't care. I fired shots huh? hahahaha :eek: attacking me, eh? Go get a cup of coffee out or something. I think reading every single post on the forum is affecting you adversely. Seriously though, if you think the F.O. should have passed on Young and done what it would have taken to get McNair to stay... well, I'd come up with something really cute, but all I can think of is "you couldn't be more wrong." Thicker skin? hahaha This post is still cracking me up... If I'm not upset at anything anyone has said, why am I the guy that needs thicker skin? I'm not the one crying :cry: for the bygone past... McNair and all... keep hatin' hater guy... It's what you do. Who am I to stand in your way?:kiss:

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mmm... it does go well with the chicken. Delicious again Peter.

I wonder if vegas has a line on McNair being hurt/missing practice I suspect one could get odds if you were inclinded toward it. My personal prediction is week 7, and on a related note I also have C. Brown going down/missing action more than normal(sarcasm) by week 7 also. Could be the perfect juice situation.

Thats a great graphic, luv the hater tots!!! You might want to try reading more than the first line of my posts... I just got done posting it WAS time for Steve to leave. AND, we are not better off for it, But Steve is. He will play for a better team, and we get to suffer through collins. Where did I ever say we should pass on Young? I think your confused. Would you really rather have Collins mentor Young OR have Steve finish his carreer as a Titan and get Vince ready at the same time. This thread is titled "Yep Letting Mac go was best for the titans..................." not "we will be better in the long run" and I would take issue with that as well. So after yesterdays game you would still rather have Collins as your starting QB then Steve? Come on now you can be honest, its ok to agree with the hater on occasion. I think you are the secret hater around here. But ill try to keep that between us.

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McNair wanted too much $$, and I'm sure the day he decided to ask for a trade was when he realized his health was in danger from that garbage OL we have. And with a GM who thinks picking Michael Roos way too early, over guys like Lofa Tatupu and Odell Thurman, all this after taking Pacman over Rolle or Merriman, is a good move to solve this team's woes, it's time to go. Simple as that...
roos handled merriman yesterday.

Fisher never gave Billy Volek a chance ,last preseason game
he had 1 play ,checked off 54 yds for a td but we have to
suffer thru collins when we have 2 better qbs on the bench.

Sure was smart to just boot a League MVP quaterback who had given his body to this franchise and taken us this franchise higher then it ever has before and have basically no one to go with at this point. Yep just let him leave and get absolutly nothing for him and while were at it just lock him out of the facility. While were at it lets just go ahead and let go of Keith Bulluck and let him find out about it in the paper!!!! Hes over his prime anyway he always get faked on a bootleg and just whiffs tackles so lets just let him go to maybe to the Ravens.

KB would be happy to hang out with Mase and Rolle. Its not new news how Bud deals with players, Earl heard he was traded on the radio! I hope it gets better soon, they are going to bed with KC, hope he looks good in the morning.

Where did I ever say we should pass on Young? Would you really rather have Collins mentor Young OR have Steve finish his carreer as a Titan and get Vince ready at the same time? So after yesterdays game you would still rather have Collins as your starting QB then Steve?
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Wow. Your post makes me wet. I like that graphic. I've always known never to really screw with you but damn, that looks like it took some time. This is some Luke meets Anakin **** right here, America.;) Out of respect, I'll answer your questions and keep my rebuttles to some of your comments to myself. I don't think you ever said that we should pass on Vince Young. I am of the school of thought (now, despite posts from late winter and spring) that says McNair and Young could not realistically be on the same roster for a number of reasons I feel unnecessary to enumerate here. Yes, I would rather have Steve be here instead of Collins and have Young be our guy all at the same time but it became apparent a while back that scenario just was not feasable. The only shot we ever had of keeping McNair was to go with another position in the draft, which I feel would not be best for our long term perspective. I don't believe I ever stated that I would rather have Collins starting instead of McNair. I think I'd rather have anyone that does not take 25% of the big enchilada with his cap number though. To me, that is what it boils down to and that is why I posted that wordless post picturing a pile of cash. In fact, I'm not really sure what you disagree with me about, but I must admit you are entertaining.

Thanks for the props... I am starting to think that everytime we cant keep a player with a team, the FO uses the too expensive excuse. Maybe its just me, but I would rather have signed Mcnair, and offered less to Young. Proven commodity vrs an unknown. (what if that causes a hold out? wouldnt be the first time and you would have steve to run things and urge the kid to come in) It was the FOs mistake in handling our veteran leader that set the tone and got us into deep water. Are we going to go through this again, after spending years grooming Vince, Will the FO piss him off and loose a chance to even negotiate a deal when another team comes calling. As far as taking shots at each other - I liked the "Flaking" and "Drawing out the hater" comments so much - I had to jump in & stir it up. I named my self the official hater after getting into a typing match previouosly. The other poster kept saying I was hater because i had posted negative comments about a player they liked. Actually, I almost always side with the players, so "hater" couldnt be further from the truth, but now its my badge of honer. I also dont read the boards at all in the off season, I browse here in there during the season too see what people are thinking. Invariable everytime I post some thing I get some interesting responses. Maybe its because im the hater. My sarcasm tends to heat thing up.