http://www.vgoa.com/index.php?page=newsProfile&platform=Main&newsID=230

Interesting. Guess we will find out tomorrow.


Later

I'm guessing two things...

1) Some sort of online breaththrough...

2) Some sort of new franchise Sony is unveiling, with some in-game footage and concept stuff to be seen.

Vaporware.... sounds like it anyway

Trying to hype something that's probably more nothing for the ps3. They should give up already. It's a sad story, but it only gets worse.

Trying to hype something that's probably more nothing for the ps3. They should give up already. It's a sad story, but it only gets worse.

ahh more baseless ramblings of someone who knows nothing.

:rolleyes:

Trying to hype something that's probably more nothing for the ps3. They should give up already. It's a sad story, but it only gets worse.


Do you own a PS3 or XBox360?

might add that it isn't Sony who is hyping this new fangled contraption.

i just got my ps3 the other day and I love the heck out of it........

however, I have yet to use it for gaming

I love the media server / www. / BluRay / 1080p upconvert stuff
ironicaly, the WIRELESS lan is faster than my Mac

so far I'm digging it .... now, if only there were some games

i just got my ps3 the other day and I love the heck out of it........

however, I have yet to use it for gaming

I love the media server / www. / BluRay / 1080p upconvert stuff
ironicaly, the WIRELESS lan is faster than my Mac

so far I'm digging it .... now, if only there were some games

How good is your TV you got it hooked up to? Blu Ray looks amazing on a high def TV.

What's your online ID?

I'd also be interested in your opinion on Gears of War vs Resistance: FOM

There are good games, not sure how many are not cross platform though.

E3 will give a good taste of what's to come.

Got me curious....

There are good games? Which? Resistance? That's about all so far, and it's not a big deal.
Anyway, I have a 360. I had a PS2, and planned all along to get a ps3 until they ended up flopping. Once they were so far in a hole, I went ahead and bit the bullet and went Microsoft (that name alone is enough to make me puke), but every day it seems more and more like the only choice.

I said I'd still buy the ps3 if it panned out, but I'm not saying it anymore. It's dead. There's no hope.

PS3 has already outsold the 360 in Japan and is on track to be on par or even surpass the 360 in total consoles sold in a 2 year span.

And this is for a system so much more expensive.

So what flopping are you on about?

Gunny. It's dead. You know this. Everyone else knows this. Yes, we expect Wii and PS3 to outsell in Japan. No shock. But it lost the battle. End of story. The ONLY thing it had going for it was it's exclusives. The exclusives could have saved the console, BUT nope. They lost their exclusives. So, now there's a ridiculously priced Blu-Ray player. Hmmm. All the while, HD DVD looks exactly the same as Blu-Ray, so it's doubtful that Blu-Ray will last very long anyway.

Must be why it is actually outselling the 360 now.

Not bad for a 'dead' machine.

Face it, you know nothing and you have nothing to back it up.

It's all but confirmed that the ps3 failed. The only reason the developers havent given up on it completely is because they can't afford to.
A japanese product outselling some foreign product in japan is poor logic for an argument Gunny. But, I expect nothing else.
I bet the PSP is selling like hotcakes over there too, huh? Doesn't mean it isn't getting badly abused by it's competitor.

It's all but confirmed that the ps3 failed. The only reason the developers havent given up on it completely is because they can't afford to.
A japanese product outselling some foreign product in japan is poor logic for an argument Gunny. But, I expect nothing else.
I bet the PSP is selling like hotcakes over there too, huh? Doesn't mean it isn't getting badly abused by it's competitor.
can you do anything except say the same thing in three posts in a row with out backing it up? well, i guess you could go for four in a row....

It's all but confirmed that the ps3 failed. The only reason the developers havent given up on it completely is because they can't afford to.

Of course they can afford to, if it was failing you dont spend the money to make games for it.

Why would they spend money on a game for a failing system when it wouldn't sell?



A japanese product outselling some foreign product in japan is poor logic for an argument Gunny.

Japan is a video game juggernaut and regardless it still proves the PS3 is selling.

But, I expect nothing else.

Though not as bad as a fool claiming a system is a failure after 7 months of existence and is actually selling more and more each month. :rolleyes:

I'm still waiting for you to back up your claims. Of course this might be another case of The Gloat talking out of his rear end again.

I bet the PSP is selling like hotcakes over there too, huh?

It doesn't actually. But I wouldn't expect you to know that, you know nothing.

Doesn't mean it isn't getting badly abused by it's competitor.

Which the PS3 isn't, as I said PS3 is on track to equal or sell more consoles then the 360 within the same time span. (about 19 months now)

can you do anything except say the same thing in three posts in a row with out backing it up? well, i guess you could go for four in a row....

Fan boys know nothing, leave him alone.

So this totally amazing thing was just an(other) MMO?? Guess it doesn't take much to excite PS3 owners....

Basically. But Gunny serves as a good example. Everyone but the few PS3 owners know it was DOA. Everyone knows they sunk far too much money in it and are LOSING MONEY with every unit sold, while selling remains a problem.

I guess I'm just saying the same things over and over, but when you're dealing with the delusional, what else can you do?

This is pointless as long as the blindfolds stay on, but what the hey:
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Time_Magazine_Online_Says_PS3_Failed
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128265-page,4-c,industrynews/article.html
http://www0.epinions.com/content_4921270404

The only thing keeping Sony alive is how much the 360 blows up on people.

I just don't understand how a system has failed when it hasn't been released for a year, and in those opinion columns, are of them were released before the end of 2006. I'm curious as to how you call a flop a flop so quickly.

Oh well, I'm enjoying my system, that's all I care about. I'll let the fanboys blow farts in each other faces like little kids.

Basically. But Gunny serves as a good example. Everyone but the few PS3 owners know it was DOA. Everyone knows they sunk far too much money in it and are LOSING MONEY with every unit sold, while selling remains a problem.

so is the 360 genius. :rolleyes:

so did the x-box and ps2 :rolleyes:

and more of this 'everyone' crap.

your ignorance is astounding, and now you find opinion pieces to back up instead of cold hard facts.

keep digging fool.

oh and if you want an opinion piece read this

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12890

In this exclusive report, we talk to Screen Digest's Ed Barton, whose latest research has found that publishers will see an "increasingly difficult environment" for making returns on next-gen investments, and claimed that PlayStation 3 will hold the largest market share by 2010, with the Wii a distant third.

:rolleyes:

So, now there's a ridiculously priced Blu-Ray player. Hmmm. All the while, HD DVD looks exactly the same as Blu-Ray, so it's doubtful that Blu-Ray will last very long anyway.

Hasn't Blu-ray all but put HD DVD out of business.. I know they've been outselling them something like 5 to 1 as of late.

Hasn't Blu-ray all but put HD DVD out of business.. I know they've been outselling them something like 5 to 1 as of late.
that's what i thought too...

linkage http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/01/1758222

The first two weeks' worth of data seem to back up what many predicted — that the Blu-ray-enabled PS3 is helping Sony quickly close the gap with HD DVD, with almost three Blu-ray discs sold for every one HD DVD during the first week of January.

Alright Zoidberg! "Who's the big man now, Vinnie?"

kind of frustrating that i couldnt find any up to date numbers. seems like the only thing i can find are sales from january and february.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/dvdpvr/0,39030701,49287479,00.htm

It's probably fair to assume that the PlayStation 3 has a lot to do with this sudden surge. According to sales figures, the PS3 sold 1 million units in its first six weeks on sale. We can only imagine that the lucky Americans who were presented with one on Christmas Day all immediately rushed out and bought something to play on their shiny new Blu-ray drive.

finnaly found something from april

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/9316.cfm

Also in the report, Blu-ray outsold HD-DVD an impressive 9:2 while dominating the top sellers list. The only HD-DVD movie to even make an appearence on the list was "The Departed".

more linkage

https://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=474416

Yeah, it's only due to the current hype of Blu-Ray. Which will more than likely die seeing as people aren't ready to switch to either HD-DVD nor Blu-Ray.

So I guess. Uh. People buy the PS3 for the Blu-Ray player, because it damned sure isn't for gaming. haha It's pretty simple, who in their right mind is going to pay an extra 300 dollars for no decent games, and the only good games are multi-platform? It just doesn't make any sense.
PS3 lost their only advantage when MSG4, FF, etc decided to ditch them and roll with a money-maker.

of course! it's all so obvious now that you have provided links and sources!

:rolleyes:

Well Gloat does have one point, the PS3 is not selling at the rate it was predicted to and Sony is losing money on it (budgetwise). Now the same can probably be said for the 360.

In a situation where you have 2 non-compatible systems with exclusive content selling at prices that for most people prohibits purchasing both, I don't foresee it changing either.

PS3 lost their only advantage when MSG4, FF, etc decided to ditch them and roll with a money-maker.

Wrong as usual.

right now MG4 and FF13 are PS3 only.

But please continue to dazzle us with stuff you clearly know nothing about.

You have only changed your mind 3 times already.

http://www.vgoa.com/index.php?page=newsProfile&platform=Main&newsID=230

Interesting. Guess we will find out tomorrow.


Later

So what was it?

MGS is multiplatform. FF is multiplatform. DMC is multiplatform.
How big is the rock you live under?

So what was it?

As I posted earlier in this thread, it was an MMO.

Dunno how he missed it. It was freaking GROUNDBREAKING! Alright, I'm going to leave you guys alone. Sucks you're already out of 700 bucks.

I just don't understand how a system has failed when it hasn't been released for a year, and in those opinion columns, are of them were released before the end of 2006. I'm curious as to how you call a flop a flop so quickly.

The PS3 obviously hasn't failed. It's way too early to be even talking about something like that, but unfortunately, you can say that the same hype created for the console is now being used against it. Honestly, the PS3 hasn't sold that bad as some people want you to believe, especially if you consider its big price tag, the already established 360 and the success of the Wii so far.

Also, I think fanaticism is being taken to the extreme in this generation (see The Gloat posts in this thread) and thus both consoles (PS3 & 360) suffer from a lot of misleading or overblown propaganda generated by these fans taking one side. Because the consoles are quite expensive this time around (more than they used to be anyways), many people need to believe that they are spending $400/$600 on the best console available. So, by constantly bashing and nitpicking the other console, it reassures them that they did in fact buy the best console.

As I posted earlier in this thread, it was an MMO.

link?

MGS is multiplatform. FF is multiplatform. DMC is multiplatform.

no no and yes.

Also, I think fanaticism is being taken to the extreme in this generation (see The Gloat posts in this thread) and thus both consoles (PS3 & 360) suffer from a lot of misleading or overblown propaganda generated by these fans taking one side. Because the consoles are quite expensive this time around (more than they used to be anyways), many people need to believe that they are spending $400/$600 on the best console available. So, by constantly bashing and nitpicking the other console, it reassures them that they did in fact buy the best console.

That's a good point actually.

Fanaticism? Maybe you missed it: I hate Microsoft. I was hoping Sony would be the better of the 2.

It isn't. It isn't even close. And Gunny, crawl out from under the rock. MSG and FF will both be multiplatform. If you're not up to date on things like this, please don't stick up for the PS3.

link?

http://www.vgoa.com/index.php?page=newsProfile&platform=Main&newsID=263

http://www.vgoa.com/index.php?page=newsProfile&platform=Main&newsID=264

http://www.vgoa.com/index.php?page=newsProfile&platform=Main&newsID=263

http://www.vgoa.com/index.php?page=newsProfile&platform=Main&newsID=264

IGN had the up a few days ago.

Fanaticism? Maybe you missed it: I hate Microsoft. I was hoping Sony would be the better of the 2.

It isn't. It isn't even close. And Gunny, crawl out from under the rock. MSG and FF will both be multiplatform. If you're not up to date on things like this, please don't stick up for the PS3.

Proof? Oh wait you have none because as of now they are not multi platform. I don't bother predicting the future.

Maybe pull your head out and get some facts to back up your baseless points.

Oh wait, you can't do that either. You know nothing.

You also forgot God of War. Another exclusive.

PS3 is amazing on a H-Def TV with Blue Disc thing, ive played Madden and NBA 07 on that, simply amazing.

Blu Ray you mean?

yea thats the word, friggin realistic

I really like my PS3 as a media device.

I enjoy Blu Ray movies especially. The PS3 is still the best and cheapest Blu Ray player available, but it also plays games too. Everyone thought that Sony used Blu Ray as a trojan horse, but for me, the fact that is also plays games is its trojan horse.

But it is in no way competing with my 360 as a gaming console right now.

I watch Blu Ray on the PS3 and HD DVD on the 360, but I also game on my 360 much much more than the PS3 for obvious reasons.

The PS3 will eventually get it together but I doubt it will catch up to the 360 anytime soon (if at all) because of its lack of games and price tag.

There will be some quality titles eventually coming out for the PS3.

My beef with Sony was them touting their system as Next Gen and that the 360 was not. Many people waited on getting a 360 (or never purchased one at all) because of Sony's hype. This has now been proven to not be true.

Sony is great for hype and lying to the very people that support them. But that is just business.

Whenever I use my PS3, I am impressed with it technically being the geek that I am. I just hope that they are able to develop games as good as they were promising.

I really think that by the time the PS3 is really starting to hit its stride that MS is going to drop the *Next Xbox* on us putting even more pressure on Sony to catch back up.

I will end my rant by stealing a quote I read on another board.

"I play games, not consoles"

Later

I really think that by the time the PS3 is really starting to hit its stride that MS is going to drop the *Next Xbox* on us putting even more pressure on Sony to catch back up.

It's not cost effective to do so.

You need a good decade (the years seem to steadily rise from each gen) out of your system before dropping the next one.

It's not cost effective to do so.

You need a good decade (the years seem to steadily rise from each gen) out of your system before dropping the next one.

I hear ya, but the Xbox had a short run as it launched in 2001 if I remember correctly. The 360 launched Nov '05, so I am expecting the 360 to do something similar. 2010 would be my bet.

Plus there are always going to be those that adopt new tech early.

I am pretty sure Sony has said that they want/expect the PS3 to go 10 years.

Later

How good is your TV you got it hooked up to? Blu Ray looks amazing on a high def TV.

What's your online ID?

I'd also be interested in your opinion on Gears of War vs Resistance: FOM

There are good games, not sure how many are not cross platform though.

E3 will give a good taste of what's to come.

My TV ? c'mon ... you now I'm pimpin' ...... and the ps3 triggered a chain of events that led to the return of my Toshiba 62" DLP 1080p HDTV (rhyming). once I got the ps3 (freeish btw (total cost less than $100 @ ps3 4 free - another internet promotion) and hooked it via HDMI to the Toshiba, I noticed that it did NOT actually accept 1080p input but only de-interlaced 1080i via "wobbulation" to creat a 1080p (1920x1080) resolution. CRAP! that's misleading and is bordering on false advertising - Thank god I bought it at Costco (until recently had NO TIME LIMIT on returns - they do now @ 90 days)

anyway, I took the Toshiba back and got the TV I wanted to begin with but balked at the cost. I have the Sony SXRD (LcOs) 60A2020 and the Ps3 is connected via HDMI and `1080p is enabled. DVD playback is upconverted to 1080p and the SXRD displays it beautifully. I have never been more impressed at a combo of equipment

I have yet to sign up for the Playstation Online

I have Gears of War and have a total of 10 minutes invested in the game. at the time I was playing FFXII, then began Zelda: Twilight and then God of War II . Then I set video games aside as I got busy at work with several award shows, a few TV shows and quite a bit of Exhibit work.
so in other words, I cannot compare the 2
my best guess is that Gears has a slight edge

I am playing again.... I had let a nephew borrow one of my games and I had an itching to play when he brought it back to me. I am currently playing KotoR on 360. DAMN I LOVE THIS GAME !. if there is one game that deserves a remake (without all the crazy load times and erratic bugs) KotoR would have to be HIGH on my list

I'd like to try MotorStorm and Resistance, but will be anticipating that Killer App. I'm not sure it exists on ps3 yet


my best comparison for both platforms would probably be with Oblivion. I may rent it on ps3 and cross examine. however, that could be unfair because Bethesda had some time to retune a few things


For the time being, the ps3 will likely remain an Entertainment Center piece and will serve as my first choice for DVD playback. I popped in a few discs to test and they felt new again. For instance, The Fifth Element looked incredible, and I can hardly imagine the image being much cleaner with the BluRay version.

another incredible thing is the Web Browser. my test was here and to the Funny Internet thread. several vids and youtube clips looked better on a 60" screen than it did on my 17" iMac ... that got HIGH marks for me

I just got it and haven't really had the time to rent a game. and I'm also currently hooked on KOTOR (Taris / Dantooine / Tattoine / Kashyyk / Leviathan complete) so maybe after I kick Malak's butt (again) I'll get Resistance and give you an UNBIASED opinion

http://nexgenwars.com/

I think Sony tried to bank on previous PS2 customers. If they would've launched at the same time for the same price, I would've gotten a ps3. I have a dvd player though, so blu-ray didn't matter when buying a game console. I don't see the difference between high-def and reg much nor dvd/blu ray. It's all mind tricks I tell ya!
I think Wii will definitely die out in a year or 2. No online games, no high def, not much of anything worth playing and weak graphics that aren't next gen. I'm not sure how it's selling at the moment really. That gimmicky controller must have really worked.
Power Glove pt 2!

My TV ? c'mon ... you now I'm pimpin' ...... and the ps3 triggered a chain of events that led to the return of my Toshiba 62" DLP 1080p HDTV (rhyming). once I got the ps3 (freeish btw (total cost less than $100 @ ps3 4 free - another internet promotion) and hooked it via HDMI to the Toshiba, I noticed that it did NOT actually accept 1080p input but only de-interlaced 1080i via "wobbulation" to creat a 1080p (1920x1080) resolution. CRAP! that's misleading and is bordering on false advertising - Thank god I bought it at Costco (until recently had NO TIME LIMIT on returns - they do now @ 90 days)

I know it was a stupid question.

Although have you ever paid full price for a console? You always get em on these promotions. It's crazy.


I'd like to try MotorStorm and Resistance, but will be anticipating that Killer App. I'm not sure it exists on ps3 yet

It doesn't yet.


my best comparison for both platforms would probably be with Oblivion. I may rent it on ps3 and cross examine. however, that could be unfair because Bethesda had some time to retune a few things

That will be interesting.

I think Sony tried to bank on previous PS2 customers. If they would've launched at the same time for the same price, I would've gotten a ps3. I have a dvd player though, so blu-ray didn't matter when buying a game console. I don't see the difference between high-def and reg much nor dvd/blu ray. It's all mind tricks I tell ya!

One theory I have considered is that the first console released is the winner due to many casual gamers just getting what is there.

PSX beat N64

PS2 beat x-box, gamecube

360 so far beating Wii and PS3.

I believe all were the first 'new' gen consoles released.

I have a dvd player though, so blu-ray didn't matter when buying a game console. I don't see the difference between high-def and reg much nor dvd/blu ray. It's all mind tricks I tell ya!


Mind tricks for blind people maybe ......

put a BLu-Ray paired with a legit 1080p display beside a Wal-Mart LCD and a low-end DVD player and tell me there's no difference
If you can't see it, you may need to see a doctor

as a matter of fact, I can see a noticeable difference in 1080i and 1080p
it's more prominent on larger screens (55"+)

Although have you ever paid full price for a console? You always get em on these promotions. It's crazy.


yes,.... I paid for the Wii. I walked into Wal-Mart one day and there it was. They are still scarce. Just the other day, Target was passing out vouchers.
Hard to believe considering the manufacture process. Building a Wii is pretty quick

The first two weeks' worth of data seem to back up what many predicted — that the Blu-ray-enabled PS3 is helping Sony quickly close the gap with HD DVD, with almost three Blu-ray discs sold for every one HD DVD during the first week of January.

man, I hope BR doesn't manifest into Sony's next Beta
I'm not sure how an HD-DVD drive operates in terms of grace, but this thing the other night was like flipping pages in a book

I threw in a basic copy of The Fifth Elemt
no Special Edition. No Superbit. $6 - Big Lots (chuckle)
anyway, nothing special
and it looked absolutely fantastic.
all the the things you might normally miss - you can't anymore
and the disc read like a book. there was mimal delay in the time you were in PLAY to Stopping it to the Menu
OK - Scene Select ..... no problem ... maybe a blink of a delay
EXIT back into the Ps3 submenus , then back to the DVD ..... vrooom

I sure hope it keeps performing like it is
and doesn't become a big black shiny brick like some early ps2's
the ps3 is such a good DVD Player as a whole, I'm almost hesitant to starting 10 hour sessions. It's going to take a blockbuster title and a ps3 Excl. I guess any Cross-Platform titles, I'lluse the 360 (especially for racers and shooters. ........I might go 3 for football titles ... and it'd also be my choice for button smashers

basically, whichever one comes out with Knights of the Old Republic III first will win themselves a big ol hug from PuckDaddy

I'm not saying there's NO difference. I'm saying the difference isn't great and definitely not worth the money that the difference costs.