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Gunny
06-26-2007, 08:34 AM
f'ing amazing!

visual eye candy for sure.

VolnTitan
06-26-2007, 12:21 PM
Gunny...

It was the first Blu-Ray I played on the PS3. Amazing. Also, check out Planet Earth on Blu-Ray. Almost brought tears to my eyes.

The Gloat
06-26-2007, 01:44 PM
Saw it on dvd. It was ok.

VolnTitan
06-26-2007, 01:48 PM
Did you see it on High Def. DVD like Blu-Ray. It looks and sounds amazing. If you don't like the movie, that's fine. This was more about the video quality.

The Gloat
06-26-2007, 01:50 PM
I still can't tell much difference at all between dvd on a high def tv than blu-ray or hd dvd.

VolnTitan
06-26-2007, 02:06 PM
Then you either have the wrong TV or wrong eyes. ;)

There is a huge difference.

The Gloat
06-26-2007, 02:31 PM
Nah. Not really. I think it's more in your mind than the screen. The difference isn't as strong visually as the switch from vhs to dvd was, and that until you actually looked back on it wasn't THAT huge either. Once it's been around for awhile then the differnce will be more noticable.
Or, basically, the difference isn't a 1 thousand dollar difference. Not even close.

VolnTitan
06-26-2007, 02:56 PM
I work in the industry and I promise you the difference is huge. Plus you have to be HD sooner or later anyway.

The Gloat
06-26-2007, 03:11 PM
It'll be years before either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray catch on. Many years. They're the mini-disc of technology. It's just not worth it at this point.

BigRed3
06-26-2007, 03:12 PM
I work in the industry and I promise you the difference is huge. Plus you have to be HD sooner or later anyway.

When does that go into effect? Isn't it like 2009?

VolnTitan
06-26-2007, 03:20 PM
I think it is sooner than that, but that could be the case. They still haven't set a standard, but I am almost certain it will be 1080i.

Gunny
06-26-2007, 05:39 PM
Gunny...

It was the first Blu-Ray I played on the PS3. Amazing. Also, check out Planet Earth on Blu-Ray. Almost brought tears to my eyes.

I been trying to get Planet Earth for Blu Ray, but I know it's high cost right now so I am trying to find a good deal on it. (most sell it on ebay for over $100).

Puck
06-26-2007, 07:45 PM
I think it is sooner than that, but that could be the case. They still haven't set a standard, but I am almost certain it will be 1080i.

well I can tell you one thing : it won't be 1080p
too much bandwidth
and should serve as a tool when measuring the resolutions

Gloat is trying to say that 480p looks no worse than 720p or 1080i
but i'd bet 8/10 people see dramatic difference and the other 2 are blind

as a matter of fact, I contend a 20-30% improvement with 1080p over 1080i

but like you say, equipment really determines results

Puck
06-26-2007, 07:48 PM
f'ing amazing!

visual eye candy for sure.

just out of curiosity

when you're watching a BluRay and you hit the (display,info,resolution,etc.), what does it display as your resolution ?

720p ?
1080i ?
1080p ?

and I'll extend this question to anyone with a ps3 / blu / hd-dvd

VolnTitan
06-26-2007, 08:07 PM
The reason that it will be 1080i is because it is based the world of 29.97 thus the cost for local stations to switch over won't be nearly as expensive.

I think your average person wouldn't be able to tell the difference btwn. 1080i and 1080p.

Gunny
06-27-2007, 05:10 AM
just out of curiosity

when you're watching a BluRay and you hit the (display,info,resolution,etc.), what does it display as your resolution ?

720p ?
1080i ?
1080p ?

and I'll extend this question to anyone with a ps3 / blu / hd-dvd

i will have to check and let you know.

VolnTitan
06-27-2007, 09:21 AM
I got Planet Earth from the WB store. After coupons, it came to around $53. Not sure if the deal is still going though

Puck
06-27-2007, 11:48 AM
I think your average person wouldn't be able to tell the difference btwn. 1080i and 1080p.

perhaps
but I think it really factors on the display and the source

it's possible to point out differences in 1080i on different displays from the same source.
one thing I've seen people comment on re: 1080i what's considered "screen door effect" and I could see it on the 1080i DLP
I cannot on a 1080p Lcos
which could simply be a matter of the technologies

and it all comes back to the size of the screen
50" or smaller displays should look similar
most techs will agree that 1080p is more effective on 60" or larger sets

VolnTitan
06-27-2007, 02:56 PM
The folks that like the "p" are the graphic people. They don't have to worry about 3:2 pulldown or the fact that it is field based. It is frame based. But I have seen 1080p on a Sony Wega LCD give that more effect as well. Depends how it was shot and such. Most your stuff that you watch is shot in or transfered in 1080i or 720p and then converted over to the required format by the broadcaster.

Puck
06-27-2007, 03:24 PM
you couldn't tell the difference between a 1080i broadcast of Planet Earth from it's BluRay pressing ?

VolnTitan
06-27-2007, 04:24 PM
Of course I could. You cannot compare broadcast and the Blu-Ray. 2 different things.

Laserjock
06-27-2007, 08:24 PM
I still can't tell much difference at all between dvd on a high def tv than blu-ray or hd dvd.

You clearly do not have your display calibrated appropriately if you cannot tell the difference in SD DVD and either HD DVD format. While I do not see the difference in 1080i vs 1080p material, the difference in SD DVD and HD DVD content is pretty amazing. Though I will admit that certain titles have been transferred much better than others.

nickmsmith
06-27-2007, 08:59 PM
Do you guys know how many times the deadline to switch to HD has been set??? At least two or three. I really don't know if this is another ploy, if the FCC will give in again.

All I know is that every TV retailer is making mega bucks off of it.

The Gloat
06-27-2007, 09:51 PM
Didnt say I couldn't tell a difference. I said I couldn't tell much difference. Nobody can, though many pretend there's a night and day difference. It's silly.

VolnTitan
06-27-2007, 11:11 PM
Gloat....

I don't pretend, I know there is a night and day difference. I see it every day at work. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Gunny
06-28-2007, 05:55 AM
Gloat....

I don't pretend, I know there is a night and day difference. I see it every day at work. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Gloat knows what everyone really thinks and means.

VolnTitan
06-28-2007, 10:26 AM
Ahh...master of time and space...why didn't you say so?

Puck
06-28-2007, 11:00 AM
http://media.gameworldnetwork.com/news_shots/1262218231465669b525e4b.jpg

while I don't think this is a very good example, it does show considerable smoothing when upscaling - notice the considerable lack of "jaggies"
not sure what settings their display is set to to, but I'd say the sharpness is crank down far to low

I am playing God Of War 2 on the ps3, and for comparison, I tossed it into a ps2 and there is a BIG difference

Puck
06-28-2007, 11:04 AM
http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html
mouse over the pics to see the differences

GoTitans3801
06-28-2007, 11:59 AM
That's pretty impressive, I think shot 10 was one of the ones where you can see the most difference.

The Gloat
06-28-2007, 02:15 PM
see, even the screenshots don't show much difference. Sure, there are a few more noticeable details, but if they aren't greatly noticeable in STILL frame shots, then they darn sure aren't that noticeable during regular play. lol @ some guy saying the difference is "night and day" hahaha good one. As I said, you can tell a difference, as you should be able to for the money you're blowing on it, but the difference isn't great.
I think people just try to sell it to themselves to make themselves think they really didn't waste their money once they see the subtle change.
And Puck, that screen you posted, wtf. That had to be the first color TV ever made with that horrible quality.

Puck
06-28-2007, 02:33 PM
what screen ?

Puck
06-28-2007, 02:41 PM
if you mean this screen
http://media.gameworldnetwork.com/news_shots/1262218231465669b525e4b.jpg
and you are referring to the 480p snap, then I'll have to disagree

the 480p clip looks actually quite good for a ps2 render
characteristics of that still are very much in line with what you find with a ps2 and a digital display in 480p. DVD in 480p should look similar as well - jaggies and mosaics,et al

VolnTitan
06-28-2007, 03:03 PM
Gloat....

Do you know the difference btwn. 59.94 based TC and 29.97? Or what about 24p? If you feel that way fine, but to act like folks who know what they are talking are just fooling themselves, then you are crazy. Some folks can see the difference. Personally, I see a huge difference, but then again I see it everyday. What I see at work is much better than can be seen at home on a consumer monitor from any source. Heck, I can't stand seeing a movie in the theater after the first week because all I see is the dirt. Not saying that makes me special, but part of what I do is "fix" dirt on videos, so I see it. The bottom line is you will have to make a purchase in the near future if you want to continue to watch TV.

Puck
06-28-2007, 03:34 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/media/2007/04/godofwar2_higherrez_lrg.jpg

VolnTitan
06-28-2007, 03:36 PM
I have heard alot of this game, will it ever come to PS3? Don't have many games, so always looking to fine "The One". I tried Oblivon. Too old for it. Lost my patience.

Gunny
06-28-2007, 05:40 PM
GoW3 will be PS3.

VolnTitan
06-28-2007, 06:51 PM
Cool. Is it a pretty easy game or more involved like those final fantasy ones?

Puck
06-28-2007, 06:59 PM
God of War is in the "button-masher" genre

it's fairly linear and a there's few simple puzzles to solve

it progresses nicley and has a nice storyline (especially if you are remotely interested in Greek Mythology)

whther or not someone finds it easy depends on the player. there are no complex events to orchestrate or countless hours of "fetch"quests, but there are lots of baddies to slaughter and some of them are quite difficult if you are using the wrong attacks

for instance, the first boss in the first game could be the End Boss in several others

Laserjock
06-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Screenshots do not appropriately represent the differences in resolution related to SD vs HD. Too dependent on the camera being used, possible jpeg compression artifacts and the resolution of the screen you view them on.

However, while I do not believe in the claims of audible differences attributed to esoteric speaker cables or audio connects, and I do not believe I can see differences between 1080i and 1080p, I can and do see significant differences between SD and HD DVD sources. Granted, some HD DVD transfers are not great, however some I have seen that I have the SD disc of [POTC 1 & 2 for example] are clearly superior and do not require pixel analysis to prove the difference.

Just my $.02

Hoffa
06-29-2007, 02:21 PM
What's the best for porn?
A friend of mine wants to know...

VolnTitan
06-29-2007, 04:06 PM
69p

Hoffa
06-29-2007, 05:52 PM
69p
That sounds good, except for the P.
Not into P.

Starkiller
07-06-2007, 11:34 PM
What's the best for porn?
A friend of mine wants to know...
I imagine standard definition is better than HD there... :ha:

GoTitans3801
07-09-2007, 05:31 PM
There are things that you really don't want to see that much larger than life... especially if it's not the classiest of movies...

And that, my friends, is my 3,000th post!