View Full Version : Fisher: Titans sticking with Collins as QB vs. Dallas
SEC 330 BIPOLAR 09-26-2006, 07:42 PM Despite an 0-3 start, Titans coach Jeff Fisher isn't looking to next season and the future starting quarterback of the franchise yet.
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Dcowboys#1 09-26-2006, 07:58 PM hmmmmm, strange decision, considering how bad Collins has been performing, seems to me that he would give Young a shot, but i guess he's gonna roll with Collins this Sunday. I'd give Collins a couple more games, and if he continues to struggle, prepare for the future now, and throw Young in there!!
RyansTitans 09-26-2006, 08:00 PM dumbest decison ever. i don care what happens the rest of the year fire fisher. and if any of u say it was a good call ur all fools. i cant believe were going to be 0-4... screw jeff fisher
bigtitan53279 09-26-2006, 08:05 PM dumbest decison ever. i don care what happens the rest of the year fire fisher. and if any of u say it was a good call ur all fools. i cant believe were going to be 0-4... screw jeff fisher
yeah, you're right, let's throw young out there behind a make shift line against a top 5 defense.
GREAT idea :rolleyes:
cld12pk2go 09-26-2006, 09:36 PM Since we are not likely to be playing in Janurary, I think we should do what is best to develop VY. Obviously, Fisher thinks that is playing him only as much as he thinks he can handle at the moment.
As much as I like watching VY in the game, I want him to be developed properly...
Riverman 09-26-2006, 10:02 PM I'm behind Fisher. If he says Collins- I'll support Collins.
That being said, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. (I think you can fill in the blank)
The Fins game gave me some hope that we have hit the bottom and are slowly back on the way up. We need to stick with one plan for the next 3 years.
Snookus 09-26-2006, 10:07 PM No one has yet to give a reason why letting Vince start will ruin his development. Will he fry his brain or something?
Ewker 09-26-2006, 10:21 PM since I have to chose between Collins and Young as the Titans Qb I guess I will go with Young. I do not feel he is ready and will be eaten alive this season. But even being eaten alive is better than having a washed up, no good bum as a QB
bigtitan53279 09-26-2006, 10:25 PM No one has yet to give a reason why letting Vince start will ruin his development. Will he fry his brain or something?
yeah, you're right, let's throw young out there behind a make shift line against a top 5 defense.
GREAT idea
i think that's a pretty good reason why he shouldnt start this week.
Snookus 09-26-2006, 10:37 PM i think that's a pretty good reason why he shouldnt start this week.
Because Dallas is a top 5 defense?!? That's not a good reason. Peyton Manning played defenses such as the Dolphins, Jets, and Chargers (Jets and Dolphins twice a year) which were all in the top 10 at the time of his rookie year. He seems to have turned out pretty good.
bigtitan53279 09-26-2006, 10:39 PM Because Dallas is a top 5 defense?!? That's not a good reason. Peyton Manning played defenses such as the Dolphins, Jets, and Chargers (Jets and Dolphins twice a year) which were all in the top 10 at the time of his rookie year. He seems to have turned out pretty good.
my main point was we have no healthy guards going against a top 5 defense. not that dallas has a top 5 defense alone.
their defense is also a 3-4 defense, which is hard for linemen to decipher who the 4th and 5th rushers are.
Snookus 09-26-2006, 10:49 PM my main point was we have no healthy guards going against a top 5 defense. not that dallas has a top 5 defense alone.
their defense is also a 3-4 defense, which is hard for linemen to decipher who the 4th and 5th rushers are.
I thought just Bell was out. But I think you'd be suprised at how well our line is doing. So far in these three games we have only given up 4 sacks, all Kerry "I couldn't scramble for my life" Collins.
I think the earlier he plays these defenses, the sooner he can be ready to be productive. And like I've said before; he's not going to blow his mind out from the complexity of some defense. He will just learn from it.
bigtitan53279 09-26-2006, 10:52 PM amano, piller and olson are all gametime decisions. i agree, our line has been doing well in pass protection.
SEC 330 BIPOLAR 09-26-2006, 11:41 PM That being said, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. (I think you can fill in the blank)
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TitanKid4Life 09-27-2006, 12:03 AM this is the worst decision in our franchise
avvie 09-27-2006, 12:33 AM Maybe the idea is to milk the $2MIL failure for all he's worth (which isn't $2MIL) until he gets injured...the sooner, the better....THEN start VY.
Hey, stranger things have happened recently...
PhiSlammaJamma 09-27-2006, 02:17 AM The one thing I like is that we have something to point too if Fisher is fired. This was his call. Collins was his boy. And with every start we add one more loss. If he wants to save his job Young will have to start with at least 4 games left in the season.
No one has yet to give a reason why letting Vince start will ruin his development. Will he fry his brain or something?
Let's try this...
Do you think VY knows the entire offense yet?
Do you think not knowing the entire offense well enough to have success on the field is a good way for him to prepare for a game...and we're just talking mental stuff here...knowing the plays, route combos, route adjustments, hot reads, different protections for each formation and each play...AND...know all this against a 3-4 D?
Since Young will not know all of the above AND not have much experience to draw upon, don't you think it's likely when he's confused he's more likely to run, hold the ball too long or chuck it up?
Add in the fact that our OL is not particularly stout,,even before the injuries. Now both starting OG's are questionable and one of our backup OG's is also questionable?
Add to that that Chow's system puts MORE stress on the OG's...who all happen to be injured.
Add to that our run game has been stinking so we can't rely on a lot of that to carry the O.
And this is the meatgrinder you want Vince to be thrown into BEFORE he's ready?
You might want to risk a $100million investment on that, but I don't.
And now that you've significantly increased VY's chances of getting injured, what will you tell me if he does get seriously injured because he did hold the ball too long (cause he was confused)? That would put a quick end to his development, right?
Or suppose he gets so much pressure because of our OG's injuries that he can't do much but run (taking a beating) and throwing some dump offs...is that gonna help his development?
IF we had a strong run game and our interior OL wasn't all banged up it'd be a consideration assuming Vince knows ENOUGH of the playbook, protections, adjustments (blah blah blah) to be effective.
Since this is unlikely, the pros of him playing in the game unprepared for developmental purposes vs the cons of being unprepared, playing behind a hurt line, significantly increasing his risk for injury, and playing against a top 10 D to boot....are heavily weighed in favor of the cons.
As many have mentioned, the target date is most likely the Texans IF VY is ready by then. The Texans have a weak D and perhaps he'll be more ready 3 weeks from now (and maybe our OL will be healthier and hopefully we'll have found our running game).
If someone is gonna take a beating at QB, let Collins handle it. And Collins played decently against the Dolphins. Not great, not bad. And he should only get better as his timing on the deep routes improves. We had guys open for the big score. We just need to hit a couple of those and it's a different ballgame.
And if Collins hasn't picked it up heading to the Texans...I think we might see VY.
Gut
SEC 330 BIPOLAR 09-27-2006, 09:13 AM this is the worst decision in our franchise
read Gut's post. You still think that?
Hoffa 06-13-2007, 09:48 PM Funny looking back at how some people thought it would ruin VY career to let him start last year...
...and how Fisher was sticking with his boy Collins...
BudAdams 06-13-2007, 09:57 PM ahhh..the memories
thanks for the ole stroll down memory lane!
Hoffa 06-13-2007, 10:06 PM thanks for the ole stroll down memory lane!
No, thank you Mr. Adams,
for making Fisher start Vince...;)
Titans10&25 06-13-2007, 11:49 PM I am not believing this decision. Vince is our starter and how good he did his rookie year should show that he is capable of doing what needs to be done. I seriously can not believe I read that.
I am not believing this decision. Vince is our starter and how good he did his rookie year should show that he is capable of doing what needs to be done. I seriously can not believe I read that.
:eh?:
you do realize this thread is a year old don't you ?
Blazing Arrow 06-14-2007, 12:16 AM I am not believing this decision. Vince is our starter and how good he did his rookie year should show that he is capable of doing what needs to be done. I seriously can not believe I read that.
:spit:
BudAdams 06-14-2007, 12:38 AM I am not believing this decision. Vince is our starter and how good he did his rookie year should show that he is capable of doing what needs to be done. I seriously can not believe I read that.
Natural selection fails again...:suspect:
TWR#1 06-14-2007, 12:53 AM didnt he start against the Cowboys anyways...
Creeping-Cruds 06-14-2007, 01:57 AM The Hanesworth game.. Things were getting pretty bad there for a while. Hard to imagine how close our boys got to the playoffs after all that bad mojo. A true turnaround season..
SEC 330 BIPOLAR 06-14-2007, 09:04 AM Funny looking back at how some people thought it would ruin VY career to let him start last year...
...and how Fisher was sticking with his boy Collins...
:bump: great bump man!
:applause:
Titans10&25 06-14-2007, 09:15 AM Ahh hell lol I feel like an idiot haha my bad guys...
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