SUMMARY: Despite criticism of his game Sunday, many Titans players are coming to the defense of QB Kerry Collins. "The errant throws that he had in the game, the few that he had, there was a guy right in his face or someone with a hand against his helmet or something like that," WR Drew Bennett said. "It is not fair to pin it on Kerry." Coach Fisher says there is not QB controversy and that Collins will start Sunday and beyond. "Kerry Collins could have had a similar game, but if we made a couple of more plays on defense, or didn't give up a couple of plays, he could be a hero today," said LB Keith Bulluck.

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dang even the players are starting to sound like Fisher..woulda,shoulda coulda

"The errant throws that he had in the game, the few that he had, there was a guy right in his face or someone with a hand against his helmet or something like that," WR Drew Bennett said. "It is not fair to pin it on Kerry." Bennett should have said, "Don't let my stats fool you. You can pin this loss on me. The drop on the opening drive was huge. We had a great drive going until I screwed it up. My effort on the deep sideline pass that was intercepted by someone three feet shorter than me was a disgrace. I'm embarrassed by my continued inconsistancy"

blame Teflon, they ruined Drews hands.

Kerry will never be a hero on the Titans.

With a little luck he will be "lost for the season" and the healing can begin.

Yeah, blaming the coach is like cussing your boss. A quick trip to a desk cleaning.

Bennett should have said, "Don't let my stats fool you. You can pin this loss on me. The drop on the opening drive was huge. We had a great drive going until I screwed it up. My effort on the deep sideline pass that was intercepted by someone three feet shorter than me was a disgrace. I'm embarrassed by my continued inconsistancy"

So now one drop scewed up the whole game? The int at first looked like a lack of effort but when I saw a replay from a different angle it was obviously out of Bennett's range. How about Bennetts fantastic catch in the last drive? I'm not defending Bennett completely but he didn't lose the game for the Titans. The best player on the field Sunday for the Titans was Nugent. Without his inconsistency we wouldn't be trying to pin this lose on one dropped pass.

Don't you know that it was collins' vet leadership and experience that intimidated the opposing kicker to miss three times? Football is a mental game!

Brian's attempt to make this a blame drew discussion will never hold water. Collins sucked and every knows that except jeff fisher.


Jeff fisher is an idiot!

You are welcome to leave Roll. No one is forcing you to be a fan.

The best player on the field Sunday for the Titans was Nugent. Without his inconsistency we wouldn't be trying to pin this lose on one dropped pass.

Correct.

Everyone should try and not just look at the Final Score of the game. The game wasn't that close. The Jets may have been just as inept as we were on Sunday. But, the only reason we were in that game was that they were as inept as we were.

But, their miskakes came in the scoring zone.

And, that made the game close.

Gunny, why should he have to leave? there are a lot of people of this board who say things others don't like. You can put him on ignore if you don't like what he says. Wouldn't surprise me to know that I am on some people's list..does it bother me..Nope

You are welcome to leave Roll. No one is forcing you to be a fan.

Actually I am. I have his cat at gun point.

Titans fan or the cat gets it!

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Gunny, why should he have to leave? there are a lot of people of this board who say things others don't like. You can put him on ignore if you don't like what he says. Wouldn't surprise me to know that I am on some people's list..does it bother me..Nope

because he is more troll then fan.

this sucks, that sucks, this guy sucks, that guy sucks. bla bla bla.

If he were a fan of another team coming in here saying the exact same thing it would be straight to the smack forum.

It still amazes me how passionate some in this forum are over the Collins vs. Volek debate. To me it would be like Houston Oilers fans back in 1994 getting all hot and bothered over who should be starting... Bucky Richardson or Billy Joe Tolliver.

Much ado about nothing.

Quick...everyone jump onto the sword!

Don't act like a fool i am a fan that's tired of losing games. Obviously you don't care if this team goes 4-12 again but i do.

A real fan would be outraged at how this team has played for the last 33 games.


Unless you are getting financial compensation from fisher to defend every thing he does(lamely) you might want to get with the program and pretend that your tired of this crap! I sure am!


Jeff fisher is an idiot!:moon2:

That bag head at the end of his posts is not nice! Kick him out!


Note that the fans apparently have the same opinion of collins that i have. They booed him! I said he shouldn't start! The gunny opinion that fisher is the best coach ever is the minority opinion.

Gunny is just mad that i cleaned his clock on another thread.

At least be a man about it.:moon2: :sad2:

Actually the players are right in that it wasn't Collin's fault. The blame is squarely on the coaching staff.

Take it easy on Gunny Tide. He is just a child
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Everybody can point fingers all they want, but imo, the problem is.....
AMANO, EUGENE
AMATO, KEN
BELL, JACOB
BENNETT, DREW
BIRONAS, ROB
BOCKWOLDT
BROWN, CHRIS
BULLUCK, KEITH
COLLINS, KERRY
CRAMER, CASEY
FINNEGAN, CORTLAND
FULLER, VINCENT
GIVENS, DAVID
HALL, AHMARD
HAYNESWORTH, ALBERT
HENRY, TRAVIS
HENTRICH, CRAIG
HILL, REYNALDO
HOPE, CHRIS
JONES, BRANDON
JONES, PACMAN
KING, ERIC
KINNEY, ERRON
LABOY, TRAVIS
LOPER, DANIEL
LOWRY, CALVIN
MAHELONA, JESSE
MAWAE, KEVIN
NICKEY, DONNIE
ODOM, ANTWAN
OLSON, BENJI
ORR, JONATHAN
PILLER, ZACH
REYNOLDS, ROBERT
ROBY, COURTNEY
ROOS, MICHAEL
SAVAGE, JOSH
SCAIFE, BO
SIRMON, PETER
SMITH, ROBAIRE
STARKS, RANDY
STEWART, DAVID
THOMPSON, LAMONT
THORNTON, DAVID
TROUPE, BEN
TULLOCH, STEPHEN
VANDEN BOSCH, KYLE
VOLEK, BILLY
WADDELL, MICHAEL
WADE, BOBBY
WHITE, LENDALE
WILLIAMS, ROYDELL
WOOLFOLK, ANDRE
YOUNG, VINCE
Norm Chow
Jim Schwartz
Matt Burke
Chuck Cecil
Marty Galbraith
Craig Johnson
Alan Lowry
Dave McGinnis
Mike Munchak
Sherman Smith
Ray Sherman
Jim Washburn
Steve Watterson
Everett Withers
John Zernhelt
K.S. Adams, Jr.
Nancy N. Adams
Steve Underwood
Jeff Fisher
Don MacLachlan
Floyd Reese
It's a team problem. not one person is excluded from this list. Everybody needs to get their head out their :moon: and do what their paid to do.

Remember the Richard Matheson Twilight Zone where the gambler won every hand? He was in hell..
Remember it takes some bad seasons to appreciate the good ones...

Well OK this is THREE bad seasons now and this is the real hell!

Gunny is one of the few people on the board that's trying to stay positive. He doesn't stoop to personal attacks on board members who don't agree with his opinion either.

How'd that irony stuff work out for you? Went a bit quiet for a while didn't you Roll, thought we'd lost you :moon2:

You are welcome to leave Roll. No one is forcing you to be a fan.

Seems like Gunny is the one with the "personal" attack. Asking a poster to leave because they state their opinion is ridiculous. The players and coaches are fair game for attacks but not posters IMO. Bashing Fisher is no different than bashing Bennett for his drops or the continuous bashing of Brown because he can't stay healthy. Still the comeback if a poster doesn't agree should state reasons outside of asking the poster to leave.

Seems like Gunny is the one with the "personal" attack. Asking a poster to leave because they state their opinion is ridiculous. The players and coaches are fair game for attacks but not posters IMO. Bashing Fisher is no different than bashing Bennett for his drops or the continuous bashing of Brown because he can't stay healthy. Still the comeback if a poster doesn't agree should state reasons outside of asking the poster to leave.

be fair now. Do not run to rescue RollTide then take a blind eye to the attacks he has made on Gunny. Both are slinging mud.

Gunny...

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Disagreement with you is like a stick of butter fighting with a buzz saw. What is your lame point anyway? (http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showpost.php?p=199873&postcount=37)
-RT

Your opinion on this matter would be greatly appreciated but i doubt you summon up the courage to have one. Very much like gunny i'm afraid to say. (http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showpost.php?p=197801&postcount=159)

-RT

What you don't see is that both your glasses are at the same level. Half empty or half full you are both Titans fans.

Bennett should have said, "Don't let my stats fool you. You can pin this loss on me. The drop on the opening drive was huge. We had a great drive going until I screwed it up. My effort on the deep sideline pass that was intercepted by someone three feet shorter than me was a disgrace. I'm embarrassed by my continued inconsistancy""I need to do my part by catching every pass that is thrown my way. I dropped a big one early on. I thought about it last night and today when we were watching the film review. But during the game, you have to let it go. If you dwell on it, you’re going to drop another one. It’s frustrating, and it’s something I’ll have to work on this week. I think too many people are making Kerry Collins the scapegoat for our loss"

Close enough.

I know that I have "personally attacked" a poster on this forum recently, but I apologize. They have about as much to do with the direction of this team that I do. Say what you want about me, but I still think that the right thing to do would have been to start Volek Sunday and maybe the next two weeks until Collins learns all of his wide receiver's names and the playbook. It's clear that Fisher has screwed up the Volek led team that they have worked on throughout the off-season. Now he has screwed up the first game by starting an experienced vet that is extremely inexperienced with this team. Yes, Collins made some good passes the other day and with the help of the run game scored a TD. I do believe that Volek could have done better with 6 years of team experience. I am tired of talking about this subject over and over again, but only half can see what could have been with Volek and the other half want to give the first half of the season to a learning QB and let the losses fall where they may. If Collins goes into this Sunday's game and tears up the Chargers defense with bullet passes and a laser arm, so be it. I will be glad for the Titans. I will finally get to cheer at the end of the game. Then, they had better trade Volek or let him find a team elsewhere through free agency. After treating him like they did, it makes no sense to hold on to him...

Sorry to do this to you RT but you have slung some hate at some people and no one but me seems to remember this post. I was bashing Collins for good or bad and you came back at me with this:

Why #9?

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We got collins as a stop gap backup in case volek goes down. The raiders got him as their franchise QB.

He came a lot cheaper for us then he did for them. We almost got him for nothing.

We got a backup QB who has started 150 nfl games. What the hell? He has more career TDs than ints and actually made a pro bowl once and led a team to a super bowl.

He has playoff experience and actually won more games than he lost in the post season.

It's all a matter of perspective. As a starter he is maybe the 25th-30th best QB but he is one of the better backups. We are paying chump change and didn't give up anything for him.

Good move...

link (http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showpost.php?p=194145&postcount=31)

which is it? Or did that first appearance make it obvious why he sucks?

http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showthread.php?t=21074

Group hug !!! Everything will be alright and the team will make a comeback. I know this is true cuz Fish said it.


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I did briefly feel sorry for Collins when he was getting booed, and the
Volek!Volek!Volek! chants were being sung...after he was intercepted...

Was that the INT that Bennett gave up on or the other one? I really don't have a problem with people booing. Aside from the fact, that they look like jack-asses and all it really does is make your team play worse, I think it's great. Keep it up Volek fans!!! Some of these people act like Fisher is benching Terry Bradshaw or something! It's freaking Billy Volek people! Get over it! He's never been starting materiel and he still isn't.

Was that the INT that Bennett gave up on or the other one? I really don't have a problem with people booing. Aside from the fact, that they look like jack-asses and all it really does is make your team play worse, I think it's great. Keep it up Volek fans!!! Some of these people act like Fisher is benching Terry Bradshaw or something! It's freaking Billy Volek people! Get over it! He's never been starting materiel and he still isn't.

It is all about getting a WIN! People would have cheered madly if Collins had gotten the win. But unfortunately for him, he didn't and he looked bad.

Most of the fans chanting Volek would have immediately become Collins fans after the first series if he had not have looked so rusty and confused.

It doesn't help when guys like Bennett, Troupe, and Brown are dropping everything...

It doesn't help when guys like Bennett, Troupe, and Brown are dropping everything...
Maybe they're dropping Collins passes because they're not used to his throws.

That's what camps and preseason is do, let the recievers get used to the type of ball the QB throws, his speed, english, etc.

Fisher deserves the boo's, for making our season opener a preseason game for Collins and the receivers to work on their timing, INSTEAD of putting the best QB in to give us a chance to win.

It doesn't help when guys like Bennett, Troupe, and Brown are dropping everything...

No it doesn't. Even worse, it doesn't help Collins' case when he comes in with only 3 weeks to work out some rapport and he is thrown in front of 65,000 fans that haven't seen over 3 home wins in a year.

... 65,000 fans .
We had 69,000 there Sunday. :cool:

Maybe they're dropping Collins passes because they're not used to his throws.

I noticed a couple of the drops players looking at there hands and then back at Collins like they were not expecting so much mustard on the ball or something. I think with Volek we probably would have been in the game and would have scored before the 4th.

The timing was my main concern. It just seems like in the future analysts will use our team as an example of what not to do to motivate a team to win. Players are coming out to defend Collins but less then a week ago they were asking Volek "are they really doing this to you?". And Fisher is out saying we are not here to play to Voleks feelings we are here to win. Did he really think that Collins with that little practice was our best chance to win. The entire situation is mind boggling.

It doesn't help when guys like Bennett, Troupe, and Brown are dropping everything...

What did you expect? You were one of many people bashing Volek because he "supposedly" had a poor preseason and how the Titans always suck when Volek is the starting QB. Now that Collins starts and looks bad, suddenly it's the fault of the OL, players dropping passes, no running game and the inability of the D to stop the pass. It's almost as if the Titans didn't have any of these problems until the minute poor Collins started the game. Give me a break. McNair faced the same issues last year and so did Volek in preseason, but I guess it was easier to simply say that Volek sucked and blame everything on him.

Collins looked lost and slow out there. He had the same expression Neo had when Morpheus explained him what the Matrix was. He will probably improve with more practice time, but it was simply a bad coaching move to start a washed up QB that had less than two weeks of practice. Don't be discourage, though, it will probably be much worse this sunday.

What did you expect? You were one of many people bashing Volek because he "supposedly" had a poor preseason and how the Titans always suck when Volek is the starting QB. Now that Collins starts and looks bad, suddenly it's the fault of the OL, players dropping passes, no running game and the inability of the D to stop the pass. It's almost as if the Titans didn't have any of these problems until the minute poor Collins started the game. Give me a break. McNair faced the same issues last year and so did Volek in preseason, but I guess it was easier to simply say that Volek sucked and blame everything on him.
Forget about the pre-season then... What about last year? and the year before that? and before that? Keep on going.... I was simply stating what I and everybody else saw on Sunday. Volek has been bad for years not just this year. Remember the Bengals at home last year? What about the Arizona game..... He's always been bad. Sure Collins is going to face some of the same problems that Volek did. Let's face it, our team isn't very good.
I still don't think Volek would've have done as well as Collins. Volek is a choker. He's choked in almost every close game he's ever been in as a pro. I wouldn't look for things to change any time soon.


Collins looked lost and slow out there. He had the same expression Neo had when Morpheus explained him what the Matrix was.

He looked lost after Bennett let that goose egg go between his hands while going across the middle. As did I.

Was that the INT that Bennett gave up on or the other one? I really don't have a problem with people booing. Aside from the fact, that they look like jack-asses and all it really does is make your team play worse, I think it's great. Keep it up Volek fans!!! Some of these people act like Fisher is benching Terry Bradshaw or something! It's freaking Billy Volek people! Get over it! He's never been starting materiel and he still isn't.
:lol2:

Timing and being used to the QBs passes...anyone remember Volek to Jones against Green Bay....hey im not all against collins, but clearly he wasnt quite 100% comfotable in our offense and with his recievers, i would have put Volek in and see what he could do for us...and then when we were by the goal line put Vince in...who knows but thats just my opinion...and hey guys can't we all just get along?! We're fellow Titans fans and if you aren't a fan im sure you're welcome here just dont bash other members...and if you arent a fan i dont know why you would be here anyway but hey who knows

Seems like Gunny is the one with the "personal" attack. Asking a poster to leave because they state their opinion is ridiculous.

Asking somebody to leave because they are basically trolling and possibly hasn't said anything positive in three years is not a personal attack. It is a suggestion.
:sad2:

A real fan would be outraged at how this team has played for the last 33 games.

Roll, don't talk to me about being a real fan.

I don't see you getting up at 3am to listen (or watch) the Titans. Then again I suppose these days sleep is becoming more neccessary for those old bones.

And a real fan doesn't get his hard ons by bashing the team.

The gunny opinion that fisher is the best coach ever is the minority opinion.

Quote me where I have ever said that.

Oh wait, you can't because I never said it.

Once again RollTide resorts to BS to make a point.
Typical Tide speak :rolleyes:

Take it easy on Gunny Tide. He is just a child
note: the "Reynaldology - Spread the word of the one true faith.
- Click here to reach enlightenment
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Sorry fun police. :sad2:

I guess over the last century you haven't gotten a sense of humour
:sad2:

"I need to do my part by catching every pass that is thrown my way. I dropped a big one early on. I thought about it last night and today when we were watching the film review. But during the game, you have to let it go. If you dwell on it, you’re going to drop another one. It’s frustrating, and it’s something I’ll have to work on this week. I think too many people are making Kerry Collins the scapegoat for our loss"

Close enough.


lol

I see he didn't mention his lack of heart on the Dyson INT where he gave up on the play.

Forget about the pre-season then... What about last year? and the year before that? and before that? Keep on going.... I was simply stating what I and everybody else saw on Sunday. Volek has been bad for years not just this year. Remember the Bengals at home last year? What about the Arizona game..... He's always been bad.

Am I having a deja vu or what? You bashed Volek on another thread stating all kind of things that weren't true. I thought you realized that. But here you are again, making up the same things that are simply not true. Apparently you dislike this guy with a passion, so I'm not going stand between that.

Let's face it, our team isn't very good.

ummm, ok. I'm going to assume that you just realized that. Better later than never.

I still don't think Volek would've have done as well as Collins. Volek is a choker. He's choked in almost every close game he's ever been in as a pro. I wouldn't look for things to change any time soon.

Volek was in two close games in the '03 season - the last season when games actually meant something for the Titans. They won both of those games.

He looked lost after Bennett let that goose egg go between his hands while going across the middle. As did I.

So what is your point? Are you saying that Collins overall performance is the result of one drop pass?

Exactly what kind of defense were they throwing out there for Collins, we might be able to use it. Was it a 4-3?

My comment on Collins is that he was hot and cold. I wasn't near as drunk as I have been at prior games, but there were a few where he looked like a real pro. I thought that ad-lib shuffle pass forward was pretty cool. I hated that one he fired at the Jets sideline about 8 feet over everyones head. I posted before the game that I expected him to "marginally suck". That is what we got. Now, take a hard long look in the mirror. For the sake of argument lets assume that Volek=Collins and Collins = Volek ... ok? Can we just agree they are each as poor as the other? just for a second? making that assumption and looking around that the other 21 postions... honestly, Collins didn't blow the game. He just did not win it. Neither did anyone else. It's that &*%$#@! simple.

gotta agree with that

still Collins was put in an awful position by Reese and Fisher. Reese for getting him on the team and Fisher for starting him over the entrenched starter Volek.

plain and simple The Titans had a better chance of winning with Volek as the starting QB