View Full Version : Laron Landry - How high?


Carpy
11-17-2006, 10:50 PM
He would be a great fit for us. If we win a few games and end up picking in the bottom half of the top 10, I could easily see him being our 1st round pick. How high would you take him? Is top 5 out of the question?

bigtitan53279
11-17-2006, 11:07 PM
i havent been very impressed. i dont know if there are any defensive guys worth taking in the top five or top eight this year. maybe alan branch, dt from michigan.

Pit Bull #53
11-17-2006, 11:19 PM
I would not touch him in the top 5. I have no doubts that he is going to be a good player in the NFL, but I haven't seen the impact plays from him this year to warrant that high of a pick. I'd probably give him a grade in the 10-15 range.

i havent been very impressed. i dont know if there are any defensive guys worth taking in the top five or top eight this year. maybe alan branch, dt from michigan.

Gaines Adams will likely be a top 5 player, as he should be, unless he bombs his workouts. I don't get why people say he's been inconsistent this year. I've watched him for the majority of the season and he's been very productive.

Titans2008
11-18-2006, 11:28 AM
I like Gaines Adams. I've watched Landry a few times and he hasn't impressed me at all. One player that will be a stud is Patrick Willis. I know we don't need a MLB right now with Tulloch showing promise, but if he drops to the 2nd, I'm thinking about taking him anyways.

DeutschTitan
11-18-2006, 12:07 PM
Dude, we need a MLB in the worst way. Tulloch hasn't shown much of anything. I just don't know about Gaines Adams anymore. From what I've read, scouts are seeing him more as a OLB in a 3-4, a Merrimon type guy. I keep hearing this Branch guy from Michigan is good, but his stats are abismal from what I've seen.

bigtitan53279
11-18-2006, 12:37 PM
Dude, we need a MLB in the worst way. Tulloch hasn't shown much of anything.

i would strongly disagree

I keep hearing this Branch guy from Michigan is good, but his stats are abismal from what I've seen.
you cant judge a DT by stats.

Pit Bull #53
11-18-2006, 06:08 PM
I just don't know about Gaines Adams anymore. From what I've read, scouts are seeing him more as a OLB in a 3-4, a Merrimon type guy.

He can definately play OLB in a 3-4, but he's not going to be the type that's relegated to one position. He can play 3-4 OLB, and just as effectively play 4-3 DE. It will all be dependant on which type of teams drafts him.

Titansfan10
11-19-2006, 12:00 AM
calvin johnson!

TitanKid4Life
11-19-2006, 12:29 AM
calvin johnson!
:yes:

Gut
11-19-2006, 03:11 AM
calvin johnson!

Even in a Laron Landry question we get Calvin Johnson as the answer!!!!

At least you guys are consistent!

Gut

Gut
11-19-2006, 03:14 AM
It really is gonna depend on who comes out, bowl games, all star games, combine, pro day and then where he stacks up projection wise.

Right now I'd say mid-1st though if he blows away scouts with a fast 40 for example, I could see him around 8. Without knowing who and how many juniors are coming out, it's hard to guess...especially at S.

Gut

TitanKid4Life
11-19-2006, 11:14 PM
michael griffin? he hits hard, or hows about dre slay he hits unbelievably hard, look him up on youtube

Pit Bull #53
11-19-2006, 11:15 PM
You want a big hitter? Reggie Nelson.

Snookus
11-19-2006, 11:25 PM
michael griffin? he hits hard, or hows about dre slay he hits unbelievably hard, look him up on youtube
There is no Dre Slay on YouTube.

TitanKid4Life
11-19-2006, 11:28 PM
h/o i probably messed up the name ill find what it is and type say

TitanKid4Life
11-19-2006, 11:42 PM
ok sorry, i found it, his name is dwayne slay, not sure if he always hits like those but i like it, he caused a couple fumbles that game

Gunny
11-20-2006, 12:35 AM
:ha: Dre Slay

Snookus
11-20-2006, 12:40 AM
ok sorry, i found it, his name is dwayne slay, not sure if he always hits like those but i like it, he caused a couple fumbles that game
I had a feeling you were talking about Dwayne Slay, I really liked the guy. Is he still a FA? I know he went undrafted.

Titans2008
11-20-2006, 09:46 AM
I think he ran like a 4.9 at the combine.

GLinks
11-20-2006, 09:55 AM
I think I remember he got picked up.

Johnathan Wade, CB from UT. He can play like Pacman, without the attitude.

bigtitan53279
11-20-2006, 10:29 AM
You want a big hitter? Reggie Nelson.
reggie nelson is someone i REALLY like. he is a true center fielding safety. i have seen him lineup directly in the middle of the field and make a play on the sideline. he has great range.

Gut
11-20-2006, 03:11 PM
Neslon the FS on Oregon???

Gut

Pit Bull #53
11-20-2006, 03:49 PM
Florida. He's a junior, but rumored to come out early, because he doesn't have much of an interest in school. Not sure if that is indicative of his overall character or not. I think right now he's a borderline 1st/2nd rounder.

He was slated to play CB for the Gators this year, so he should be able to man up and cover if needed. Like bigtitan said, he has good speed and range, and he can lay the lumber. I've seen numerous times this year where he's dislodged completions and caused alligator arms just from being in the vicinity.

I really like him as long as his character checks out (I honestly don't know)

Roos Train71
11-20-2006, 05:09 PM
I thought Landry was a SS? We need Thompson replaced before we can even think of being a contender....depending on how Finnegen performs over the rest of season (assuming he starts) we need to take either a FS or a CB...our secondary is to pathetic not to draft an impact safety or CB

Gunny
11-20-2006, 06:18 PM
I believe we don't have specific Free and Strong Safeties.

TitanKid4Life
11-20-2006, 08:14 PM
i just want a saftey like hope that hits hard, or a ball hawk like huff was

Gut
11-21-2006, 09:38 PM
i just want a saftey like hope that hits hard, or a ball hawk like huff was

Landry has the range and athleticism to be an excellent player though he hasn't improved this year from last year...which is dissappointing since I thought he'd take it up a notch.

This kid Reggie they're talking about will rival him as the top Safety if he comes out. He's got legit 4.4 speed, can ball hak and is one of the hardest hitters on Florida. I got that from some of my draftnik friends as I haven't watched much Florida this year yet.

Gut

Titans2004
11-21-2006, 10:48 PM
If Nelson comes out then it is going to be a tremendous safety draft and value will be had in the 2nd rnd for sure.

I've been disappointed the few times I've watched LSU this yr in terms of the lack of plays that Landry has made on the ball. No doubt he can hit, but I haven't seen great ball awareness.

Michael Griffin is a playmaker. He brings the lumber and has ballhawk skills. Only downside is that often he isn't disciplined and bites on playaction.

bigtitan53279
11-21-2006, 10:53 PM
landry got run over by tim tebow, that turned me away from him.

Pit Bull #53
11-21-2006, 10:58 PM
landry got run over by tim tebow, that turned me away from him.

I know the exact play you're talking about, and that wasn't Landry like the broadcasters said it was. Landry was in on the play, but the guy that got trucked was Jesse Daniels, LSU's starting SS.

Smart***Titan
11-22-2006, 10:42 AM
I am a monster UF fan so I am a little biased, however Reggie Nelson is an absolute animal. Forget legit 4.4 speed, this kid has legit 4.3 speed, he is a little light (about 185-190lbs) but he hits like a ton of bricks. He broke some kids jaw in the endzone last year, and split open another one's chin on a near identical play. He has great coverage skills, and is not afraid to take on the big RB's in the SEC. Unfortunately (for us perhaps) he is getting some great press as he is a finalist (final 3) for the top DB in college, and a finalist (final 5) for the best defensive player period in the nation. Landry is on neither of these lists. If the titans get a chance to get him in the second round the should have the card to the podium in about 2 seconds. As it stands right now, if we win more games then I think we do for the rest of the season and have a pick in the area of 10th or later, I think you give him serious consideration. Pac, Nelson, Hope, and who ever our second corner will be (Hill, Finnegan, or a FA) have the makings of a serious ball hawking, great tackling secondary.

Gut
11-22-2006, 11:28 AM
I am a monster UF fan so I am a little biased, however Reggie Nelson is an absolute animal. Forget legit 4.4 speed, this kid has legit 4.3 speed, he is a little light (about 185-190lbs) but he hits like a ton of bricks. He broke some kids jaw in the endzone last year, and split open another one's chin on a near identical play. He has great coverage skills, and is not afraid to take on the big RB's in the SEC. Unfortunately (for us perhaps) he is getting some great press as he is a finalist (final 3) for the top DB in college, and a finalist (final 5) for the best defensive player period in the nation. Landry is on neither of these lists. If the titans get a chance to get him in the second round the should have the card to the podium in about 2 seconds. As it stands right now, if we win more games then I think we do for the rest of the season and have a pick in the area of 10th or later, I think you give him serious consideration. Pac, Nelson, Hope, and who ever our second corner will be (Hill, Finnegan, or a FA) have the makings of a serious ball hawking, great tackling secondary.

I know of no one or any site that I trust list Nelson with 4.3 speed. As far as I know, he's been timed twice with a 4.42 and a 4.47. He was 5'11 1/2 and 195lbs last year.

He's an excellent player and a top 20 player in the 2008 class, but we'll see how he works out and how he plays in the 'big' game coming up. Oh, AND if he comes out. If he can run in the low 4.4 to high 4.3 range, he won't make it our of the first rnd I wouldn't think. Again, depends on who else comes out.

Landry not being a finalists for the same awards doesn't mean he won't be a great NFL player just like winning the Heisman doesn't mean you'll even become a starter in the NFL. These awards are for how you played and don't have a correlation to making the transition to the NFL.

However, I think we'd ALL love to see Reggie playing FS for us next to Hope!

Gut

wplatham
11-22-2006, 11:35 PM
I just think we've gotta have an impace safety and right DE sometime during the next offseason. Unfortunately, I don't know of any FA that fit the bill, with the exception of Freeney, and that's unlikely. I think defense has to come before offense in this draft. (Sorry CJ fans). Depending on Haynesworth, we may need a DT, too.

Gunny
11-23-2006, 12:47 AM
WE may need a DT regardless of Haynesworth being here or not.

bigtitan53279
11-23-2006, 01:01 PM
This kid Reggie they're talking about will rival him as the top Safety if he comes out.
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061122/SPORTS/611220368

looks as though he's coming out

TWR#1
11-24-2006, 12:12 AM
I'm a huge a UF Fan,and I've seen Reggie Nelson play many times this year,and i even went to the Vandy game just to see him as a prospect.He played mostly center field the whole time like a deep safety,and he tackled very well...He also was great on special teams and blocked 2 punts....This guy reminds me of a Ed Reed in his all around preformance and versatillity.I'm almost deffinate he'll declare.

TWR#1
11-24-2006, 01:32 AM
and here some more info to back me up on Reggie Nelson coming out....


Florida's Reggie Nelson hasn't made it official, but his Mother, Mary Lakes expects the junior safety to leave the Gators in January for the NFL Draft. "I think he's going to walk," Lakes told FLORIDA TODAY. "I think he's decided he's going to say, 'I'm going to go give the NFL a try.' " Tuesday, Nelson was named as one of three finalists for the Jim Thorpe Award that goes to the nation's top defensive back.

Smart***Titan
11-24-2006, 10:12 AM
I know of no one or any site that I trust list Nelson with 4.3 speed. As far as I know, he's been timed twice with a 4.42 and a 4.47. He was 5'11 1/2 and 195lbs last year.



Gut

Reggie was timed at a 4.37 at the Nike combine as a High School senior. That's laser timed, start to finish, with a stand-still block start, same as NFL combine. He's also been timed faster at UF camps, but those are the times I hesitate to trust. Three years of college speed and weight training should not make him any slower, and he has not put on more than 15-20 lbs, which would be all muscle. Regardless, the guy is fast, and he is lightning fast for a safety. He's listed at 190 lbs on the UF website, but I still think that's a little heavier than his true weight, if you see him on the field he's cut, but he looks pretty thin. He was 177lbs when he showed up to campus last year as a soph, and obviously he has put on some weight. What I'm saying though, is if we go safety, and Mr. Nelson is available we had best pick him up.

Pit Bull #53
11-24-2006, 10:06 PM
Landry had by far his most impressive game of the year today. He showed great tackling skills and had an INT, though it was pretty much gift wrapped. He had one of those games where he just "flashed"...like he was in on every play. I've been watching all season for a game like this from him and have been disappointed to date. He hasn't had any bad games per se, but he hasn't stood out like a star player should, until today.

Gut
11-27-2006, 01:26 PM
Reggie was timed at a 4.37 at the Nike combine as a High School senior. That's laser timed, start to finish, with a stand-still block start, same as NFL combine. He's also been timed faster at UF camps, but those are the times I hesitate to trust. Three years of college speed and weight training should not make him any slower, and he has not put on more than 15-20 lbs, which would be all muscle. Regardless, the guy is fast, and he is lightning fast for a safety. He's listed at 190 lbs on the UF website, but I still think that's a little heavier than his true weight, if you see him on the field he's cut, but he looks pretty thin. He was 177lbs when he showed up to campus last year as a soph, and obviously he has put on some weight. What I'm saying though, is if we go safety, and Mr. Nelson is available we had best pick him up.

Thanks for the info...but I didn't mean he's NEVER run a 4.3, just not recently (last year or this year) cause that's what matters. As you said, adding on 15-20lbs will drop your 4.3 to a 4.4 in a hurry...even if it is all muscle.

But I agree, from what I've seen so far, he's the best combo of athlete and football player with high energy, will knock you out, ball skills, and plays in control. I like him!!!

Gut

bongo59
12-08-2006, 11:11 PM
very rarely will I throw cold water on a thread...............Nelson can't carry Landry's jock..............Landry will be HOF good................he is superfast and physical and can play in space or in the box.............only knock is ball hawking skills..............he is compared to Ronnie Lott and Donnie Shell...............Nelson is an athlete and hitter and he compares to well to Atkinson and DDarius..............solid player but Landry is elite.............Landry was hampered by a serious injury all yr and he was not allowed to play down low very much because of it.............but with the game on the line against ARK he told Jimbo Fisher he was going to stop McFadden and that is precisely what he did in crunch time................the film on Landry is deep and goes 4 yrs deep and he has been his teams leading tackler 4 yrs and in all of LSU history...............he is the backbone of a great college D and he will go very high..............the second best S is from FLa but not Nelson............it is Merriweather...........third best is Griffin from Texas........................Nelson will have to do so much in Mobile at combines and in work outs.................not impossible but not likely considering this deep class of S coming out................Jason Allen saved his best for Indy and Nelson will need the same post season to get up in the top 20

Pass Rush
12-08-2006, 11:19 PM
It's gonna be one hell of a race to see who gets #1 safety this year, but I reckon Landry will just beat out Nelson.

Titans2008
12-09-2006, 02:45 AM
Griffin better than Nelson? Lol bomb...

bongo59
12-09-2006, 09:54 AM
we will see very soon.

Bobo
12-09-2006, 02:07 PM
If Landry is compared to Lott, he'll have to be a ballhawk.

Gunny
12-09-2006, 02:17 PM
maybe he is missing part of his pinky finger.

bongo59
12-09-2006, 06:34 PM
If Landry is compared to Lott, he'll have to be a ballhawk.ronnie had the same mark coming out of USC...........and Ronnie was a CB in college he was switched to S in the NFL.............because of his bad hands

Bobo
12-09-2006, 07:01 PM
He's one of the all time career int leaders. If that's not ballhawking, I don't know what is.

wplatham
12-10-2006, 09:52 AM
OK, I can see Griffin ahead of Nelson, but Merriweather? Hasn't he stayed in trouble his entire time at Miami? He was also one of the guys that were suspended for the fight, wasn't he?

bigtitan53279
12-10-2006, 10:05 AM
OK, I can see Griffin ahead of Nelson, but Merriweather? Hasn't he stayed in trouble his entire time at Miami? He was also one of the guys that were suspended for the fight, wasn't he?
he was one of the guys who kicked someone while some dude was on the ground.

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Gunny
12-10-2006, 02:32 PM
Haynesworths apprentice.

GLinks
12-10-2006, 05:32 PM
That's what I was thinking.

Gut
12-12-2006, 02:13 AM
Merriweather is a very good player....but this isn't the first time he's had questionable behaviour. I believe he also pulled a gun on an 'assailant' and squeezed off a few rounds. While it was judged he acted legally, this does not bode well considering all the problems we've been having.

And right now, Nelson looks to be a first rnd pick. I had Merriweather in rnd 2 BEFORE the stomping incident. Depending on his background check, I doubt someone would take Merriweather in rnd 1 and he could easily drop to rnd 3.

Gut

Da Architek
12-12-2006, 05:17 PM
Merriweather is a very good player....but this isn't the first time he's had questionable behaviour. I believe he also pulled a gun on an 'assailant' and squeezed off a few rounds. While it was judged he acted legally, this does not bode well considering all the problems we've been having.

And right now, Nelson looks to be a first rnd pick. I had Merriweather in rnd 2 BEFORE the stomping incident. Depending on his background check, I doubt someone would take Merriweather in rnd 1 and he could easily drop to rnd 3.

Gut

Cinncinatti should have no problem at all drafting him then! He would fit right in! :)

Gut
12-12-2006, 05:32 PM
Cinncinatti should have no problem at all drafting him then! He would fit right in! :)

:))

Burner28
12-21-2006, 04:25 PM
You want a big hitter? Reggie Nelson.

Yeah I really like Nelson but I like landry better.

PAtitansfan53
12-21-2006, 06:13 PM
I like RN the most he does it all covers, run support, hits, and is a ballhawk whilemost of that goes for Landry except his coverage skills aren't the best and seems to like the big hit more than a pick these days. Nelson also has more speed than Landry about high 4.3's to low 4.4's or better and Landry is about the mid 4.5's just throwin it out there not saying it's gonna make RN better but he would be my choice come April.

bongo59
12-22-2006, 12:35 AM
Landry ran a 4.35 in front of scouts after his junior yr................Nelson is a flash in the pan.

Titans2008
12-22-2006, 12:14 PM
I thought Nelson was just a JR...

I haven't really broken apart tape for these two. But I have seen them play multiple times and it seems like Nelson is always around the ball and made several nice open field plays. I never even noticed Landry if not for the commentators talking about him.

LazyManJackson
12-22-2006, 12:20 PM
I thought Landry has average speed?...

PAtitansfan53
12-22-2006, 12:52 PM
I thought Landry has average speed?...

Me too I doubt he ran a 4.35, and Nelson is no flash in the pan if Urban Meyer is calling him the best defensive players he's ever coached. And I would bet the house RN runs better than LL at the combine and whenver else.

Titans2004
12-22-2006, 01:08 PM
I just haven't been as impressed with LL's ballhawking skills. I think he will make a better SS type of guy in the pros. Whereas I'm hoping that the Titans go for a true FS with range and great ball skills. I think Nelson is better in that category.

this is going to be one of the best safety classes to come along in awhile.

If you want a guy that makes plays then Michael Griffin certainly falls into that category. I worry that he is always looking for the spectacular play and thus blows some assignments.

Gut
12-28-2006, 10:28 PM
Landry ran a 4.35 in front of scouts after his junior yr................Nelson is a flash in the pan.

Hand held or electronic? Indoors or outdoors (with or against the wind)? Track or grass?

RN is out-flashing the declining stats of Landry. On the other hand, Landry is one of the leaders of arguably the best D in the Nation. We'll get a good feel for both in the Bowl games...especially with Nelson having to hold up against Troy Smith, Ginn Jr. and Gonzalez.

Gut