HE would play LW and TH a ton regardless of the score.............if we really want to get back to smashmouth football we need to pound it to the ground and get the RB and OL in rhythm.............

He would give all the young guys chances for significant playing time..........and see what we have..............we dont need to see guys like Sirmon and Woolfolk and Bennett.............play the pups

We need to be more aggressive on D since we are over matched.............that means run blitzing and gap control with the front 7 and I think we need to be a higher % blitzing team across all down and distances.................if we really want to use Jones and Hill...........play press coverage and let LT Fuller and Finegan roll coverage or man up the slot.........................look at the Raiders...........as bad as they are on O their D is playing extremely well, infact better then some of the teams who will be in the post season..............and they did it awfully fast...............scheme more so than players.............................and they do it by maning up in the secondary and cutting their front 7 loose..............love that scheme.

Id like to hear what the board says ..........................

HE would play LW and TH a ton regardless of the score.............if we really want to get back to smashmouth football we need to pound it to the ground and get the RB and OL in rhythm.............

You can't do that when your down by two or three TD's. It's common football sense.

He would give all the young guys chances for significant playing time..........and see what we have..............we dont need to see guys like Sirmon and Woolfolk and Bennett.............play the pups
Why? So we can suck even worse that we already do? No thanks.

We need to be more aggressive on D since we are over matched.............that means run blitzing and gap control with the front 7 and I think we need to be a higher % blitzing team across all down and distances.................if we really want to use Jones and Hill...........play press coverage and let LT Fuller and Finegan roll coverage or man up the slot.........................look at the Raiders...........as bad as they are on O their D is playing extremely well, infact better then some of the teams who will be in the post season..............and they did it awfully fast...............scheme more so than players.............................and they do it by maning up in the secondary and cutting their front 7 loose..............love that scheme.
Sounds like it's a peice of cake. Maybe you should start coaching. You make it sound like they aren't professional football coaches or something. "Scheme more" ...Hmmm good idea. Why don't we start scoring more too while were at it. That might help too.

why? We are already winning 3 games tops...................who cares if we are down 21................run the ball...............establish and identity for next yr and get the OL physical..............plus running it will shorten the nightmares.....................your posts represents conventional thought.................but I think we need to look at developing team chemistry and an indentity and player development..................not winning.

A few thoughts.

I do believe that guys have to win their spots, not just be handed them because they are younger, or because we think that its impossible for them to be less than the guy on the field already.

There is also a requirement to give the team its best chance to win each game ... so that vets like #53 don't lose all hope.

The issue you raised at the beginning of season was that Fish had lost control of locker room by having two sets of rules. I think that has proven to be false ... or at least ... less than accurate ... given the hard suspensions to at least three players this season ... including Adam.

There is also truth that we need to make some assessments of the young guys prior to free agency and the draft. I do have serious question as to whether LW has enough footspeed to be a true #1 ... so I want to see him on the field as much as possible ... provided he doesn't get VY killed with blitz pickup mistakes.

I think Tulloch has to be on the field, even though he certainly wasn't special this past weekend.

Lowry or Fuller. Can't imagine how bad they must be in practice to keep LT on the field.

But really that's about it. We are already living with Brown, Mahelona, and Savage in the dline. Finneran is playing nickle. Hall and VY are in the backfield. Stewart and Bell are in on the line.

Not much more on the bench ... other than the return of Donnie Nickey. And I don't suspect that you will soon be calling for that.

JS is a terrible coach and he has a job because of Fisher................we need a coaching tsunami at BSP.....................

Code................in the print media and on the Titan controlled radio shows..............things in the lockerroom look OK...............they are not..............go find a Titan and ask.................most will tell you that changes need to happen and they think players need to go and coaches either evolve or need to go.....................includes the GM too................

and Code.................the players sense changes coming............just wait to see how they all react after 5 more horrendous losses..................the real vets who will be here in 07 know that this yr is for VY and that is why they play.................it is not for Fisher.

why? We are already winning 3 games tops [Says who, I think we will end up with about 5, you may have insider info, but they can't tell you how many games we are winning] ...................who cares if we are down 21[ME] ................run the ball...............establish and identity for next yr and get the OL physical [thats not establishing an identity, thats just dumb, why take a blowout when you can at least put some points on the board?] ..............plus running it will shorten the nightmares [or stall it] .....................your posts represents conventional thought.................but I think we need to look at developing team chemistry and an indentity and player development..................not winning. [I see what you are saying, but as a fan I want to go to the games and cheer for a win, not for lets get put the young guys out there, win 2 games this season, plus winning helps develop players a lot better]



my stuff in bold...

this team is getting creamed when it loses..............we are not like the Steelers.............in every loss...............this team is terrible...............we will win three games tops and yes that is my view..................Id rather lose 28-10 running 40 times for 150 yds establishing the RB and OL and shortening games and having VY picking his spots...................................putting the game's outcomes on TO's and ST......and not on our horrid D all the time.................that is precisely how we beat the Texans.................I am an optimist but I am a realist first................this team has no chance form the get go................

I've backed on to the Schwarz can't get it done bandwagon. Not as livid as most of you guys. But the Bulluck comments about letting players make plays struck a chord with me.

I haven't loved Chow. But he has been better.

Wide receivers certainly haven't moved forward. So questions are legitimate there.

I just can't get with the Fire Fisher crew. But it may be a moot point given Jerry Jones interest.

Fisher is a .500 coach..................why do we value mediocrity.............is it because we are afraid of change? I say look at the teams who have changed HC...............are they that bad off?

but what is the point of that, besides I rather have VY take his lumps in his rookie season, I don't mind him throwing 15-20 picks this year, as long as we trying to win or at least in games at the end- look at Peyton Manning took his rookie lumps, but is the best QB in the NFL now...

on a different view though, I do agree with you on a great running game, Henry is good, but I don't think he is the right guy to put beside LW, we need a more balanced back like Chris Perry, shoot, maybe even Marshawn Lynch if we could get him in the draft (but rather have Calvin Johnson)- my dream for the Titans is two have two elite backs with White and someone else, one dominant WR in Calvin Johnson (who some scouts say is a bigger, faster Jerry Rice), and an amazing QB he is at times flat out unstoppable, you talk about the Falcons running game, they wouldn't even be able to match up with us, not only because we would have better backs but because we would have a dominant WR who would draw at least 2 man attention every play, and I didn't even mention David Givens or Ben Troupe- they wouldn't have to be even good just decent because of all the open looks and space they would get with so much attention focused on VY, CJ, LW, and unknown RB.......

Conventional wisdom says you don't run the ball when you're down big. Unfortunately, unless the defense steps up in a big way, we'll be spending most of the year trailing by double digits. I say keep running the ball, no matter what the score, well into the second half.

Unless, of course, you'd prefer the alternative....asking a rookie QB and mediocre WR's to win a shootout. Can you say "Oakland Raiders"? Can you say it without throwing up in your mouth? Me either.

If nothing else, run the ball just to keep opposing offenses off the field and slow the bleeding. Losing by two TD's hurts, but it's a lot less demoralizing than 37-7.

A running game also allows you to play for field position, as opposed to going 3-and-out repeatedly with incompletions.

I'm not talking about abandoning the passing game, or even a 2:1 ratio....all I'm asking for is an attack that doesn't abandon the running game in the first half. Do you realize that VY threw 16 passes and 2 INT's before Lendale White took a single snap this week? That's exactly what I'm talking about....and it's got to change if this team has any hope of establishing an identity this year.

that is my only problem we need to get LenDale White in the game early, he has too much talent to have to wait to the end of the 2nd or till the 3rd, if given the chances I bet he would be better then Henry, hits the line so hard and is hard to bring down, when he molds and uses his ability to be a heckuva a power back teams will have real problems with him...

Conventional wisdom says you don't run the ball when you're down big. Unfortunately, unless the defense steps up in a big way, we'll be spending most of the year trailing by double digits. I say keep running the ball, no matter what the score, well into the second half.

Unless, of course, you'd prefer the alternative....asking a rookie QB and mediocre WR's to win a shootout. Can you say "Oakland Raiders"?

If nothing else, run the ball just to keep opposing offenses off the field and slow the bleeding. Losing by two TD's hurts, but it's a lot less demoralizing than 37-7.

A running game also allows you to play for field position, as opposed to going 3-and-out repeatedly with incompletions.

I'm not talking about abandoning the passing game, or even a 2:1 ratio....all I'm asking for is an attack that doesn't abandon the running game in the first half. Do you realize that VY threw 16 passes and 2 INT's before Lendale White took a single snap this week? That's exactly what I'm talking about....and it's got to change if this team has any hope of establishing an identity this year.
im on that bandwagon.......................

hey Bongo who calls the plays?

game day Chow.............but Fisher and Chow put in the game plans on Monday and Tues...............Fisher is very involved in how he wants to attack..................last week him and Chow decided to throw...............even when Stroud was ruled out tues................and Henderson went out early....................I got issues with our staff..................sometimes things are not too hard................sometimes folks are too stubborn to do what is clear should be done instead of what they want done.............

Well i hope we actually run the ball on the first drive this week instead of 3 straight incomplete throws & i'd prefer it to be with lendale

but i wont press my luck because i know fish will give henry the start

why shouldnt travis start?

my fault, i used the wrong set of words. it should read more like, lendale should start getting more carries as opposed to not inserting him until the 3rd quarter, get him into the flow early in the game

I have no problem at all with Travis starting, but I'd like to see a LOT more of Lendale than what we've seen thus far. Something like a 60/40 split.....Travis getting 20-25 carries per game, and 12-15 carries for Lendale.

my fault, i used the wrong set of words. it should read more like, lendale should start getting more carries as opposed to not inserting him until the 3rd quarter, get him into the flow early in the game
fair enough

HE would play LW and TH a ton regardless of the score.............if we really want to get back to smashmouth football we need to pound it to the ground and get the RB and OL in rhythm.............
I would love this but is it realistic? Would you think Fisher had lost his mind if he didn't throw the football? I think most would see it as Fisher being stubborn or giving up.

He would give all the young guys chances for significant playing time..........and see what we have..............we dont need to see guys like Sirmon and Woolfolk and Bennett.............play the pups
Bennett is the most productive WR on the roster right now. Who would you prefer to play? Though I see the need to get the younger guys experience, pulling better players to do so isn't smart, IMO. You don't hand over a job for the sake of just looking at other players. What kind of message does that send to those who out perform others?

We need to be more aggressive on D since we are over matched.............that means run blitzing and gap control with the front 7 and I think we need to be a higher % blitzing team across all down and distances................
No argument from me here. I would go aggressive unless the front four is getting penetration as they did against the Texans in the first half.

....Bennett is the most productive WR on the roster right now.....

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I would love this but is it realistic? Would you think Fisher had lost his mind if he didn't throw the football? I think most would see it as Fisher being stubborn or giving up.

Answer, Fisher mind is not the issue..........the long term team is the issue. We have played by conventional rules and have six losses and those losses were horrendous. The definition of stupidity is to continue on the same path and yet faced with similar results continue the expectation of change...................that is crazy

Bennett is the most productive WR on the roster right now. Who would you prefer to play? Though I see the need to get the younger guys experience, pulling better players to do so isn't smart, IMO. You don't hand over a job for the sake of just looking at other players. What kind of message does that send to those who out perform others?

ANSWER,Bennett is not productive................in relative terms he just gets more chances than others...............I would submit our most productive player is Lendale White who gets too few chances.


No argument from me here. I would go aggressive unless the front four is getting penetration as they did against the Texans in the first half.ANSWER..................DITTO

So Bongo.....How do you get this inside information??

He is Pacman.

bongo is the man in nashville :spud:

No argument from me here. I would go aggressive unless the front four is getting penetration as they did against the Texans in the first half.

Is this something of a turn around TJ?

This is what we Schartz bashers were calling for all along. I'd rather we show some fight & get burned than get bent over so bad Amnesty International is looking at our D play calling.

Amnesty International is looking at our D play calling.


Heh.....that was pretty funny. :D

I think we should hire a playcaller....

Bongo, I agree with you. The offense needs to call plays as if the score is tied or is close even if it is a blowout. No one benefits much when you are forced to become one dimensional with a rookie QB. Balance is the key to try and help VY's development and that is what this yr is about.

In terms of the defensive scheme against the run we are so basic that it is simple for teams to run on us. No matter down or distance it is the job of the front four to try and penetrate and get to the QB. This scheme makes it very easy for the OL to get to the LBs. All the Rb has to do is blow by the out of position/no gap control DL and they are in for a good gain because our LBs have OL on top of them. I'm also not sure if Schwartz has ever heard the term run blitz. I'd much rather have the job of our DTs be to hold up the G/C to help free our LBs to make plays.

Their is no excuse to not give young guys a shot to produce when the vet infront of them isn't getting the job done. I think this does more harm to a locker room than demoting an underperforming vet. Especially when you have a young team. You must be willing to show them that hard work pays off. This is another reason why I want to see us start extending young guys contracts before they get to their final yr. It is a great motivational tool to know that if you bust your butt you might be one of the lucky few to get an extension early and thus more $$$.

Our 6 losses were not all 37-7 type blowouts. In fact, we had a good shot to beat the Jets, Dolphins and even the Colts.

However, the players need to be accountable...just like the coaches do. It starts at the top. We can't fire the GM nor the HC during the season nor should we fire Chow during the season because we need VY to devlop during the year. However, we can fire position coaches and...more importantly...the DC. A message needs to be sent.

And this put guys on notice thing needs to be enforced. If you can't play, we'll keep trying different people til we find someone who CAN. Bench LT and give Fuller or Lowry a start....give Woolfolk practice time at FS too. If Hill stinks, bench him and give Finnegan or Woolfolk a start. When guys start losing playing time and go from a starter to a backup (who has to EARN a starting job), players will start busting their tails. Right now, if I was LT, I wouldn't be too worried. One good game in 8 vs 7 bad ones appears to be good enough to remain a starter on Schwartz's D. Yet another reason Schwartz must go.

I believe we have to go back to an offensive System closer to what we had with Eddie George in his prime and a young Steve McNair. POUND THE BALL and let VY convert 3rd and 2-4 yds. Goal is to MOVE THE CHAINS...giving us good TOP, the best position (rest and field position) for our D, and keep the score lower so we don't have to abandon our game plan and force VY to throw it 90% of the second half.

There are 2 statistics which have the best correlation to wins. Turnovers and carries. The team with the fewer turnovers usually wins. Teams that run the ball the most typically turn the ball over less. And teams that get 30+ (or the most) carries usually win. Pounding the rock works well for both of these strategies and will take a lot of pressure off of VY.

LenDale White needs a MINIMUM of 10 carries a game with another 15-20 from Henry (unless LT gets a start). I would like to see us get 30 carries a game (NOT including VY's runs).

Problem is...we can barely block a front 7 and if our run to pass ratio breaks 50%, teams will load 8 and 9 in the box and force us to throw. Of course, this is how you get VY to make big passing plays off of playaction or his feet. Plus, with all that run blocking tape, it'll be easier to see who on the OL is getting it done and who is not.

If we are down by 30 in the 4th Q, all young players should play if they deserve to play. This IS the time to get a Brandon Jones or Roby on the field IF they've earned that in practice. Same on D. This is also the time to pull our best players....can't risk Bulluck getting injured the last 2 minutes of a blowout game!

Until we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs...we start the best players. If we are eliminated from the playoffs, we get all the young players significant playing time.

Gut

Is this something of a turn around TJ?

This is what we Schartz bashers were calling for all along. I'd rather we show some fight & get burned than get bent over so bad Amnesty International is looking at our D play calling.
I see I have been misunderstood. ;)

I have never cared for many of Schwartz's schemes as I don't many of Chow's. But I don't pretend to know more about football than either of these two people.

My "defense" of Schwartz is that he receives too much of the blame for when players don't execute. I assume he would again if his scheme went to a high-pressure defense and Hill and LT were repeatedly burned on big plays.

Hill has never ever been burnt in his life.

What blasphemy is this.

funny how before last week Fisher was not the problem and we need to keep him. We played possibly the best team in the AFC after Indy sunday, a team that had thrown 2 shutouts at home already, and in pouring rain mind you. Sure, our D needs to be around the line of scrimmage more so backups like Garrard don't get all day to roam and gain first down on 3rd and 9 running the ball, but you also have to remember Fat Albert ain't there, Pacman wasn't there, and neither was Thornton, but for 2 plays. Hope wasn't able to head hunt as he usually does because he had to worry about coverage. Let's see what happens Sunday with Pacman in there, Thornton in there, and Hope doing his usual head hunting...

I found the we are going to make the playoffs threads funnier.

Right now there is no fear that Vince is going to beat anyone with his arm. Teams are loading up on us, which is shutting down the run. Without the run we lose time of possession and the defense stays on the field entirely too long. We aren't loaded with talent on defense anyway, and as someone pointed out, without AH, Pac and Thornton last week, we are helpless. We can only win games right now with either a high run production or turnovers. If neither happens, chances are we don't win.

I see I have been misunderstood. ;)

I have never cared for many of Schwartz's schemes as I don't many of Chow's. But I don't pretend to know more about football than either of these two people.

My "defense" of Schwartz is that he receives too much of the blame for when players don't execute. I assume he would again if his scheme went to a high-pressure defense and Hill and LT were repeatedly burned on big plays.

I'm sure your right about Schwartz being damned if he does ,damned if he doesn't. I gave him a pass to some extent against the Jags because he had a lot of issues to deal with personnel wise.

It was interesting to hear Fisher say recently how we've been limited in play calling on the D because of some of the players we are having to start. Made me wonder just how much Fisher is involved in the scheme in game planning & Schwartz is probably left to run it by & large on his own once the game starts.

Me personally I'd like to see a change at DC. Chow I don't know if he should get another year or not. I feel we've been limited more on the O than on the D but it's a concern that Chow is a wiz an automatic transmission(college) but can't handle a stick shift (NFL).

Yes the buck stop's with Fisher & he has to be accountable but it's easier to change co-ordinators than a head coach. As I believe you yourself have stated elsewhere, a change in HC will set the franchise back at least a year on top of where we are now. A new HC would want to bring in their own type of players & put their own stamp on the team.

As we've seen this year with so many teams having new HC's it's not a quick fix by any stretch.

Herm Edwards is starting to do things with the Chiefs now after a shaky start but is he really doing any more than Vermeil would have? Sean Payton is the only new HC who's really done something but even that isn't a clean cut scenario. The Saints are over achieving & riding a wave of euphoria from unusual circumstances surrounding the team.

Armchair fans are the worst kind of critics & I'm as guilty as any of them.

Given the chance to talk football to Schwartz though I'd be humble & respectful & would try to make the most out of the opportunity to learn about his side of the game. I would though give him my opinion on his play calling & be confident that I could hold my own in an intelligent conversation about the game without winding him up. I know full well that he'd have an answer to every one of my criticisms & no doubt a reason why my ideas wouldn't work. :grrhee:

I have read two quotes from Fisher which has questioned the ability of some of his players. And this just wasn't the depth. It was in general.

Here's an example from earlier this season:

"I think through the OTA’s you saw the personality taking shape. Again, I’ve never been concerned about the personality of this team. Talent level, yes, and ability to execute, yes, those are questions."

That's something I've not seen in the past.

I have not ruled out the possibility of seeing a whole new coaching staff (HC/DC/OC) and/or general manager by next year

I honestly feel that the only way to remove Schwartz from the picture is to first remove Jeff, he's not going to do it on his own; Chow probably falls too as a new HC would surely bring staff with him

exactly, if you want Schwartz to go, Fisher has to go too. plain and simple.

That's the only way Schwartz leaves TN, cause i refuse to believe Fish would fire him....

funny how before last week Fisher was not the problem and we need to keep him. We played possibly the best team in the AFC after Indy sunday, a team that had thrown 2 shutouts at home already, and in pouring rain mind you. Sure, our D needs to be around the line of scrimmage more so backups like Garrard don't get all day to roam and gain first down on 3rd and 9 running the ball, but you also have to remember Fat Albert ain't there, Pacman wasn't there, and neither was Thornton, but for 2 plays. Hope wasn't able to head hunt as he usually does because he had to worry about coverage. Let's see what happens Sunday with Pacman in there, Thornton in there, and Hope doing his usual head hunting...i will be more clear................anyone who knows me knows I fell off Fisher's bandwagon in early Jan of 2000...............I have wanted change since then and have never wavered...................he is only a .500 coach with no championships.....................and a terrible game day coach who can not adjust well.

I honestly feel that the only way to remove Schwartz from the picture is to first remove Jeff, he's not going to do it on his own; Chow probably falls too as a new HC would surely bring staff with him

I agree. And for the good of the team I would see Fisher go if that meant Schwartz left as well. The defense has regressed over time even with more talent. There are no changes to see if things work when it is clear other things are not working.

Man imagine if Fisher went and the new coach retained Schwartz. :eek:

So Bongo.....How do you get this inside information??
well i dont kno how he does it but i have a simple solution, just get chad johnson trade for him or whatever, that way we have Mr ocho-cinco on our team so now we have a stud at WR and we have someone thats not afraid to speak their mind and will say anything, that way he have a big play guy at WR and get all the info that we could ever need! problem solved =]

Im not suggesting we should throw the towel in when we are down by 21, but how many teams come back from that. Like Bongo says, create an indentity. Stuff the ball down their throats with LW and TH. Doing that will shorten the game, keep the offense on the field and not put to much on a young Vince Young. Pick your moments to pass. When you pass, send someone deep to take away the safety. Send Troupe over the middle (about 15 yards), keep 1 back in to block and the other run a route.
Blitz more on defense. Dont worry about the statistical probablity that you will get burn. 80% of statistics are made up on the spot. Blitz, blitz, and blitz. Hit hard, if you get a personal foul, then so be it(as long it isnt a stupid personal foul). Tear the WR heads off.

I agree. And for the good of the team I would see Fisher go if that meant Schwartz left as well. The defense has regressed over time even with more talent. There are no changes to see if things work when it is clear other things are not working.

Man imagine if Fisher went and the new coach retained Schwartz. :eek:

TALK ABOUT MY WORST NIGHTMARE!!!

Gut

I fear one day Gut, you will achieve a never ending post.

Thank goodness we moved to the dedicated server before Gut made his return. ;)

Bongo's idea of running no matter what was always the strategy I thought we should use against the Colts. In fact, play like it is the 4th Qt and you want to run as much clock as possible because you are ahead. As bad as our defense is part of the problem is the offense (if not a huge part of the problem). We need to shorten the game as much as possible which also gives our defense more rest and their offense fewer chances.

Then, after you have run the ball a zillion times you can try a play action pass and look for the big play on occasion. Script plays for Young and let our RBs get lots of carries. The whole offense is a joke and I've basically had it with Chow. The guy obviously has no clue of what he is doing.

If the Titans fall behind 21-0 and continue running the ball up the middle, the people on this board and every other board would go off the deep end, the team would be booed out of the stadium and Norm Chow would be run out of town on a rail. Plus, teams are already loading eight and nine in the box because they know we can't throw, so the running wouldn't accomplish much.

Other than that, it's a great idea.

Bongo's idea of running no matter what was always the strategy I thought we should use against the Colts. In fact, play like it is the 4th Qt and you want to run as much clock as possible because you are ahead. As bad as our defense is part of the problem is the offense (if not a huge part of the problem). We need to shorten the game as much as possible which also gives our defense more rest and their offense fewer chances.

Then, after you have run the ball a zillion times you can try a play action pass and look for the big play on occasion. Script plays for Young and let our RBs get lots of carries. The whole offense is a joke and I've basically had it with Chow. The guy obviously has no clue of what he is doing.


Let's remember we had a chance to beat the Colts. We had a first down at THEIR 45. A bad pass by Vince, a stuffed (predictable) run on second down, and then another wonderful pass call by Chow 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage ruined that deal.

The whole offense is a joke and I've basically had it with Chow. The guy obviously has no clue of what he is doing.
Are you serious? No clue?

I have my criticisms of Chow but I would take it this far. Don't you put a little of the blame on the players who whiff blocks, drop passes, make bad throws, etc.?

i think we can go ahead and stash this thread in the "If you listen to the fans, pretty soon you'll be sittin with 'em" file.

I fear one day Gut, you will achieve a never ending post.

Now THAT would be quite a feat!!!

:))

As much as I dislike watching "pound the ball" games, I'm sad to say that this team needs to stay away from pass plays.

"When you pass the ball, only 3 things can happen, and 2 of them are bad."
We seem to be getting a lot of the bad ones nowadays.

And will somebody please explain to me what the purpose of running up the middle is?? I see this play over and over again all over the league, and it always gets the same results. Nobody I know understands it, and I'm not sure I'm buying the TOP angle, because the whistle blows pretty darn quick on that one.
And like I insinuated above, running to set up the pass looks pretty painful also.

When the whistle blows on a running play, the clock does not stop.

Floyd just hasn't brought in the talent. Hopefully, Bud Adams will realize that after this year and do something about. I like Fishers "pund the running game" philosphy but you can only do so much with what you've got. Henry and White are fine backs but when you can't pass you leave yourself one dimensional and your stuck. All they have to do is stack up the box and let Vince try to beat them with the pass. Other than a couple of slips by the Colts and Skins, where we snuck in there and ran the ball, I think most teams will be on to us and they'll be slamming the door on the run. If something doesn't change in the passing game we're going to continue to suck week after week. considering we haven't had a legitimate #1 wide reciever since DMase left I don't see our passing game improving dramatically anytime soon.

Hey bongo, your bias is showing again.

We dont need to get rid of Fisher, I think that to do that is a joke, hes been able to bring a ssomewhat competetive team to thee field everry sunday when we suck, and when teh team was good, everyone they pplayed knew it, he knows how to win games, the problem is, were to young to know how to play to win