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NYTitansFan
01-31-2007, 05:28 AM
its a good site
http://nexgenwars.com/

shocking news at the rate console sales are going for all three, it looks like the Wii will win

Gunny
01-31-2007, 05:43 AM
Console Wars - The Wii Strikes Back.

It will be interesting the selling rates of Ps3 and 360 when they're prices drop.

NYTitansFan
01-31-2007, 05:53 AM
yeah sony and microsoft are too powerful to lose the console wars.

NYTitansFan
01-31-2007, 05:58 AM
some guy made a motion senser controller for the 360 similar to the ps3 motion sensered controller i wonder if Microsoft will add it to there controls now:ha:
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Gunny
01-31-2007, 06:39 AM
geez I dunno if i could control a game like that.

NYTitansFan
01-31-2007, 09:08 AM
geez I dunno if i could control a game like that.

it would be intresting

OILERTATTOO
01-31-2007, 10:24 AM
I am not too impressed with how the PS3 currently handles it.

The Wii executes this stuff very well, but the novelty has already worn off on me.

My daughter played the hell out of the Wii at first, but now has gone back to primarily playing the 360.

Later

Toly
01-31-2007, 11:53 AM
shocking news at the rate console sales are going for all three, it looks like the Wii will win

As much as Nintendo wants to attribute the current Wii success to its controller, I think that the cheap price tag and the lack of good games on the other two consoles are big reasons for this success as well. The Wii is currently selling cheaper than the current-gen consoles when they first came out - that's something to take into consideration.

One has to wonder if they'll be able to keep it up, though. The amount of great and impressive games will certainly increase for the 360 and PS3, eventually. And as much fun as it might be to wave your arms and hit a tennis ball with a bubble-head doll, it could get old at some point - I remember how fun it was to shoot ducks with the plastic gun from the first Nintendo console, but I got bored after a while.

Regardless, Nintendo is making a huge profit right now, and the Wii will more than likely keep selling pretty good throughout the year.

As for the 360 and PS3 - the 360 has sold in a year almost half the amount than the original Xbox sold in 3-4 years, so that's obviously good. The numbers for the PS3 might not be impressive, but they are actually not that bad if you consider the big price tag and lack of games. Not to mention that they have yet to launch in regions such as Europe and Australia.

LT21Titans27
02-01-2007, 09:11 PM
[QUOTE=NYTitansFan]some guy made a motion senser controller for the 360 similar to the ps3 motion sensered controller i wonder if Microsoft will add it to there controls now:ha:
[QUOTE]


i was never into the motion controls like that, its not like i move the pad when i play, i hold it

but the Wii is a different story, its interactive gaming

Ryudo
02-01-2007, 09:20 PM
Console Wars - The Wii Strikes Back.

It will be interesting the selling rates of Ps3 and 360 when they're prices drop.
Since PS3 and 360 do NOT make profit as they lose money per system they sell don't expect a price drop anytime soon..in fact sony has been upfront they will not drop the price this year at all.

Gunny
02-01-2007, 09:41 PM
Of course they won't.

But it will happen eventually

Toly
02-01-2007, 11:43 PM
Since PS3 and 360 do NOT make profit as they lose money per system they sell don't expect a price drop anytime soon..

Actually, Microsoft has been making a profit (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746482p1.html) with the 360 as of late - there were even rumors of a possible price drop for last fall, but Microsoft has stated (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/736/736496p1.html) that they don't plan a price drop anytime soon... and with good reason.

NYTitansFan
02-03-2007, 02:24 AM
Microsoft has stated[/URL] that they don't plan a price drop anytime soon... and with good reason.

yeah because buying one at the current price is a steal:))

Gunny
02-03-2007, 03:41 AM
hardly

NYTitansFan
02-03-2007, 04:56 AM
hardly

it really is considering what hardware is in it 3 processors at 3.2ghz each..well thats 400 big ones right there. don't get me wrong tho gunny i could say the same for the ps3(other than the 3 processors part..lol) allot of that hardware in the consoles are very expensive if you were to buy the hardware separately to build a extremely good gaming computer or something it would cost thousands of dollars.

Gunny
02-03-2007, 06:29 AM
Well look at it this way - Microsoft are making a profit from each console they sell thus really the 360 is marked up so you are paying more...:grrhee:

NYTitansFan
02-04-2007, 12:56 AM
not to further the arguement but microsoft is actually loseing money for each console they sell. look it up in google they get the money from the games

Gunny
02-04-2007, 01:23 AM
not to further the arguement but microsoft is actually loseing money for each console they sell. look it up in google they get the money from the games

http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746482p1.html

NYTitansFan
02-05-2007, 11:37 PM
yeah see sony is losing money too. the profit is from the games and i don't believe that Microsoft is gaining money from the system ive seen many other articles saying otherwise

Gunny
02-05-2007, 11:42 PM
It depends when you saw them. Costs of manufacturing may have dropped.

But it is moot anyway. Games always make the system.

NYTitansFan
02-05-2007, 11:44 PM
i dot get it if thats true because sony and Microsoft have basically the same specs. so how can sony be losing money than. oh yeah the flu-ray jk but still the xbox has 3 processors which makes up for the blu-ray so why is sony spending so much money on basically the same stuff. beyond my comprehension

Gunny
02-05-2007, 11:47 PM
i dot get it if thats true because sony and Microsoft have basically the same specs. so how can sony be losing money than. oh yeah the flu-ray jk but still the xbox has 3 processors which makes up for the blu-ray so why is sony spending so much money on basically the same stuff. beyond my comprehension

no idea, specs aren't my area.:suspect:

NYTitansFan
02-05-2007, 11:49 PM
have you decided on which to get yet?

Gunny
02-06-2007, 12:16 AM
nah.

PS3 is out here in March and that will be $1000.
I will probably wait a year and see what games are out and what is coming out.
Where Metal Gear will be at and all that stuff.

NYTitansFan
02-06-2007, 10:39 PM
nah.

PS3 is out here in March and that will be $1000.
I will probably wait a year and see what games are out and what is coming out.
Where Metal Gear will be at and all that stuff.

thats probably the best thing to do, but i hope you pick the right one;)

Gunny
02-06-2007, 11:07 PM
And it will be cheaper.

NYTitansFan
02-06-2007, 11:54 PM
And it will be cheaper.
right

Gunny
02-07-2007, 12:13 AM
though it will still be $120 to buy a game.

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 12:14 AM
console can have all the power it wants..without the games it aint worth **** and right now Wii and 360 for pretty much in 2007 have the games MUTIPLE big games...PS3 1 game and is IF it comes out on time in Q4 2007..MGS4.

360 ESP has the games through this year.

bigtitan53279
02-07-2007, 12:15 AM
console can have all the power it wants..without the games it aint worth **** and right now Wii and 360 for pretty much in 2007 have the games MUTIPLE big games...PS3 1 game and is IF it comes out on time in Q4 2007..MGS4.

360 ESP has the games through this year.
also depends on which games you prefer. i hate FPS's, so i wont be getting a 360, since that's about all they're good for.

NYTitansFan
02-07-2007, 12:24 AM
think about it gunny....man that would be fun playing gunny on xbox live :ha: dont worry i not trying to convert you over to the good side or anything

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 12:29 AM
also depends on which games you prefer. i hate FPS's, so i wont be getting a 360, since that's about all they're good for.
So you don't know that Guitar hero 360 is coming out od from the creator of Final Fantasy who LEFT square to make RPGs just for 360 like Blue Dragon and Lost Oddessey coming out this year ..plus Namco has a few RPGs planned...Squarenix will no longer be Sony only in fact they are doing more with Nintendo than anyone these days and they plan to keep it that way...but yes FF13 will still be PS3 but Japans fave series/RPG Dragon Quest is Wii and DS now...and both Japan and the US Wii is greatly outselling PS3...looking much like history repeating itself (DS blowing out PSP)

bigtitan53279
02-07-2007, 12:42 AM
So you don't know that Guitar hero 360

already have it for ps2, obviously without the added ten songs, but that's why i have a buddy with a 360!

most of the games i play are cross platform, but the ones im looking forward to the most are the ps3 exclusives(MGS4, god of war III, FF XIII, killzone II[one of the few FPS i like], and Tekken 6)

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 12:47 AM
actually 360 one will let you download songs.

Plus VF5 for 360 and Assians creed on 360 (yes on PS3 also but 360 is cheaper)

Gunny
02-07-2007, 02:30 AM
(yes on PS3 also but 360 is cheaper)

That's besides the point.

Heavenly Sword, Oblivion, F.E.A.R, Splinter Cell: DA, Rainbow Six, Saints Row, Lair, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, UT3, GTA4, Ratchet and Clank, Coded Arms, the untitled game from Naughty Dog (guys who make Jak and Daxter), Guitar Hero for PS3.

It's not like PS3 has nothing coming out.

Gunny
02-07-2007, 02:32 AM
Squarenix will no longer be Sony only

They never were and all they really ever released on PS2 was Final Fantasy 10 to 12.

Gunny
02-07-2007, 02:33 AM
think about it gunny....man that would be fun playing gunny on xbox live :ha: dont worry i not trying to convert you over to the good side or anything

I suck at those types of games online.

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 03:03 AM
They never were and all they really ever released on PS2 was Final Fantasy 10 to 12.
Maybe in aussie but in the states they pretty much stuck with PS2 and LOADS and LOADS of RPGs from Square ..same with Japan.

Japan and the US are the largest markets for gaming.

NYTitansFan
02-07-2007, 05:57 AM
That's besides the point.

Heavenly Sword, Oblivion, F.E.A.R, Splinter Cell: DA, Rainbow Six, Saints Row, Lair, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, UT3, GTA4, Ratchet and Clank, Coded Arms, the untitled game from Naughty Dog (guys who make Jak and Daxter), Guitar Hero for PS3.

It's not like PS3 has nothing coming out.

i heard somewhere that splinter cell DA is the last splinter cell to come out on multiple platforms. after that, new ones will only be on the 360.

GTA4 is also coming out for the 360 on launch too. so nothing special there

i also heard that the second saints row will come out on the 360. than on the ps3 awhile down the road like the gta series did

Rainbow Six is also on the 360...good game might i add(Vegas)

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, F.E.A.R. and Warhawk all are also on the 360

heres all 360 games
HERE (http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=1029&tag=subnav;all)

Gunny
02-07-2007, 07:44 AM
i heard somewhere that splinter cell DA is the last splinter cell to come out on multiple platforms. after that, new ones will only be on the 360.

GTA4 is also coming out for the 360 on launch too. so nothing special there

i also heard that the second saints row will come out on the 360. than on the ps3 awhile down the road like the gta series did

Rainbow Six is also on the 360...good game might i add(Vegas)

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, F.E.A.R. and Warhawk all are also on the 360

heres all 360 games
HERE (http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=1029&tag=subnav;all)

oh I know they are 360 games as well but they are established games that are good.

All we need is Gears of War. :yes:

lol.

NYTitansFan
02-07-2007, 08:38 AM
All we need is Gears of War. :yes:

lol.

lol for some reason im doubting that lol wishful thinking tho

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 02:22 PM
That's besides the point.

Heavenly Sword, Oblivion, F.E.A.R, Splinter Cell: DA, Rainbow Six, Saints Row, Lair, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, UT3, GTA4, Ratchet and Clank, Coded Arms, the untitled game from Naughty Dog (guys who make Jak and Daxter), Guitar Hero for PS3.

It's not like PS3 has nothing coming out.

Guitar hero is NOT coming out for PS3 at least NOTHING announced and most those games are on 360 and the price is MAJOR factor...it's the biggest reason why most are not buying it when they can get the games on 360 for 200$ less....I know what games have street dates since I get to talk with our Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft reps...and have list on our computer at work...add to that any time people hear the price on PS3 then 360 then see what games ...they opt for 360..PS3's lay around unsold for LONG periods of time.

And in one of the two biggest gaming markets that is BAD.

Gunny
02-07-2007, 03:11 PM
Guitar Hero will come out for PS3. It is all but confirmed.

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 03:56 PM
Guitar Hero will come out for PS3. It is all but confirmed.
Link


because I have heard nothing about it and I need something solid not a bunch of rumour and word from one guy....if my SONY REP does not know then I think that is flat out lieing through wishful thinking.

HALL97ROX
02-07-2007, 04:16 PM
aren't all ps2 games compatible with ps3?

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 04:22 PM
aren't all ps2 games compatible with ps3?
97% of them and it's sounding like Guitar Hero II for PS2 with the controller situation may fall under that 3% :irked:

Gunny
02-07-2007, 06:00 PM
Link


because I have heard nothing about it and I need something solid not a bunch of rumour and word from one guy....if my SONY REP does not know then I think that is flat out lieing through wishful thinking.

It's common sense. It is a major seller for Sony and that is what they need.

It is like saying after God of War came out, that there wouldn't be a second one. You know another will come out.

Plus they are already advertising for help on the next guitar hero game.

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 06:08 PM
Just as I thought wishful thinking.

Gunny
02-07-2007, 07:02 PM
It's hardly wishful thinking.

Halo on PS3 is wishful thinking.

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 08:32 PM
with no news hints or even rumour it is wishful thinking and no matter what PS2 did developers ALWAYS go after what is CURRENTLY selling the most systems as in what is most popular and right now PS3 is losing badly ....if it was all about power PS2 would have lost and Gamecube and Xbox would have won..but PS2 was the most popular so most games were made for it..and right now Wii is the most popular overall and 360 is very popular in the US esp how PS3 is tough to program for while 360 is easier and so is Wii ... PS2 was not easy to devellop for but it's sales forced them into developing for it...if they have the option of going elseware they will in a heartbeat and right now they have that option to not develop for PS3 and some have openly stated they will skip the PS3 for a while.

been a gamer since the 80's and seen the wars over the years and can easily say PS3 is looking much like Saturn or N64 in terms of support.

Gunny
02-07-2007, 09:14 PM
If sales forced them into developing games for them why were most of PS2 most popular games not ported to the x-box or gamecube?

Gunny
02-07-2007, 09:16 PM
And there are hints and rumours.

As I said, the developers have positions available for the next Guitar Hero game.

http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/755/755984p1.html

Ryudo
02-07-2007, 11:37 PM
If sales forced them into developing games for them why were most of PS2 most popular games not ported to the x-box or gamecube?
Because it would not have sold as well. :slap: and many ports for Xbox and GCN were ports of the PS2 version...why Madden always looked like crap when on Xbox or Gamecube....Gamecube was more powerful than PS2 easily ....PS2 had a 294 MHz CPU while GCN had a 485MHz CPU and Xbox 733 MHz..yet GCN sold 21 million systems and Xbox 24 million world wide...PS2 100 mill (granted much of that is the older brick systems sucked and broke down and people replaced them often) but there is still great demand for PS2 because of the games it has.

See the biz works as simple as this if system sells alot that is where the majority of the audience is so make money there if system does not sell as well..that is where less people buy the product...that is why PS2 had the most games...yes every once in a while a developer wants a system with power and tries to make a game on that console and sometimes it's great and sells well but that is a minority as there is a few exceptions to every rule.

PSp for example is much more powerful than DS but is has sold 19 mill systems world wide and DS has sold 35 mill ..in 2006 alone DS sold 27 million games and PSP sold 2 million games....many developers have dropped off PSP in favour of DS...many PS3 games have been cancled or moved to 360 or moved multiplatform because PS3 is just not selling/tough to develop for.

Gunny
02-08-2007, 12:32 AM
many PS3 games have been cancled or moved to 360 or moved multiplatform because PS3 is just not selling/tough to develop for.

such as?

NYTitansFan
02-08-2007, 01:43 AM
such as?

gta is now multi platform. mgs might be too
2 of playstations best games might i add

Gunny
02-08-2007, 04:06 AM
That has nothing to do with the PS3 being hard to develop for, nor being canceled.

and GTA is massively over-rated.

Toly
02-08-2007, 09:05 AM
i dot get it if thats true because sony and Microsoft have basically the same specs. so how can sony be losing money than. oh yeah the flu-ray jk but still the xbox has 3 processors which makes up for the blu-ray so why is sony spending so much money on basically the same stuff. beyond my comprehension

Having basically the same specs doesn't mean they are equal. The cell processor is very powerful by itself and it was created to run in many applications... the PS3 is just one of them. The 360's processor is actually cheaper to manufacture (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1497&Itemid=2) than the cell processor and blue ray.

iSuppli has a nice comparison table (http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919) between estimated costs of the PS3 and 360.

NYTitansFan
02-08-2007, 10:00 AM
Having basically the same specs doesn't mean they are equal. The cell processor is very powerful by itself and it was created to run in many applications... the PS3 is just one of them. The 360's processor is actually cheaper to manufacture (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1497&Itemid=2) than the cell processor and blue ray.

iSuppli has a nice comparison table (http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919) between estimated costs of the PS3 and 360.

half the price just as good :rolleyes:

Toly
02-08-2007, 12:55 PM
Because it would not have sold as well.

That logic would make sense for average and below average games, but definitely not for big games such as GTA, which was indeed ported to the Xbox -- the revenue might not be as big as on the PS2, but it will be worth it regardless.

As for Madden, the graphics on Xbox and Gamcube have always been equal or slightly better than the PS2.

many PS3 games have been cancled or moved to 360 or moved multiplatform because PS3 is just not selling/tough to develop for.

What games have been cancelled? I know that Konami cancelled some PS3 games (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/754/754307p1.html), though, some Wii games were cancelled as well. Another one is WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2007, but that was because of time constrains and they stated that the next version will be available on the PS3 (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/720/720579p1.html).

There are actually several games that are being ported to the PS3 such as Saints Row, Oblivion and Double Agent.

bigtitan53279
02-08-2007, 03:18 PM
actually 360 one will let you download songs.

yes, but you have to pay for each individual song. **** that ****.

and my buddy is a GH fiend, so he will most definitely download them.

Ryudo
02-09-2007, 12:33 AM
haha looks like it may be coming to Wii

http://wii.ign.com/articles/762/762725p1.html

bigtitan53279
02-09-2007, 12:36 AM
no surprise, it fits in with the Wii. it's a great game, i dont see why every system wouldnt want to sell it. it's easily one of the highest sellers for the ps2.

Gunny
02-09-2007, 12:52 AM
Still not hearing anything on it NOT coming to the PS3.

Because it will.

bigtitan53279
02-09-2007, 01:13 AM
Still not hearing anything on it NOT coming to the PS3.

Because it will.
yeah, i think that's just pretty much assumed. i dont see any reason why it wouldnt.

bigtitan53279
02-09-2007, 02:42 AM
seems like it will be available for all the next gen systems.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/733/733723p1.html

"guiatr hero's ps3 appearance is only a matter of time."

Toly
02-10-2007, 10:46 AM
Squarenix will no longer be Sony only in fact they are doing more with Nintendo than anyone these days and they plan to keep it that way...

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/763/763512p1.html

TitanKid4Life
02-12-2007, 09:52 PM
xbox 360 = da best

Gunny
02-26-2007, 11:31 PM
I am very interested in the Star Wars: Force Unleashed game.

The Gloat
02-27-2007, 12:03 AM
That Guitar Hero game is such cheese lol. That and Dance Dance Revolution. No way I could tell people I owned those if I truly did. And I don't. I swear. Seriously.

bigtitan53279
02-27-2007, 12:05 AM
That Guitar Hero game is such cheese lol. That and Dance Dance Revolution. No way I could tell people I owned those if I truly did. And I don't. I swear. Seriously.
dancd dance is soooo yesterday, guitar hero is where it's now.

i am a proud owner of both guitar heroes, and i kick *** at them.

Gunny
02-27-2007, 12:25 AM
never played either of them.

have no interest.

The Gloat
02-27-2007, 05:48 PM
It's like faking playing guitar, but going through the motions. So why not just play a real guitar? I can't wait til Madden introduces the same technology so all my superstars run my 4.3 speed. Or not.

bigtitan53279
02-27-2007, 05:56 PM
So why not just play a real guitar?

because real guitar take months to get good at, while you can just plug in guitar hero and jam. i dont care either way, i play both :nana3:

The Gloat
02-27-2007, 10:30 PM
Word. My friends swear it's fun. I think I'll try American Idol the game first. haha

Vigsted
02-28-2007, 06:29 PM
I am very interested in the Star Wars: Force Unleashed game.

You better be patient, afaik they're still very early in the design phase.

Gunny
02-28-2007, 06:31 PM
afaik?

well i got time regardless.

PhiSlammaJamma
02-28-2007, 07:23 PM
xbox 360 won. It's over.

Gunny
02-28-2007, 07:34 PM
xbox 360 won. It's over.

hasn't even begun.

Yossarian
03-01-2007, 03:59 AM
wii won.. mugged ps3 and xbox 360 in a dark alley

HALL97ROX
03-01-2007, 03:53 PM
wii is a gimmick system with bad graphics, although it is a cheap one

Yossarian
03-01-2007, 05:00 PM
Gimmick system.. maybe

more fun than the 360/PS3 IMHO ... yes

bigtitan53279
03-01-2007, 07:23 PM
more fun than the 360/PS3 IMHO ... yes
for now, until the novelty wears off.

Gunny
03-01-2007, 07:42 PM
or people get sick of broken TVs and injuries.

Yossarian
03-01-2007, 07:44 PM
Who gets tired of Wii induced injuries?

Gunny
03-01-2007, 07:46 PM
The chick who died wouldn't be to thrilled with the wii

Yossarian
03-01-2007, 07:53 PM
The chick who died wouldn't be to thrilled with the wii


the one who died trying to get a Wii for her kids from that Radio station?...

Gunny
03-01-2007, 07:55 PM
yeah the holding a wee for wii competition.

Yossarian
03-01-2007, 07:59 PM
The chick who died wouldn't be to thrilled with the wii

that's the reason she died though.. she was so thrilled to get a Wii that she pushed herself past her body's tolerance...

poor family

Gunny
03-01-2007, 08:05 PM
yes but not thrilled anymore.

Yossarian
03-01-2007, 08:06 PM
ha.. wow.. not going to touch that

BigRed3
03-01-2007, 11:53 PM
The Wii does induce some crazy injuries. I've only played it once, at an EB Games. And I was playing that crappy Zelda fishing game, and I got so into it that I had a sore shoulder immediately afterwards. Needless to say, the people in the store were looking at me funny. Pretty sure I broke a sweat trying to reel in a damn catfish that I had to throw back.

oochymp
03-02-2007, 12:10 AM
the one who died trying to get a Wii for her kids from that Radio station?...
I heard it was the person who finished second, therefor, no Wii, I could be wrong tho

Yossarian
03-02-2007, 12:31 AM
no your right.. she was going to finish 2nd anyways.. which makes it all the more tragic i suppose

BigRed3
03-03-2007, 11:33 AM
I am officially on the DL because of a Wii injury. FYI.... don't try to imitate Fred Flinstone when Wii Bowling.

Gunny
03-03-2007, 06:16 PM
:ha:

The Gloat
03-06-2007, 03:20 PM
Gimmick system.. maybe

more fun than the 360/PS3 IMHO ... yes
ps3 has that same gimmicky attachment but better graphics and games, so you'd probably like it more.
http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a818/a818_bm.gif
tee hee hee

Ryudo
03-07-2007, 02:54 AM
ps3 has that same gimmicky attachment but better graphics and games, so you'd probably like it more.

tee hee hee
You mean pelicans 8 year old technology that was in PSone that sixaxis uses?

And Nintendo's newer technology that uses ALL motion from Gyration corp they Ninty bought up.

hehehe I like where i work I can get free systems thanks to the program ticket my reps gave me. :greedy:

Yossarian
03-07-2007, 03:30 AM
new things turn me on too Mr. Ryudo..

mdfan
03-24-2007, 09:43 PM
Funny stuff on wii vs ps3
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