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NYTitansFan 01-31-2007, 05:28 AM its a good site
http://nexgenwars.com/
shocking news at the rate console sales are going for all three, it looks like the Wii will win
Gunny 01-31-2007, 05:43 AM Console Wars - The Wii Strikes Back.
It will be interesting the selling rates of Ps3 and 360 when they're prices drop.
NYTitansFan 01-31-2007, 05:53 AM yeah sony and microsoft are too powerful to lose the console wars.
NYTitansFan 01-31-2007, 05:58 AM some guy made a motion senser controller for the 360 similar to the ps3 motion sensered controller i wonder if Microsoft will add it to there controls now:ha:
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Gunny 01-31-2007, 06:39 AM geez I dunno if i could control a game like that.
NYTitansFan 01-31-2007, 09:08 AM geez I dunno if i could control a game like that.
it would be intresting
OILERTATTOO 01-31-2007, 10:24 AM I am not too impressed with how the PS3 currently handles it.
The Wii executes this stuff very well, but the novelty has already worn off on me.
My daughter played the hell out of the Wii at first, but now has gone back to primarily playing the 360.
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shocking news at the rate console sales are going for all three, it looks like the Wii will win
As much as Nintendo wants to attribute the current Wii success to its controller, I think that the cheap price tag and the lack of good games on the other two consoles are big reasons for this success as well. The Wii is currently selling cheaper than the current-gen consoles when they first came out - that's something to take into consideration.
One has to wonder if they'll be able to keep it up, though. The amount of great and impressive games will certainly increase for the 360 and PS3, eventually. And as much fun as it might be to wave your arms and hit a tennis ball with a bubble-head doll, it could get old at some point - I remember how fun it was to shoot ducks with the plastic gun from the first Nintendo console, but I got bored after a while.
Regardless, Nintendo is making a huge profit right now, and the Wii will more than likely keep selling pretty good throughout the year.
As for the 360 and PS3 - the 360 has sold in a year almost half the amount than the original Xbox sold in 3-4 years, so that's obviously good. The numbers for the PS3 might not be impressive, but they are actually not that bad if you consider the big price tag and lack of games. Not to mention that they have yet to launch in regions such as Europe and Australia.
LT21Titans27 02-01-2007, 09:11 PM [QUOTE=NYTitansFan]some guy made a motion senser controller for the 360 similar to the ps3 motion sensered controller i wonder if Microsoft will add it to there controls now:ha:
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i was never into the motion controls like that, its not like i move the pad when i play, i hold it
but the Wii is a different story, its interactive gaming
Ryudo 02-01-2007, 09:20 PM Console Wars - The Wii Strikes Back.
It will be interesting the selling rates of Ps3 and 360 when they're prices drop.
Since PS3 and 360 do NOT make profit as they lose money per system they sell don't expect a price drop anytime soon..in fact sony has been upfront they will not drop the price this year at all.
Gunny 02-01-2007, 09:41 PM Of course they won't.
But it will happen eventually
Since PS3 and 360 do NOT make profit as they lose money per system they sell don't expect a price drop anytime soon..
Actually, Microsoft has been making a profit (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746482p1.html) with the 360 as of late - there were even rumors of a possible price drop for last fall, but Microsoft has stated (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/736/736496p1.html) that they don't plan a price drop anytime soon... and with good reason.
NYTitansFan 02-03-2007, 02:24 AM Microsoft has stated[/URL] that they don't plan a price drop anytime soon... and with good reason.
yeah because buying one at the current price is a steal:))
Gunny 02-03-2007, 03:41 AM hardly
NYTitansFan 02-03-2007, 04:56 AM hardly
it really is considering what hardware is in it 3 processors at 3.2ghz each..well thats 400 big ones right there. don't get me wrong tho gunny i could say the same for the ps3(other than the 3 processors part..lol) allot of that hardware in the consoles are very expensive if you were to buy the hardware separately to build a extremely good gaming computer or something it would cost thousands of dollars.
Gunny 02-03-2007, 06:29 AM Well look at it this way - Microsoft are making a profit from each console they sell thus really the 360 is marked up so you are paying more...:grrhee:
NYTitansFan 02-04-2007, 12:56 AM not to further the arguement but microsoft is actually loseing money for each console they sell. look it up in google they get the money from the games
Gunny 02-04-2007, 01:23 AM not to further the arguement but microsoft is actually loseing money for each console they sell. look it up in google they get the money from the games
http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746482p1.html
NYTitansFan 02-05-2007, 11:37 PM yeah see sony is losing money too. the profit is from the games and i don't believe that Microsoft is gaining money from the system ive seen many other articles saying otherwise
Gunny 02-05-2007, 11:42 PM It depends when you saw them. Costs of manufacturing may have dropped.
But it is moot anyway. Games always make the system.
NYTitansFan 02-05-2007, 11:44 PM i dot get it if thats true because sony and Microsoft have basically the same specs. so how can sony be losing money than. oh yeah the flu-ray jk but still the xbox has 3 processors which makes up for the blu-ray so why is sony spending so much money on basically the same stuff. beyond my comprehension
Gunny 02-05-2007, 11:47 PM i dot get it if thats true because sony and Microsoft have basically the same specs. so how can sony be losing money than. oh yeah the flu-ray jk but still the xbox has 3 processors which makes up for the blu-ray so why is sony spending so much money on basically the same stuff. beyond my comprehension
no idea, specs aren't my area.:suspect:
NYTitansFan 02-05-2007, 11:49 PM have you decided on which to get yet?
Gunny 02-06-2007, 12:16 AM nah.
PS3 is out here in March and that will be $1000.
I will probably wait a year and see what games are out and what is coming out.
Where Metal Gear will be at and all that stuff.
NYTitansFan 02-06-2007, 10:39 PM nah.
PS3 is out here in March and that will be $1000.
I will probably wait a year and see what games are out and what is coming out.
Where Metal Gear will be at and all that stuff.
thats probably the best thing to do, but i hope you pick the right one;)
Gunny 02-06-2007, 11:07 PM And it will be cheaper.
NYTitansFan 02-06-2007, 11:54 PM And it will be cheaper.
right
Gunny 02-07-2007, 12:13 AM though it will still be $120 to buy a game.
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 12:14 AM console can have all the power it wants..without the games it aint worth **** and right now Wii and 360 for pretty much in 2007 have the games MUTIPLE big games...PS3 1 game and is IF it comes out on time in Q4 2007..MGS4.
360 ESP has the games through this year.
bigtitan53279 02-07-2007, 12:15 AM console can have all the power it wants..without the games it aint worth **** and right now Wii and 360 for pretty much in 2007 have the games MUTIPLE big games...PS3 1 game and is IF it comes out on time in Q4 2007..MGS4.
360 ESP has the games through this year.
also depends on which games you prefer. i hate FPS's, so i wont be getting a 360, since that's about all they're good for.
NYTitansFan 02-07-2007, 12:24 AM think about it gunny....man that would be fun playing gunny on xbox live :ha: dont worry i not trying to convert you over to the good side or anything
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 12:29 AM also depends on which games you prefer. i hate FPS's, so i wont be getting a 360, since that's about all they're good for.
So you don't know that Guitar hero 360 is coming out od from the creator of Final Fantasy who LEFT square to make RPGs just for 360 like Blue Dragon and Lost Oddessey coming out this year ..plus Namco has a few RPGs planned...Squarenix will no longer be Sony only in fact they are doing more with Nintendo than anyone these days and they plan to keep it that way...but yes FF13 will still be PS3 but Japans fave series/RPG Dragon Quest is Wii and DS now...and both Japan and the US Wii is greatly outselling PS3...looking much like history repeating itself (DS blowing out PSP)
bigtitan53279 02-07-2007, 12:42 AM So you don't know that Guitar hero 360
already have it for ps2, obviously without the added ten songs, but that's why i have a buddy with a 360!
most of the games i play are cross platform, but the ones im looking forward to the most are the ps3 exclusives(MGS4, god of war III, FF XIII, killzone II[one of the few FPS i like], and Tekken 6)
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 12:47 AM actually 360 one will let you download songs.
Plus VF5 for 360 and Assians creed on 360 (yes on PS3 also but 360 is cheaper)
Gunny 02-07-2007, 02:30 AM (yes on PS3 also but 360 is cheaper)
That's besides the point.
Heavenly Sword, Oblivion, F.E.A.R, Splinter Cell: DA, Rainbow Six, Saints Row, Lair, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, UT3, GTA4, Ratchet and Clank, Coded Arms, the untitled game from Naughty Dog (guys who make Jak and Daxter), Guitar Hero for PS3.
It's not like PS3 has nothing coming out.
Gunny 02-07-2007, 02:32 AM Squarenix will no longer be Sony only
They never were and all they really ever released on PS2 was Final Fantasy 10 to 12.
Gunny 02-07-2007, 02:33 AM think about it gunny....man that would be fun playing gunny on xbox live :ha: dont worry i not trying to convert you over to the good side or anything
I suck at those types of games online.
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 03:03 AM They never were and all they really ever released on PS2 was Final Fantasy 10 to 12.
Maybe in aussie but in the states they pretty much stuck with PS2 and LOADS and LOADS of RPGs from Square ..same with Japan.
Japan and the US are the largest markets for gaming.
NYTitansFan 02-07-2007, 05:57 AM That's besides the point.
Heavenly Sword, Oblivion, F.E.A.R, Splinter Cell: DA, Rainbow Six, Saints Row, Lair, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, UT3, GTA4, Ratchet and Clank, Coded Arms, the untitled game from Naughty Dog (guys who make Jak and Daxter), Guitar Hero for PS3.
It's not like PS3 has nothing coming out.
i heard somewhere that splinter cell DA is the last splinter cell to come out on multiple platforms. after that, new ones will only be on the 360.
GTA4 is also coming out for the 360 on launch too. so nothing special there
i also heard that the second saints row will come out on the 360. than on the ps3 awhile down the road like the gta series did
Rainbow Six is also on the 360...good game might i add(Vegas)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, F.E.A.R. and Warhawk all are also on the 360
heres all 360 games
HERE (http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=1029&tag=subnav;all)
Gunny 02-07-2007, 07:44 AM i heard somewhere that splinter cell DA is the last splinter cell to come out on multiple platforms. after that, new ones will only be on the 360.
GTA4 is also coming out for the 360 on launch too. so nothing special there
i also heard that the second saints row will come out on the 360. than on the ps3 awhile down the road like the gta series did
Rainbow Six is also on the 360...good game might i add(Vegas)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, F.E.A.R. and Warhawk all are also on the 360
heres all 360 games
HERE (http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=1029&tag=subnav;all)
oh I know they are 360 games as well but they are established games that are good.
All we need is Gears of War. :yes:
lol.
NYTitansFan 02-07-2007, 08:38 AM All we need is Gears of War. :yes:
lol.
lol for some reason im doubting that lol wishful thinking tho
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 02:22 PM That's besides the point.
Heavenly Sword, Oblivion, F.E.A.R, Splinter Cell: DA, Rainbow Six, Saints Row, Lair, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, UT3, GTA4, Ratchet and Clank, Coded Arms, the untitled game from Naughty Dog (guys who make Jak and Daxter), Guitar Hero for PS3.
It's not like PS3 has nothing coming out.
Guitar hero is NOT coming out for PS3 at least NOTHING announced and most those games are on 360 and the price is MAJOR factor...it's the biggest reason why most are not buying it when they can get the games on 360 for 200$ less....I know what games have street dates since I get to talk with our Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft reps...and have list on our computer at work...add to that any time people hear the price on PS3 then 360 then see what games ...they opt for 360..PS3's lay around unsold for LONG periods of time.
And in one of the two biggest gaming markets that is BAD.
Gunny 02-07-2007, 03:11 PM Guitar Hero will come out for PS3. It is all but confirmed.
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 03:56 PM Guitar Hero will come out for PS3. It is all but confirmed.
Link
because I have heard nothing about it and I need something solid not a bunch of rumour and word from one guy....if my SONY REP does not know then I think that is flat out lieing through wishful thinking.
HALL97ROX 02-07-2007, 04:16 PM aren't all ps2 games compatible with ps3?
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 04:22 PM aren't all ps2 games compatible with ps3?
97% of them and it's sounding like Guitar Hero II for PS2 with the controller situation may fall under that 3% :irked:
Gunny 02-07-2007, 06:00 PM Link
because I have heard nothing about it and I need something solid not a bunch of rumour and word from one guy....if my SONY REP does not know then I think that is flat out lieing through wishful thinking.
It's common sense. It is a major seller for Sony and that is what they need.
It is like saying after God of War came out, that there wouldn't be a second one. You know another will come out.
Plus they are already advertising for help on the next guitar hero game.
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 06:08 PM Just as I thought wishful thinking.
Gunny 02-07-2007, 07:02 PM It's hardly wishful thinking.
Halo on PS3 is wishful thinking.
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 08:32 PM with no news hints or even rumour it is wishful thinking and no matter what PS2 did developers ALWAYS go after what is CURRENTLY selling the most systems as in what is most popular and right now PS3 is losing badly ....if it was all about power PS2 would have lost and Gamecube and Xbox would have won..but PS2 was the most popular so most games were made for it..and right now Wii is the most popular overall and 360 is very popular in the US esp how PS3 is tough to program for while 360 is easier and so is Wii ... PS2 was not easy to devellop for but it's sales forced them into developing for it...if they have the option of going elseware they will in a heartbeat and right now they have that option to not develop for PS3 and some have openly stated they will skip the PS3 for a while.
been a gamer since the 80's and seen the wars over the years and can easily say PS3 is looking much like Saturn or N64 in terms of support.
Gunny 02-07-2007, 09:14 PM If sales forced them into developing games for them why were most of PS2 most popular games not ported to the x-box or gamecube?
Gunny 02-07-2007, 09:16 PM And there are hints and rumours.
As I said, the developers have positions available for the next Guitar Hero game.
http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/755/755984p1.html
Ryudo 02-07-2007, 11:37 PM If sales forced them into developing games for them why were most of PS2 most popular games not ported to the x-box or gamecube?
Because it would not have sold as well. :slap: and many ports for Xbox and GCN were ports of the PS2 version...why Madden always looked like crap when on Xbox or Gamecube....Gamecube was more powerful than PS2 easily ....PS2 had a 294 MHz CPU while GCN had a 485MHz CPU and Xbox 733 MHz..yet GCN sold 21 million systems and Xbox 24 million world wide...PS2 100 mill (granted much of that is the older brick systems sucked and broke down and people replaced them often) but there is still great demand for PS2 because of the games it has.
See the biz works as simple as this if system sells alot that is where the majority of the audience is so make money there if system does not sell as well..that is where less people buy the product...that is why PS2 had the most games...yes every once in a while a developer wants a system with power and tries to make a game on that console and sometimes it's great and sells well but that is a minority as there is a few exceptions to every rule.
PSp for example is much more powerful than DS but is has sold 19 mill systems world wide and DS has sold 35 mill ..in 2006 alone DS sold 27 million games and PSP sold 2 million games....many developers have dropped off PSP in favour of DS...many PS3 games have been cancled or moved to 360 or moved multiplatform because PS3 is just not selling/tough to develop for.
Gunny 02-08-2007, 12:32 AM many PS3 games have been cancled or moved to 360 or moved multiplatform because PS3 is just not selling/tough to develop for.
such as?
NYTitansFan 02-08-2007, 01:43 AM such as?
gta is now multi platform. mgs might be too
2 of playstations best games might i add
Gunny 02-08-2007, 04:06 AM That has nothing to do with the PS3 being hard to develop for, nor being canceled.
and GTA is massively over-rated.
i dot get it if thats true because sony and Microsoft have basically the same specs. so how can sony be losing money than. oh yeah the flu-ray jk but still the xbox has 3 processors which makes up for the blu-ray so why is sony spending so much money on basically the same stuff. beyond my comprehension
Having basically the same specs doesn't mean they are equal. The cell processor is very powerful by itself and it was created to run in many applications... the PS3 is just one of them. The 360's processor is actually cheaper to manufacture (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1497&Itemid=2) than the cell processor and blue ray.
iSuppli has a nice comparison table (http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919) between estimated costs of the PS3 and 360.
NYTitansFan 02-08-2007, 10:00 AM Having basically the same specs doesn't mean they are equal. The cell processor is very powerful by itself and it was created to run in many applications... the PS3 is just one of them. The 360's processor is actually cheaper to manufacture (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1497&Itemid=2) than the cell processor and blue ray.
iSuppli has a nice comparison table (http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919) between estimated costs of the PS3 and 360.
half the price just as good :rolleyes:
Because it would not have sold as well.
That logic would make sense for average and below average games, but definitely not for big games such as GTA, which was indeed ported to the Xbox -- the revenue might not be as big as on the PS2, but it will be worth it regardless.
As for Madden, the graphics on Xbox and Gamcube have always been equal or slightly better than the PS2.
many PS3 games have been cancled or moved to 360 or moved multiplatform because PS3 is just not selling/tough to develop for.
What games have been cancelled? I know that Konami cancelled some PS3 games (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/754/754307p1.html), though, some Wii games were cancelled as well. Another one is WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2007, but that was because of time constrains and they stated that the next version will be available on the PS3 (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/720/720579p1.html).
There are actually several games that are being ported to the PS3 such as Saints Row, Oblivion and Double Agent.
bigtitan53279 02-08-2007, 03:18 PM actually 360 one will let you download songs.
yes, but you have to pay for each individual song. **** that ****.
and my buddy is a GH fiend, so he will most definitely download them.
Ryudo 02-09-2007, 12:33 AM haha looks like it may be coming to Wii
http://wii.ign.com/articles/762/762725p1.html
bigtitan53279 02-09-2007, 12:36 AM no surprise, it fits in with the Wii. it's a great game, i dont see why every system wouldnt want to sell it. it's easily one of the highest sellers for the ps2.
Gunny 02-09-2007, 12:52 AM Still not hearing anything on it NOT coming to the PS3.
Because it will.
bigtitan53279 02-09-2007, 01:13 AM Still not hearing anything on it NOT coming to the PS3.
Because it will.
yeah, i think that's just pretty much assumed. i dont see any reason why it wouldnt.
bigtitan53279 02-09-2007, 02:42 AM seems like it will be available for all the next gen systems.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/733/733723p1.html
"guiatr hero's ps3 appearance is only a matter of time."
Squarenix will no longer be Sony only in fact they are doing more with Nintendo than anyone these days and they plan to keep it that way...
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/763/763512p1.html
TitanKid4Life 02-12-2007, 09:52 PM xbox 360 = da best
Gunny 02-26-2007, 11:31 PM I am very interested in the Star Wars: Force Unleashed game.
The Gloat 02-27-2007, 12:03 AM That Guitar Hero game is such cheese lol. That and Dance Dance Revolution. No way I could tell people I owned those if I truly did. And I don't. I swear. Seriously.
bigtitan53279 02-27-2007, 12:05 AM That Guitar Hero game is such cheese lol. That and Dance Dance Revolution. No way I could tell people I owned those if I truly did. And I don't. I swear. Seriously.
dancd dance is soooo yesterday, guitar hero is where it's now.
i am a proud owner of both guitar heroes, and i kick *** at them.
Gunny 02-27-2007, 12:25 AM never played either of them.
have no interest.
The Gloat 02-27-2007, 05:48 PM It's like faking playing guitar, but going through the motions. So why not just play a real guitar? I can't wait til Madden introduces the same technology so all my superstars run my 4.3 speed. Or not.
bigtitan53279 02-27-2007, 05:56 PM So why not just play a real guitar?
because real guitar take months to get good at, while you can just plug in guitar hero and jam. i dont care either way, i play both :nana3:
The Gloat 02-27-2007, 10:30 PM Word. My friends swear it's fun. I think I'll try American Idol the game first. haha
Vigsted 02-28-2007, 06:29 PM I am very interested in the Star Wars: Force Unleashed game.
You better be patient, afaik they're still very early in the design phase.
Gunny 02-28-2007, 06:31 PM afaik?
well i got time regardless.
PhiSlammaJamma 02-28-2007, 07:23 PM xbox 360 won. It's over.
Gunny 02-28-2007, 07:34 PM xbox 360 won. It's over.
hasn't even begun.
Yossarian 03-01-2007, 03:59 AM wii won.. mugged ps3 and xbox 360 in a dark alley
HALL97ROX 03-01-2007, 03:53 PM wii is a gimmick system with bad graphics, although it is a cheap one
Yossarian 03-01-2007, 05:00 PM Gimmick system.. maybe
more fun than the 360/PS3 IMHO ... yes
bigtitan53279 03-01-2007, 07:23 PM more fun than the 360/PS3 IMHO ... yes
for now, until the novelty wears off.
Gunny 03-01-2007, 07:42 PM or people get sick of broken TVs and injuries.
Yossarian 03-01-2007, 07:44 PM Who gets tired of Wii induced injuries?
Gunny 03-01-2007, 07:46 PM The chick who died wouldn't be to thrilled with the wii
Yossarian 03-01-2007, 07:53 PM The chick who died wouldn't be to thrilled with the wii
the one who died trying to get a Wii for her kids from that Radio station?...
Gunny 03-01-2007, 07:55 PM yeah the holding a wee for wii competition.
Yossarian 03-01-2007, 07:59 PM The chick who died wouldn't be to thrilled with the wii
that's the reason she died though.. she was so thrilled to get a Wii that she pushed herself past her body's tolerance...
poor family
Gunny 03-01-2007, 08:05 PM yes but not thrilled anymore.
Yossarian 03-01-2007, 08:06 PM ha.. wow.. not going to touch that
BigRed3 03-01-2007, 11:53 PM The Wii does induce some crazy injuries. I've only played it once, at an EB Games. And I was playing that crappy Zelda fishing game, and I got so into it that I had a sore shoulder immediately afterwards. Needless to say, the people in the store were looking at me funny. Pretty sure I broke a sweat trying to reel in a damn catfish that I had to throw back.
oochymp 03-02-2007, 12:10 AM the one who died trying to get a Wii for her kids from that Radio station?...
I heard it was the person who finished second, therefor, no Wii, I could be wrong tho
Yossarian 03-02-2007, 12:31 AM no your right.. she was going to finish 2nd anyways.. which makes it all the more tragic i suppose
BigRed3 03-03-2007, 11:33 AM I am officially on the DL because of a Wii injury. FYI.... don't try to imitate Fred Flinstone when Wii Bowling.
Gunny 03-03-2007, 06:16 PM :ha:
The Gloat 03-06-2007, 03:20 PM Gimmick system.. maybe
more fun than the 360/PS3 IMHO ... yes
ps3 has that same gimmicky attachment but better graphics and games, so you'd probably like it more.
http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a818/a818_bm.gif
tee hee hee
Ryudo 03-07-2007, 02:54 AM ps3 has that same gimmicky attachment but better graphics and games, so you'd probably like it more.
tee hee hee
You mean pelicans 8 year old technology that was in PSone that sixaxis uses?
And Nintendo's newer technology that uses ALL motion from Gyration corp they Ninty bought up.
hehehe I like where i work I can get free systems thanks to the program ticket my reps gave me. :greedy:
Yossarian 03-07-2007, 03:30 AM new things turn me on too Mr. Ryudo..
mdfan 03-24-2007, 09:43 PM Funny stuff on wii vs ps3
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