Sure it was the third foot down, but come on Drew, you had room to tip-toe about 2-3 more steps.

Too bad such a great throw had to be spoiled by sloppy play.

Sure it was the third foot down, but come on Drew, you had room to tip-toe about 2-3 more steps.

Too bad such a great throw had to be spoiled by sloppy play.

Comeon, what do you expect from him? He, like everybody else other than the officials, felt that he had two feet clearly inbounds and control of the ball. Why should he continue to tiptoe? You can't take poor officiating into account in every thing you do on a football field.

Also, I'd wager a lot of money that the call would have been a completition had it been Harrison, TO, Johnson etc., rather than Bennet. Certainly I've seen plenty of receivers make sideline catches where tucking it into the body isn't considered lack of control.

Also, I'd wager a lot of money that the call would have been a completition had it been Harrison, TO, Johnson etc., rather than Bennet.Harrison would have taken the extra steps to leave no doubt. That's the difference. That's what great receivers do......the little things.

BS-
You can't blame him for that.

HOWEVER - You CAN blame him for the earlier pass that was a little low but catchable when he decided NOT to make a play on the ball because the defender was going to hit him.

Harrison would have taken the extra steps to leave no doubt. That's the difference. That's what great receivers do......the little things.

You mean like his Non-TD catch last week? The one where the officials initially called it a TD even though his second step was 1 yard outside the endzone? Sure.....

Drew needs to pick it up, he looks like he doesn't care out there. I've thought he was great for years, but he needs to develop some consistency with Young. We desperately need more consistency in our passing game, and our WRs really stepping it up would go a long way.

Harrison would have taken the extra steps to leave no doubt. That's the difference. That's what great receivers do......the little things.

So, you're comparing Harrison to Bennett now? How do you expect us to treat your arguments if you come up with such inane comparison? To be fair, would Kevin Curtis, David Kircus, Joe Jurevicius or Mike Furrey have tiptoed to make sure they had 2 feet in?

So, you're comparing Harrison to Bennett now? How do you expect us to treat your arguments if you come up with such inane comparison?I'm not the one who brought Harrison into this discussion. Feel free to read the thread before jumping in.

drew's play this year has been lazy. he wont fight for balls or even try to catch them when the ball is outside his body.

"Lazy" is another good word to describe that effort.

I don't know if he's lazy, I think he has the mentality for what he is: a possession #2. He plays like Mason is still on the other side of him and he'll be there whenever it is McNair needs him--and that's the difference: your #1 wr is waiting to make a play, your #2 wr will be there when you throw to him. Your #1 knows that when he's not getting the ball the offense is stalling [Steve Smith], your #2 doesn't feel this pressure--his production is a bonus [Keyshawn].

I'm not really trying to knock Drew here, he is what he is. It's like Joe Jurevicius, he'll always be a good #2 but never a Roy Williams or an Andre Johnson or what Braylon Edwards could be (obviously I'm leaving out the next tier of Holt's and Harrison's b/c it's like saying we should draft a Hall of Famer--what we need is to try and procure a #1 TYPE, that's why I think the Braylon example is accurate: he could still be a boom or bust, but this is with regard to the #1 status. Drew should be judged on #2 status, they're trying to make it seem he's a co-#1, a #1.5, when he clearly is not.)

It was a bad call by the officials, plain and simple.

The ball was caught.

The officials should be fined for incompetence, and eliminated from post-season duty.

From today's Tennessean: "I don't know what that was," Bennett said. "I would have drug my foot if I thought it was even close."

Anyone who watched the replay at home see him bobbling the ball? It looked clean from Section 108.

He never bobble it. It was clearly a catch. Even the announcers couldn't believe it when the ref didn't overturn the call.

Drew needs to pick it up, he looks like he doesn't care out there. I've thought he was great for years, but he needs to develop some consistency with Young. We desperately need more consistency in our passing game, and our WRs really stepping it up would go a long way.
Drew doesn't pass the ball, he just catches it when it's close. Complain to another member of the team if you think our passing game needs more work.

Drew doesn't pass the ball, he just catches it when it's close.
drew doesnt catch the ball. the only time he catches the ball is when it hits him directly in the chest, and even then it's iffy. he had an opporunity to make a play on the first deep ball. he just gave up on it. didnt even try to catch.

drew doesnt catch the ball. the only time he catches the ball is when it hits him directly in the chest, and even then it's iffy. he had an opporunity to make a play on the first deep ball. he just gave up on it. didnt even try to catch.


Easy to be judgemental when you aren't on the field. I am sure if Drew felt he could catch it he would have tried. He is 6'5, not as easy for someone that size to lay out for a pass as say a Steve Smith type guy. He is still our best "go to" receiver when Vince is in trouble, and Vince knows it. If the refs don't blow the call on his last catch this thread probably wouldn't have started.

Easy to be judgemental when you aren't on the field. I am sure if Drew felt he could catch it he would have tried. He is 6'5, not as easy for someone that size to lay out for a pass as say a Steve Smith type guy. He is still our best "go to" receiver when Vince is in trouble, and Vince knows it. If the refs don't blow the call on his last catch this thread probably wouldn't have started.
i dont know about that. he seems to look for wade and jones more than anyone. the only time he throws to drew is on the deep ball because of his size. damn shame he never tries to catch the ball.

so much for the go-to guy theory.

in vinces four starts:
bennett- 6 catches 93 yards
jones- 8 catches 92 yards 1 td
wade- 7 receptions 111 yards 1 td.

Anyone who watched the replay at home see him bobbling the ball? It looked clean from Section 108.

He catches it cleanly with his hands and then tucks it in to his body and it was clearly a controlled action, except in Austin's fantasyworld.

Anyone who watched the replay at home see him bobbling the ball? It looked clean from Section 108.There was no clear bobble, but I wouldn't say it "stuck".

i been listening to wsnr the past hour or so and they are ripping bennett for not giving 'maximum effort" on two deep balls, including the one im talking about. all they're saying is he half assed those two plays and he was afraid to get hit.

all of that was pretty obvious after watching the game again on nfl short cuts.

BS call. Looked like it from the stands. Looked like it from the jumbotron. Looked like it from 1 million different angles on my recording of the game.

No way Bennett deserves to be at fault for that.

Anyone who watched the replay at home see him bobbling the ball? It looked clean from Section 108.
it looked clean clear from section 127(opposite endzone from the play) it was just one of a few horrible calls.....and as for Drew he has looked like he's lacking the diving, jumping, bringing it down at all costs that we've seen from him in the past, But Jones and Wade have really stepped up and Jones and VY IMHO are showing the early signs of the mason/mcnair type.. Drew is still a great WR and it's going to take time for him and VY to get there timing down, it's come together better for VY & wade, jones, okay everyone but I'm not giving up on Drew yet... I'm confident they'kll find the stride and get it worked out, at least I hope....
C'mon titans lets make it 3 in a row.....

so much for the go-to guy theory.

in vinces four starts:
bennett- 6 catches 93 yards
jones- 8 catches 92 yards 1 td
wade- 7 receptions 111 yards 1 td.


I am talking about when Vince gets blitzed. The one guy he throws it to is Drew and depends on him to make the play. He did it yesterday, and in the Skins game.

Drew did not bobble the ball. It hit his hands -> 1 foot down -> tucked the ball into his chest -> second foot down -> third foot almost down..

I hope the officials gets reamed for that bonehead call.

Minnesota just got screwed even worse. Three steps, and a tuck. Belichek talked the refs into an incomplete. Then review confirms it according to ref, though it really confirmed something else. It's just stupid. I would love for a ref one day to just say, "I don't care what the rules say, that was a catch, and the whole world knows it, so I'm calling it a catch."

Yall are forgetting the great catch he made when Young threw it short and Bennett cut under the corner and made the catch. He did wimp out on that one deep ball that he didn't even try to catch. He was scared.

Definitely a bad call on this one, though. Wouldn't it have put away the game too?

BS-
You can't blame him for that.

HOWEVER - You CAN blame him for the earlier pass that was a little low but catchable when he decided NOT to make a play on the ball because the defender was going to hit him.

I just got through watching that again

and the defender was about to lay him OUT. even if Drew had caught that pass he probably would have popped it out when dude broke his ribs .... strange as it may seem, it was the right thing to do

i guess not giving up your body for the good of the team is the right thing to do, even though we had a qb and rb do that for ten years.

Y'know, I wonder if the coaches have told him to avoid taking big hits, even if it means giving up on a play? After all, Bennett isn't the most durable guy around.....had he gone down with an injury, the WR corps would have been Wade, Roby, and....nobody. Everyone else is hurt, and Orr was deactivated.

Not that I'm making excuses for Drew, but those two non-effort plays were ridiculous, with no attempt whatsoever to make a play. Even on his worst day, Drew has never been a guy who just goes through the motions. Surely there has to be some explanation.

I just got through watching that again

and the defender was about to lay him OUT. even if Drew had caught that pass he probably would have popped it out when dude broke his ribs .... strange as it may seem, it was the right thing to do

That is a pansy move right there.

If he doesnt wanna get hurt, he can go play golf.

i think drew gets stuck back in QB mode sometimes... forgets he has to take hits

i guess not giving up your body for the good of the team is the right thing to do, even though we had a qb and rb do that for ten years.

Yeah, I used to get really PO'd at Mcnair for sliding. What a wussboy.


:rolleyes:

That is a pansy move right there.

If he doesnt wanna get hurt, he can go play golf.


Okay, can we then agree to never, ever complain about an injury-ridden team again?

Okay, can we then agree to never, ever complain about an injury-ridden team again?

irrelivant.

Football is a contact sport, if you don't want to catch a ball or go for it because you're going to get hit, then chess is the game for you.

irrelivant.


Considering you're calling for the S&C coach to be fired because of injuries, I'd say it's quite relevant.

Considering you're calling for the S&C coach to be fired because of injuries, I'd say it's quite relevant.

then you'd be wrong, as injuries and being a pansy are not related.

Live to fight another day could be the motto here. I know Drew isn't the most gifted athlete, and he isn't the type to lay out for a pass. He does get open though and catches a lot of balls. I can live with him missing a "maybe" catch and possibly being injured for 2-3 games. He is more valuable on the field in the long run. QB's can get away with sliding and not making extra yards so they don't get injured.

then you'd be wrong, as injuries and being a pansy are not related.

Whatever. If Bennet goes for the ball and gets a couple of ribs cracked you'd be complaining about him being injured and if he doesn't go for the ball you'd be complaining about him being a pansy.

You're already complaining about Odom injuring his knee, something no S&C coach can ever prevent.

that's what WRs do. guys like bennett(slow, big, possession) make a living going over the middle making tough catches and taking big hits. if he isnt willing to do that, then he shouldnt be on the field.

then you'd be wrong, as injuries and being a pansy are not related.

getting injured because you went for an underthrown ball that was uncatchable to begin with may be heroic , but it'd be stupid

had we been down and REALLY needed it that'd been one thing
but we weren't in that situation

getting injured because you went for an underthrown ball that was uncatchable to begin with may be heroic , but it'd be stupid

it was not an underthrown ball. it was thrown a yard next to him, he could have easliy caught it. he saw the safety and didnt want to get hit. that's really all there was to it.

and i dont see how losing or winning should effect someone's effort in catching a ball. if it's catchable, you TRY to catch it.

The problem I had with the call was this:

The umpire, (back judge, side judge, whomever) that was in front of the play, in other words looking at the front of Drew Bennett, called the pass complete. He was about eight yards away from where Drew went OB, and marked the spot with his foot.

Suddenly, the umpire that was behind the play, in other words looking at Drew's back, came running in and called the pass incomplete. He was about fifteen yards away from where Drew went OB.

I don't know what the hierarchy is in the world of the officials, but the ref with the clearest view of the play was trumped by the ref who was not only behind the play, but was farther away from it.

Clearly, a bonehead call. Sunday was full of bad calls across the league actually. The frustrating thing is that there is no recourse.

OK, here is why I think they ruled it incomplete. Right foot down, he catches the ball in front of him with both hands (no bobble), left foot down he starts bringing the ball into his body, right foot down on the stripe he secures it to his body. I think if he leaves the ball in just his hands and doesn't bring it back to him they would have ruled it a catch. Not saying they are right, just trying to figure what they were thinking.

I think if he leaves the ball in just his hands and doesn't bring it back to him they would have ruled it a catch.I think you're right.

Whatever. If Bennet goes for the ball and gets a couple of ribs cracked you'd be complaining about him being injured and if he doesn't go for the ball you'd be complaining about him being a pansy.

You're already complaining about Odom injuring his knee, something no S&C coach can ever prevent.

I call for a change of S & C Coach because injuries have been piling up for 3 or 4 years now.

That is no coincidence, and these injuries are not happening because of 'tough plays' like a WR going for a ball when he is about to get killed.

When we were winning with McNair playing hurt all that time, if he didnt get those tough yards and take those shots because he played like a pansy we wouldn't win.

When we were winning with McNair playing hurt all that time, if he didnt get those tough yards and take those shots because he played like a pansy we wouldn't win.

There's the kicker. Except for the one odd year in 2004, we haven't been hit any worse by injury than any other team. Just look at how many players on other teams are on IR compared to us.

Besides, the nature of McNair's injuries were never serious enough to physically prevent him from playing (like an ACL tear, busted spleen, etc.).

If you have a team with a ton of hamstring injuries and the like, sure blame the S&C coach, but ligament tears, concussions, broken ribs, fingers, etc. is beyond what any coach can prevent. You can't prevent turf toe either, it's a hyperflexion of the toe joint caused by excesive force applied while pushing off with the front of the foot, to prevent that you need to teach different running styles or come up with orthopedic protective devices which is the team doctors area.

It'd be fun to see a list of our injuries that you think can be attributed to the S&C coach.

Watterson has been long considered one of the better S&C coaches in the league

Watterson has been long considered one of the better S&C coaches in the league

based on what?

I think you're right.

So what exactly are you trying to say? Do believe it was not a catch?

I don't see how this is "sloppy play" when it's an obvious catch. You don't have to do anything extra to prove you've already done what the rules require.

Matt Jones would have sold that catch.

http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/images/smilies/yikes.gif

TJ has to add that smilie. :ha:

drew doesnt catch the ball. the only time he catches the ball is when it hits him directly in the chest, and even then it's iffy. he had an opporunity to make a play on the first deep ball. he just gave up on it. didnt even try to catch.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=b9fooazNnJM

i must have missed something

2004 Tennessee Titans
Games-16 Rec-80 yds-1247 Avg-15.6 TD-11

that was the year he was voleks go to guy, for the next two years after, mcnair didnt look to him, and the stats prove it, obviously, vince and drew havent developed a chemistry like billy did, hopefully, its just a matter of time

2004 Tennessee Titans
Games-16 Rec-80 yds-1247 Avg-15.6 TD-11

that was the year he was voleks go to guy, for the next two years after, mcnair didnt look to him, and the stats prove it, obviously, vince and drew havent developed a chemistry like billy did, hopefully, its just a matter of time

That youtube brings back memories....we put up 24 points on the Colts in the first quarter. I wish we could have seen Volek for just one year as the starter here. Thanks for reminding people what Drew can do. Vince already knows, it's just a matter of time.

yeah, drew can do great things, when he tries to catch the ball.

yeah, drew can do great things, when he tries to catch the ball.


Tell us about your NFL experience, and how many catches you have made. You seem to know all about Drew.

i know he has had one great year against some of the worst defense's in the league.

i also know that if you have watched his play THIS season you can count 10-12 balls he has out right given up on.

i know he has had one great year against some of the worst defense's in the league.

i also know that if you have watched his play THIS season you can 10-12 balls he has out right given up on.


When he drops one that hits him in the hands get back to me. He's a FA, not some high priced guy we drafted #1. He catches a lot of balls other guys would never get. So he's not perfect....who is? T.O drops a crucial 4th down, Keyshawn drops a sure TD pass, even Steve Smith had some drops. You are calling Drew out for not diving for some balls? Please.

You are calling Drew out for not diving for some balls? Please.
no. im calling out drew for not reaching out for a ball that was within a yard because the safety was near him. he was afraid to get hit. he knew it. the crowd knew it. that's why they let him hear it and that's why he walked back to the huddle with his head down and his shoulders slumped. he was ashamed and he should have been.

he had the opportunity to make a big play for his team and his qb and he blew it because he was a pansy. then he did the same thing in the next quarter.

im not asking him to be all pro, he's never going to be all pro. im just asking him to TRY to catch the catchable ball.

he's a possession WR. he's supposed to go over the middle and make the tough catches. if he's not willing to do that, get someone who is.

Tell us about your NFL experience, and how many catches you have made. You seem to know all about Drew.

Could you make any other irrelevant point?

What does NFL Experience have to do with someone who doesn't go for balls?

Still waiting for that list of injuries that the S&C Coach should have prevented ;)

Still waiting for that list of injuries that the S&C Coach should have prevented ;)

If I could actually find the injury reports I would...not that I am looking very hard...or at all :))

Chris Brown x 25 - there, he is a hamstring injury, all his career, get rid of the S & C Coach. :yes:

When he drops one that hits him in the hands get back to me.You must be a new fan, because he HAS dropped enough that have hit him in the hands that it seems now he doesn't even bother trying for the one's that would require even minimal extra effort.

Welcome aboard.

You must be a new fan, because he HAS dropped enough that have hit him in the hands that it seems now he doesn't even bother trying for the one's that would require even minimal extra effort.

Welcome aboard.
Bad guess, bad assumption. I live here in Nashville, and miss very few games. I think most people only remember Drew for dropping the pass at NE, and forgot overall what a good receiver he has been. So Drew lays out for one, hurts himself for 2-3 games and we have one less receiver that can produce. Would that make you happy?

I live here in Nashville, and miss very few games. I think most people only remember Drew for dropping the pass at NEAre we talking about "most people", or the few that actually care enough or have enough brain capacity to remember all the other drops.

drews drops more than his fair share of passes. i remember the "teflon drew" thread. one of the best.

:grrhee:

http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showthread.php?t=21532&highlight=teflon

:grrhee:

http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/showthread.php?t=21532&highlight=teflon
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drews drops more than his fair share of passes. i remember the "teflon drew" thread. one of the best.


Well Fisher must be crazy to even be playing Drew since he is so bad. Why don't you hustle over to BSP and enlighten the coaching staff so they can make some changes. I am sure they will welcome your input.

All of this over what was clearly a blown call by the officials. Just like the play Monday night where the Minnesota TE caught the ball cleanly, tucked it, took three and a half steps, turned upfield (the "football move") was tacked and lost the ball. Somehow that was called an incomplete pass after replay. Replay has some faults.

The Officials have faults.

Drew should open a sports bar in town and name it "The Drew Drop Inn".

Well Fisher must be crazy to even be playing Drew since he is so bad. Why don't you hustle over to BSP and enlighten the coaching staff so they can make some changes. I am sure they will welcome your input.
i think this coaching staff has made their far share of questionable decisions *hack* andre woolfolk tyrone calico kerry collins *cough*

Thunder, you're not gonna win this one. Bennett has become notorious for dropping balls with more consistency than catches since he broke his ribs. I don't know...maybe he's flinching subconsciously now. But he's a ball-dropper, plain and simple. And trust me as the owner of a #83 jersey, I'm not very happy about it.

Thunder, you're not gonna win this one. Bennett has become notorious for dropping balls with more consistency than catches since he broke his ribs. I don't know...maybe he's flinching subconsciously now. But he's a ball-dropper, plain and simple. And trust me as the owner of a #83 jersey, I'm not very happy about it.


It's not a contest. You see things as you wish, I will do the same. I don't perceive Drew as someone that drops balls he gets his hands on. No receiver catches everything, but he has caught enough balls in clutch situations to keep me from getting down on him. I am far more concerned about Scaife and Troupe dropping 10 yarders, and Wade dropping a home run right in his lap.

Drew has definitely dropped two long bombs that hit him in the hands that I can remember. One during preseason and one during the cowboys game. He's also tipped three passes for INTs in the past season and a half.

A bunch of people here are disappointed because he's not living up to the potential he showed for a few weeks in 2004. He needs to step up to help our offense.

Bennett is inconsistent. That is no different than all the other WRs on the team and most in the league.

that's what WRs do. guys like bennett(slow, big, possession) make a living going over the middle making tough catches and taking big hits. if he isnt willing to do that, then he shouldnt be on the field.


Bennett is not slow. When DCs think this way Bennett is seen catching a deep ball with an OLB in his wake. Gotta cover him with a CB or else, granted a good CB can take Drew out of a game.

That catch was "A Catch", he had two feet down, the third step was on the line. Didn't you see the game or the replays. Even Fish said he felt is was a catch and after seeing the play again ang again, said he was sure it was a catch.:yes:

get rid of the S & C Coach. :yes:


lets see how much better Lendale White does without his old coach than with him..........