the good

1. on jacksonville's first run play he had a tackle for a loss. he went through the hole like a bullet.
2. on the second drive he disrupted a screen, grabbing the back.
3. he made a nice open field form tackle on david garrard on 1st and goal after vince's INT was returned to the three yard line.
4. he made a big hit on reggie williams, something we havent had a linebacker do all year.
5. he showed good speed to get to jones-drew on a swing pass.

the bad

1. on george wrister's td he got behind tulloch after garrard had all day to throw.
2. he was in the wrong gap a few times.
3. over ran a few plays.
4. while he showed good speed getting to jones-drew, he didnt bring him down.

I wasn't too impressed with him, but at the same time I am not impressed with Sirmon either. What do we have to lose. Let's see if this kid is the replacement for Sirmon. We all know he's gone after the year.

I didn't get to see him play, but by all accounts he was at worst on par with Sirmon.

The same reason you start Tulloch is the same reason you start Vince. Right now, EVERY decision on this team should be about getting back to the playoffs in a season or two. As soon as Fuller feels close to 100%, he needs to be in instead of LT.

The same reason you start Tulloch is the same reason you start Vince. Right now, EVERY decision on this team should be about getting back to the playoffs in a season or two. As soon as Fuller feels close to 100%, he needs to be in instead of LT.

100% agree. the season is over... only kimberly thinks we will still make the playoffs. you start the young talent everywhere you can now to see where we need the most help in the off-season. i dont see sirmon coming back next year so i see every snap he plays as a wasted one. even if he was having a decent year... which he isn't... it's pretty much pointless for him to be in the game.

The same reason you start Tulloch is the same reason you start Vince. Right now, EVERY decision on this team should be about getting back to the playoffs in a season or two. As soon as Fuller feels close to 100%, he needs to be in instead of LT.

Wow Jeff, them's fighting words coming from you :ha:

The same reason you start Tulloch is the same reason you start Vince. Right now, EVERY decision on this team should be about getting back to the playoffs in a season or two. As soon as Fuller feels close to 100%, he needs to be in instead of LT.

:yes:

Sirmon isn't getting any faster, he's limited. Tulloch should improve with reps and has the physical advantage. Gow with the guy with the higher ceiling.

Wow Jeff, them's fighting words coming from you :ha:
Yup. I get this way when both the Vols and Titans lose in one weekend. :irked:

If I don't see upside in a player so this team can be ready by '08 to make a run for a few seasons, I'm all for doing whatever it takes. Right now, there is quite a list of those I strongly consider handing walking papers to.

Lets start the list then Jeff!

I'll Start and you & others feel free to add on

Lamont Thompson
Peter Sirmon
Benji Olson

It would be easier for me to list those I feel should be in the team's long-term plans.

Well i'll name the offense, you name the defense

VY
LenDale
Hall
Scaife
Troupe
Givens
BJ
Roos
Bell
Stewart

Maybe I should phrase it another way. Which players on the team now do you give long-term deals to and build around for a playoff run beginning in '08?

Offense
VY
LenDale
Scaife
B. Jones
Roos
Stewart

I'm going to need more from Troupe and Givens. Based on what we've seen so far in '06, no way I lock up either long-term. Hopefully, my mind changes on both.

Defense
KVB
Thornton
Bulluck
P. Jones
Hope

I have a few players on the bubble such as Haynesworth and Hill who, like Troupe and Givens, need more time to show something. It's hard to make a call on the young guys like Tulloch, Fuller, Finnegan and Lowry.

Hill showed some nice progress lately, but he still wouldn't be starting on many NFL teams. What I would like to see would be him as a backup CB.. He would be nice with a lot of experience coming in. He's just not athletic enough to be a star. That's what we need, stars.

keepers O:
Young
White
Henry
Roos
Bell
Stewart
Hall

Keepers on D
Pac
Hope
Bulluck
Thorton

Everyone else is expendable or would maybe make great backups or role players.

What about KVB?

no robaire on either of your lists?

personaly i like hanz i think he is a mamoth...i've watche him..every snap he draws a double team. and actually hill started out really bad this season...but he has really imporved. not sure i'd consider him a lock..but definilty worth keepin on the team for now...i think if we sign a vet cb for 2 yrs..then hill would be ready to take over and play at a much muhc higher level.

about tulluch he does have speed....insane speed...all he needs to work on is his tackling technique...and in 8 games and working w/ the starting crew in practice he would get lots of time to learn to tackle (or he could jsut watch keith. keith bulluck only missed on tackle yestderday and had some nice stops in awkward positions and that TD he let was i think a zone coverage that the safty shoulda picked up on)

but i do truely like tulluch speed...but if u notice strenth is more a required asset for MLB then speed...its true u need speed but if u look at the ideal MLBs in zach thomos, urlacher, and so on..sure they have speed but they are known more for their strenght. also in practice he would train tackling travis henry and he is a small hard back to bring down w/ a very stong base and realloy good upper body strength (in other words...it would be good practice indeed)