Out of another busted draft from this past year except maybe vince and lindale, is jonathan orr still on the team? The rookie from Wisconsin??? I see a bunch of teams using their rookie WRs. This franchise has never had a clue how to use WR. We got lucky with Derrick Mason who just played his guts out every week and knew how to get open and catch. Thanks to scum bags in the front office we made sure he was let go. Really though is Jonathan Orr even on the team? Why do we draft players and never ever use them anyone remember Darrell Hill a few years ago he was on the team 4 freaking years 4 years never even thrown to I just do not get it with this franchise they have 0 direction. Now if Darrell Hill could not get the job done then why let him hang around for 4 years now granted I have not heard his name since he was released but its just another example of miss drafted and unable to coach up anyone.

yeah, he's on the team. he's been inactive most(if not all) of the season.

He's injured I think...

The real indictment is on Fisher..............Mason drafted in 97 really did not get a shot until late 99 and early 2000 and then it was only on ST..................In 97 and 98 FA WR were brought in and did nothing..............Mason should have been given his shot earlier....................Fisher has shown aconsistent propensity to vets over rookies despite their talent...............his rule is if you dont know your assignments you dont play..............so what we are left with is guys who are book smart playing regardless of talent.................football is a game of impact plays................everyone in Nashville knows VY is not ready for primetime but the best way for a QB to get better quicker is trial by fire................several love to point out how great it was for Mac or Palmer to have sat.................but Eli Peyton Aikman Simms Elway all played alot early and got better quicker..............look at ALex Smith..............he looked horrid last yr..............1 TD and 11 INT's.................look at him play now.....................too bad the coaching staff has no faith in younger players..................this logic is especially indefensible when the team is playing the "coaches guys" who know their assignments and are getting hammered week in and week................if youre going to lose lets do it with the future of the team not the guys who will be shown the door come Dec 31

Smith started in only seven games last season. When the Niners came to town, the coach asked Fisher what he would do with him. His answer was to sit Smith.

Didn't Elway, P. Manning, E. Manning and Simms played their senior seasons in college?

if we have a chacne to get Calvin Johnson we better not pass up on him, it would really be a no-brainer even with our bad history on WR's we can cure all that up with Johnson, plus the guy is humble reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald- imagine that and David Givens we would have a great offense...

Fitz was a better prospect than Johnson..................

Something I was thinking earlier today.....

Marques Colston and DeMeco Ryans are front runners for ROY honors, and are playing out of their minds.

Had they been drafted to the Titans, they'd still be buried on special teams, and probably wouldn't play regularly until 2007 or later.

Sad but true.

^^^ I agree

thats the thing about Fisher he falls in love with veteran old, bad players- and forgets that this is a buisness and sometimes the young guy is just better, especially with Demeco Ryans, I really think he would play Sirmon over Ryans- and won't realize that Ryans is a lot better until Sirmon gets hurt one game and Ryans comes in and does a lot better and even then he would probably still start Sirmon, heck I don't even know what to think on Tulloch, something tells me we have the next Zach Thomas playing backup to Sirmon, but we don't see him enough to make a judgement

yep.....................the other interesting fact...........both players Colston and Ryans play for new HC who moved out incumbents for them......................that should tell you something too

if we have a chacne to get Calvin Johnson we better not pass up on him, it would really be a no-brainer even with our bad history on WR's we can cure all that up with Johnson, plus the guy is humble reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald- imagine that and David Givens we would have a great offense...

Funny that you should mention Larry Fitzgerald. I think the Cardinals are the prime example of why an offense needs quite a bit more than a couple of good Wide Receivers.

I remember a quote from Fisher or Les Steckels in regards to WRs and they mentioned that they wanted WRs that blocked. That was one of the reasons Mason did not see the field.

I'm just a fan, but I was always under the impression that a WR's number one priority is to catch the ball. By the way, was Joey Kent ahead of Mason on the depth chart?

like the boring o-line... and it kind of shows how edgerrin james isnt THAT amazing

edgerrin james did not forget hot to run during the offseason. it's pretty hard to run when you get hit in the back field every rush.

Something I was thinking earlier today.....

Marques Colston and DeMeco Ryans are front runners for ROY honors, and are playing out of their minds.

Had they been drafted to the Titans, they'd still be buried on special teams, and probably wouldn't play regularly until 2007 or later.

Sad but true.
Though I agree, I don't think Ryans would be anywhere close to having his numbers on a team with a good run D. When I look at tackles by an LB, they often indicate there is a pretty weak DL in front of them. The top two in tackles are Colts. Followed by Thomas at Miami. Then you have Ryans, Bulluck, Fletcher, Vilma and Morrison. All pathetic rushing defenses except for Buffalo which falls around 19th. Still, a great talent.

Colston should win this hand down, IMO. He is averaging nearly a TD and close to 90 yards a game.

Though I agree, I don't think Ryans would be anywhere close to having his numbers on a team with a good run D. When I look at tackles by an LB, they often indicate there is a pretty weak DL in front of them.

Very true.

However, I'm not talking about his stats. (In fact, I've never even looked at Ryan's stats.) What has impressed me so much is his raw ability and nose for the ball. You don't have to watch him for long to see that the kid is a serious playmaker....but if he was a Titan, he'd still be waiting for his opportunity.

Very true.

However, I'm not talking about his stats. (In fact, I've never even looked at Ryan's stats.) What has impressed me so much is his raw ability and nose for the ball. You don't have to watch him for long to see that the kid is a serious playmaker....but if he was a Titan, he'd still be waiting for his opportunity.
I wish we had him. He might be better than who the Texans took with their first pick.

It is key in the cap era to have a quick trigger finger on letting go of overpaid and underproducing vets. It is a travesty that we are wasting 6mil on Pillar, Sirmon, and Thompson this yr. I guarantee our record would be no different if rookies were playing their spots. In the future we will hit a time when we could sure use that 6mil of cap space.

It is also key to lock young guys up early if you know that they are going to be your future starters. A guy like Bell should be locked up this yr. Don't wait until after the season when the inflation of the 2007 cap makes salaries more expensive. Pay for Bell at the 2006 rate while you can.

The Eagles are great at locking guys up long term early and letting vets go instead of over paying them.

Something I was thinking earlier today.....

Marques Colston and DeMeco Ryans are front runners for ROY honors, and are playing out of their minds.

Had they been drafted to the Titans, they'd still be buried on special teams, and probably wouldn't play regularly until 2007 or later.

Sad but true.
What about Finnegan? He's a rook, but yet he's our starting NCB... Explain that one?

Waddell is injured.

Waddell sucks... IMHO.

What about Finnegan? He's a rook, but yet he's our starting NCB... Explain that one?

It was Fuller's job, but coming into TC his injury failed to heel to 100% thus opening the job for Finnegan to catch on. Finnegan will stay @ the nickel from now also. Fuller is almost back to full strength & is probably being groomed to take over for Lamont @ sometime or another. I hope its pretty darn soon though....

The real indictment is on Fisher..............Mason drafted in 97 really did not get a shot until late 99 and early 2000 and then it was only on ST..................In 97 and 98 FA WR were brought in and did nothing..............Mason should have been given his shot earlier....................Fisher has shown aconsistent propensity to vets over rookies despite their talent...............his rule is if you dont know your assignments you dont play..............so what we are left with is guys who are book smart playing regardless of talent.................football is a game of impact plays................everyone in Nashville knows VY is not ready for primetime but the best way for a QB to get better quicker is trial by fire................several love to point out how great it was for Mac or Palmer to have sat.................but Eli Peyton Aikman Simms Elway all played alot early and got better quicker..............look at ALex Smith..............he looked horrid last yr..............1 TD and 11 INT's.................look at him play now.....................too bad the coaching staff has no faith in younger players..................this logic is especially indefensible when the team is playing the "coaches guys" who know their assignments and are getting hammered week in and week................if youre going to lose lets do it with the future of the team not the guys who will be shown the door come Dec 31

Eli Manning is far from a 'great' QB yet and Alex Smith's improvement is over an 8 game stretch in which he's wracking up some good numbers against prevent defenses because his team already lost.

Aikman had to endure a rookie season before being surrounded by the greatest talent I've ever seen on Offense. Of course we have the Peyton Manning's, Marino's and Elways and....?

The reality is that there is at least a 5 to 1 ratio of QB's that make it and QB's that don't. There are MORE qb's that started as rookie and failed as NFL QB's than ones that have succeeded. You wanna list all the busts that started as rookies and are now selling cars?

Don't get me started on the Les Steckel era of Titans offense...run Eddie, run Eddie, run Eddie, run Eddie, run Eddie, run Eddie, run...(does Eddie need a breather?)...err...throw to Wycheck. And if you remember, Fisher's buddy Alan Lowry was promoted to WR coach and promptly taught all of our WR's how NOT to beat press coverage!!!

I do believe that players SHOULD know their assignments...but I also believe that we need to get the best playmaking talent on the field in the best positions to succeed!

Gut

the best way for a QB to get better quicker is trial by fire....

I understand your point, but did you know that that is the exact opposite stance of most fans, vets, coaches and pundits?

And if he gets hurt, then we are REALLYscrewed.

Given how everyone agrees that Fisher likes vets
AND
Given Fisher's arrogance over the Volek debacle
AND
Given that Fisher didn't want VY in the first place
AND
Given that he knows we're screwed if VY is injured......

Do you get the feeling that when it happens he will seize the opportunity to say "I TOLD YOU SO!! YOU SEE, FANS?? WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL, YOU OR ME?? HUH?? HUH??" Maybe he would actually want that, given the hot seat he's been in.

Rivers sat behind Brees and learned the system, Brady sat behind Bledsoe and did the same. Trial by fire doesn't always work.