View Full Version : Harry Potter and The Order of The Phoenix


DCtitan49
07-12-2007, 09:38 PM
seeing it in less then an hour, lets start the discussions about the movie....

good?

bad?

The Gloat
07-12-2007, 10:06 PM
It'll probably be good. I couldn't be seen in public watching a Harry Potter movie though. That's worse than watching the Pixar movies due to the nerdism of it. Maybe I'm just insecure. :(

LT21Titans27
07-13-2007, 12:11 AM
I saw the 1st 2, read the 1st 3 books, I liked the story and everything, I just stopped tho, O well

avvie
07-13-2007, 05:20 AM
I tried to like the HP series, but just couldn't. Maybe it's the British presentation, or maybe because there's so damn much "magic" going on all the time that I can't follow what's really happening. It's a huge distraction that wears thin after a while.

Broken Record
07-13-2007, 09:00 AM
I'm too ADD to read the books, but I also tried watching some of the movies and never could get into it either.

Crash Override
07-13-2007, 09:34 AM
i actually have read all the books so far, sad yes i know but i actually like the hp series

Gunny
07-13-2007, 09:38 AM
Love the books, love the movies.

VolnTitan
07-13-2007, 09:52 AM
I started reading the books with my daughter when she was young. We would read them and then talk about them. Good bonding experience. Now she is 19 and going to a hoity-toity college and reads all kinds of metaphysical and philosophy books. She asked yesterday if we were getting the new one next week so we could read it. Good or bad, wouldn't pass it reading it for the last time...

cdy_hitt
07-13-2007, 12:09 PM
Love the books and movies.

PhiSlammaJamma
07-13-2007, 12:30 PM
Love the movies. But I had to watch that one with the Willow and rat and werewolf and time lapse like three times to figure it out.

Starkiller
07-13-2007, 02:10 PM
Love the books. The movies are OK.

LazyManJackson
07-13-2007, 06:34 PM
I prefer 'His Dark Materials', looking forward to the movie in December, as long as they keep the atheism in tact...

Read the HP books, seen the movies, so I'll probably see this one eventually...

Gunny
07-13-2007, 06:58 PM
I prefer 'His Dark Materials', looking forward to the movie in December, as long as they keep the atheism in tact...

the what?

Bobo
07-13-2007, 06:58 PM
Put me down for love the books, movies have gotten better (well actually I think the 3rd is the best, hope the 5th can top it).

Gunny
07-13-2007, 06:59 PM
Love the movies. But I had to watch that one with the Willow and rat and werewolf and time lapse like three times to figure it out.

If you haven't read the books I can see how it wouldn't make much sense.

Starkiller
07-13-2007, 07:35 PM
They cut so much from the books to fit into a 2+ hour movie, it loses a lot of magic (as it were). Like for this movie, there is apparently no quidditch. The Weasley Is Our King stuff was great in the book, but its all gone now.

Puck
07-13-2007, 07:43 PM
the what?
a VERY underappreciated collection
every bit as spectacular as Harry Potter
I've read all 3 and was enthralled every minute of it
http://www.amazon.com/Materials-Trilogy-Golden-Compass-Spyglass/dp/0440238609/ref=sr_1_1/102-3839680-9543349?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184369943&sr=1-1
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51TS1XAVGXL._SS500_.jpg
the 1st movie "The Golden Compass" will be out this holiday

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Gunny
07-13-2007, 08:31 PM
Might have to check it out.

Bobo
07-13-2007, 08:49 PM
So will they have to release all 3 of those movies Puck? Or can they stand on their own? (like I think Narnia did?)

Puck
07-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Might have to check it out.

yo know I wouldn't lead you wrong

btw ... the a partial list of the cast

Daniel Craig (the new James Bond) he's Lord Asriel
Nicole Kidman (bad girl)
Sam Elliot
Kevin Bacon
Eric Bana
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385752/

Puck
07-13-2007, 08:52 PM
So will they have to release all 3 of those movies Puck? Or can they stand on their own? (like I think Narnia did?)

Production is planned for all 3 titles

fun fact: "Ten thousand girls turned up for open auditions in Cambridge, Oxford, Exeter and Kendal for the role of Lyra Belacqua. "

(Lyra is the key character) her buddy is the Armored Bear

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/reviews/1887/_11782299229116.jpg

Puck
07-13-2007, 09:04 PM
http://www.blogdecine.com/images/2007/07/thegoldencompass.jpg
http://www.blogdecine.com/images/2006/12/luces_del_Norte.jpg
http://www.muchomovies.net/Posters/thegoldencompass.jpg

Starkiller
07-13-2007, 10:09 PM
I saw that trailer on Apple's site. Looks like it could be a good fantasy movie, but perhaps geared more towards kids. But then I've never read the books.

Ever since the LOTR movies and Harry Potter, Hollywood has been pushing more fantasy movies (Hollywood is anything but original). I'm all for more good movies, but I was kinda disappointed with The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe.

Gunny
07-13-2007, 10:11 PM
I actually liked Lion, Witch, Wardrobe. Considering the book has very little in it to make it a decent movie.

Starkiller
07-13-2007, 10:23 PM
It wasn't terrible, I just thought it could have been much better.

Bobo
07-13-2007, 11:14 PM
I agree there SK. It was aight. I also hope they don't start throwing out a bunch of crap fantasy movies, but I love the fact that there's a large enough audience to make Hollywood try. Couldn't they have figured that out quite awhile ago with Star Wars and ET?

Starkiller
07-13-2007, 11:40 PM
The problem is that when someone comes out with a successful new idea, it gets copied on a massive scale (especially in movies and TV). When those slapdash copies aren't successful, they inevitably move on to the next new successful idea.

avvie
07-14-2007, 12:05 AM
I actually liked Lion, Witch, Wardrobe. Considering the book has very little in it to make it a decent movie.

I found the Narnia series in a box in our warehouse and read TL,W, and W and watched the movie a couple of days later. I thought it was pretty faithful.

Gunny
07-14-2007, 01:27 AM
I found the Narnia series in a box in our warehouse and read TL,W, and W and watched the movie a couple of days later. I thought it was pretty faithful.

Oh it is certainly faithful, but the book is what? 150 pages? Not much happens for it to be a 2 hour movie.

Puck
07-14-2007, 02:14 AM
WARNING >>>>> POSSIBLE SPOLIER ALERT

I've failed to mention that I saw Order of the Phoenix today
saw it on IMAX @ Opry Mills

and without going to much into it,...... I was very disappointed
save for about the last 30 minutes of the movie
J.K. should be ashamed of how the direction is ruining her vision

the effects are getting better .... the movies are getting worse

The Good :
Ron wasn't portrayed as a sniveling little puss-tart this time
Dumbledore vs. Voldemort !
Very dark
Gripping flashbacks
Harry gets pissed off
No Quidditch !
Centaurs UNITE !
very little Malfoy Jr.
Malfoy Sr. gets his *** kicked


The Bad :
acting ..... or lack thereof
too many scenes of nothing but staring at each other
too much emphasis on Umbridge
the "trio" are still a little to whiny
"Oh Harry! ... Oh Sirius!"
"Oh Harry whatever will we do?"
for such a long movie that left out alot of book content, there sure were alot of stagnant scenes
several aspects of the plot were out of order

It had it's moments
at times it was very dramatic
at others it hardly resembled a movie
I understand the challenges of making a movie from such a long book, but alot of the most critical plots from the book are ommitted entirely and there were a few things that seemed to have been fabricated
i get the impression that the director sat down with the book ... thumbed through the chapters and wrote the screenplay from random selections
actually, I'm not sure the director even read the book

Now .... the art direction was great
the FX (at times) were incredible
but the only real character development was Umbridge
and the plot seemed erratic and disjointed


If you've never seen a Potter film, then this might appeal to you
If you've recently finished this book, it should piss you off

I was bored at times .... removed at others
the great moments of this film are short and left me wanting

MY ADVICE :
go to the matinee if you must see it in theaters
or rent it on DVD when it comes out


I'm sorry
I've been a Potter fan since Sorcerer's Stone
I think JK Rowling is a great author
but she really should let someone better produce her movies

Gunny
07-14-2007, 03:03 AM
You are the first person I have heard from or spoken to who hasn't liked it. I haven't seen it yet, but I will be soon-ish.

LazyManJackson
07-14-2007, 09:54 AM
Great to see appreciation for Phillip Pullman, its actually called the Northern Lights, instead of the Golden Compass in the U.K, I wonder how that will work...

They're not just kids books, the films will probably gear that way, but its not a fairy tale, in the final book, they try to kill God if I remember correctly...

Puck
07-14-2007, 11:10 AM
You are the first person I have heard from or spoken to who hasn't liked it. I haven't seen it yet, but I will be soon-ish.

some Potter fans are just apologists, like the Star Wars fans who thought JarJar was a great character

I tried to get into the film, but stagnant scene after stagnant scene left we wishing the damn thing would just end. Some of the best parts of the movie are the shortest

and it is odd, ...OotP was her longest book - yet her shortest film :wtf:
it wouldn't have been so bad, if the cast hadn't spent half the movie standing around staring at each other with this "i just crapped my trousers look"

go see it .... enjoy it (or try)
interesting how she keeps changing directors
and while David Yates did a pretty good job, he didn't seem very informed of the source material

Puck
07-14-2007, 11:16 AM
Great to see appreciation for Phillip Pullman, its actually called the Northern Lights, instead of the Golden Compass in the U.K, I wonder how that will work...
.

here's how it will work :
It will be called the Golden Compass
#2 will be called The Subtle Knife
#3 will be called The Amber Spyglass

cdy_hitt
07-14-2007, 11:18 AM
Leaving to see Harry Potter in a few minutes.

Gunny
07-14-2007, 11:26 AM
some Potter fans are just apologists, like the Star Wars fans who thought JarJar was a great character

Perhaps, though I know someone who is going to see it for the 3rd time tomorrow.

and it is odd, ...OotP was her longest book

I don't have the adult version of the half blood prince, how many pages does it have? I know Phoenix has 956 or thereabouts. I thought HB Prince would be over 1000 though.

Gunny
07-14-2007, 11:27 AM
Great to see appreciation for Phillip Pullman, its actually called the Northern Lights, instead of the Golden Compass in the U.K, I wonder how that will work...

I was looking for the Golden Compass today at the bookstore couldn't find it for obvious reasons but I get the feeling Northern Lights was there.

LazyManJackson
07-14-2007, 11:40 AM
I was looking for the Golden Compass today at the bookstore couldn't find it for obvious reasons but I get the feeling Northern Lights was there.
Yeah, here is how it looks

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/Northern_lights.jpg

Puck
07-14-2007, 11:49 AM
I was looking for the Golden Compass today at the bookstore couldn't find it for obvious reasons but I get the feeling Northern Lights was there.

next time ask for His Dark Materials
or for the Author Philip Pullman

Puck
07-14-2007, 11:50 AM
Perhaps, though I know someone who is going to see it for the 3rd time tomorrow.


did they see The Phantom Menace 3 times too ?

Starkiller
07-14-2007, 12:10 PM
I'm sorry
I've been a Potter fan since Sorcerer's Stone
I think JK Rowling is a great author
but she really should let someone better produce her movies
The real problem is that her books are great partly because of the details and intricacies she weaves into the story. That just can't be shoehorned into a movie even as long as these are becoming. This book was 870 pages. Yanking out numerous parts hurts the story.

If you had never read the books then I don't know if you miss what you don't know is missing. But either way, the books are just better regardless.

Gunny
07-14-2007, 12:29 PM
did they see The Phantom Menace 3 times too ?

Doubt it, but as far as I know I am a bigger Harry Potter fan than anyone I know who has seen it. So they aren't apologists (and I found another who seen it and didn't like it)

Gunny
07-14-2007, 12:30 PM
This book was 870 pages.

Adult version? (with the black cover)

Starkiller
07-14-2007, 12:44 PM
The US hardcover version, which is blue.

DCtitan49
07-14-2007, 12:58 PM
my only questions about the movie, are..

1. Since when does harry think he is Tom Brady and the $hit out there "teaching" everyone how to kill things, how does he even know all this stuff??? i thought Hermione (or whatever the f*** her name is) was the smart witch.

2. Why did they choose such an ugly actor for harry to be attracted too???

cdy_hitt
07-14-2007, 03:54 PM
Loved the movie! Thought it was the best yet.

Gunny
07-14-2007, 07:29 PM
1. Since when does harry think he is Tom Brady and the $hit out there "teaching" everyone how to kill things, how does he even know all this stuff??? i thought Hermione (or whatever the f*** her name is) was the smart witch.

He's done it all before, no one else has and Umbridge wasn't letting them doing any magic for their end of year OWLs. And he isn't teaching anyone how to kill things he is teaching them how to defend themselves.

2. Why did they choose such an ugly actor for harry to be attracted too???

She's not ugly and who cares.

Puck
07-14-2007, 07:48 PM
Loved the movie! Thought it was the best yet.

too bad that doesn't say much
I still don't see what people see in this movie
up until the moment that Umbridge is taken into the forest and the kids go to the Ministry, I found it to be utterly flat and disconnected

the final 1/2 hour or so was great
the 100 minutes prior ... not so much

please, I'd love to hear what of the first 3/4 of the movie was appealing

Gunny
07-14-2007, 08:21 PM
Puck, don't go all Gloat on us and tell people what they are thinking. He liked it, end of story.

Puck
07-14-2007, 10:08 PM
:ha:
I'd love to take that personally
I did ask him what about it he "loved", so lighten up

I am being a tad harsh on the film, I admit
and I'll (privately) continue to until someone can produce a positive synopsis

Gunny
07-14-2007, 10:57 PM
I don't meant to make it personal if it came off like that.

It's fine if you didn't like it, but I don't see a need to question why someone did like it.

Some people like a movie simply because they enjoyed it without any real reason to go in depth.

Riverman
07-15-2007, 08:04 PM
.....

I am being a tad harsh on the film, I admit
and I'll (privately) continue to until someone can produce a positive synopsis

If you haven't read the book the movie was a B+. I agree the plot seemed disjointed and newer characters were grossly underdeveloped. But the FX were indeed spectacular. I disagree with your comments regarding too many slow scenes. There was one absolutely touching scene when Ron, Harry, and Hermione are by the fire exchanging some banter and a fade to black each with self-satisfied smiles. I though it hit mark for adolescent friendships.

I saw it with my 13 year old daughter who has read every book cover to cover since they came out. She thought the movie sucked. :)

Puck
07-15-2007, 08:34 PM
I saw it with my 13 year old daughter who has read every book cover to cover since they came out. She thought the movie sucked. :)

tell her she's not alone

DCtitan49
07-15-2007, 09:19 PM
same^^


movie rankings

1. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
2. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
3. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
4. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
5. Harry Potter and the Sorcer's Stone

cdy_hitt
07-16-2007, 12:23 AM
Puck, don't go all Gloat on us and tell people what they are thinking. He liked it, end of story.

:truedat:

Puck
07-16-2007, 01:13 AM
oh c'mon .....
all I wanted to know was what you like about it
and why you think it's the best yet

VolnTitan
07-16-2007, 12:32 PM
It is an opinion. There isn't a right one or a wrong one. If they think it is great, that is their opinion. They don't have to qualify it to someone on a message board. What makes your opinion better than theirs? "Citizen Kane" is supposed to be a great movie. Bored me to tears, but not going to insist that others show me proof why it is great.

GoTitans3801
07-16-2007, 02:28 PM
He's not asking them to prove that it is great, he just wants to know what they liked about it.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to ask the reasons for someone's opinions on a message board.

DCtitan49
07-16-2007, 03:41 PM
without the gloats at Gotitans.com what are we??

Puck
07-16-2007, 05:18 PM
He's not asking them to prove that it is great, he just wants to know what they liked about it.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to ask the reasons for someone's opinions on a message board.

Thank You

I see nothing wrong with asking someone what they thought was good about it. Had I not already disclosed my opinion of the movie, this would seem like a decent and almost necessary question

if someone says "I like Vince Young" and someone were to ask "What do you like best about Vince ?" ,I don't think we'd have all this negativity

VolnTitan
07-16-2007, 06:42 PM
I saw the movie and it is a Harry Potter movie. What would you expect? The effects were well done, but it is what it is.

DCtitan49
07-16-2007, 06:45 PM
yea, i myself and other people have to remember, the 5th harry potter isnt going to have a Begining or End, its just going to be one long drawn out middle, because its still got more books to show... i still think the movie should be lengthened to 4 hours - 4 and a half hours....

Gunny
07-18-2007, 07:35 AM
i still think the movie should be lengthened to 4 hours - 4 and a half hours....

what?

DCtitan49
07-18-2007, 10:21 AM
what?

harry potter movies should be longer, because the books are like 800 pages..

Lord of the rings had shorter books the potter, and there movies ranged from 3 hours - 4 hours....

lord of the rings didnt leave that much out, Harry potter is constantly leaving little parts out, but all together they build up, the movie looses its grab on you....

LazyManJackson
07-18-2007, 03:59 PM
harry potter movies should be longer, because the books are like 800 pages..

Lord of the rings had shorter books the potter, and there movies ranged from 3 hours - 4 hours....

lord of the rings didnt leave that much out, Harry potter is constantly leaving little parts out, but all together they build up, the movie looses its grab on you....
The HP movies are marketed for everyone, unlike LOTR...

Gunny
07-18-2007, 05:35 PM
LOTR left tonnes out.

Blazing Arrow
07-18-2007, 05:37 PM
lord of the rings didnt leave that much out, Harry potter is constantly leaving little parts out, but all together they build up, the movie looses its grab on you....

I take it you did not actually read the LOTR series then by your comment?

RyansTitans
07-20-2007, 07:34 AM
lol someone leaked the ending of the final book

Gunny
07-20-2007, 07:43 AM
Why would you even post that without at least saying it is a possible spoiler?

I am glad I didn't read any of that, if I had and it had ruined the ending I would have gotten a life time ban for the abuse I would have given you.

RyansTitans
07-20-2007, 08:12 AM
lol dont worry dude I was messing around with the Potter fans in this thread. That was just something someone made up to what he THOUGHT was going to happen.

But....

I have the true spoilers.. they are 100% real.. and if you ever feel the need to look before you end the final book.. if you cant resist finding out what happens you can click this link.

http://www.zendurl.com/h/hallows/

TitanJeff
07-20-2007, 09:14 AM
Anyone who spoils the ending for me in this forum is banned for life. ;)

RyansTitans
07-20-2007, 09:30 AM
I dont see it in the rules.

Not that im going to spoil it cuz I really dont know if that link is true or not.

Looks legit tho. idk. Find out at Midnight

TitanJeff
07-20-2007, 09:34 AM
I dont see it in the rules.
Two words:
DEATH PENALTY.

:wave:

ammotroop
07-25-2007, 09:45 AM
I am reading the final book right now...some good twist..

mdfan
07-25-2007, 10:01 AM
I am reading the final book right now...some good twist..


IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE FINAL BOOK THE LINK BELOW CONTAINS SPOILERS
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19935372/
n her first tell-all interview since the release of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows,” J.K. Rowling told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira she “probably will” publish a Potter encyclopedia, promising many more details about her beloved characters and the fate of the wizarding world beyond the few clues provided in the seventh book’s epilogue.

GoTitans3801
07-25-2007, 11:23 AM
Ryantitans, your spoiler links are wrong. I mean, the links work, but the spoilers on the site are all wrong, or at least 90% of them are.