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GLinks
08-26-2007, 06:48 PM
I couldn't resist posting this since he seldom travels and posts here anymore. Enjoy.


Titans 2007 Preview




"2007 will present many challenges looming ahead but one needs to look back but one yr and remember the nightmare that existed in Nashville. There was the Volek fiasco over lying to Chow, Chow pounding him mercilessly, and Fisher shipping him out to SD and bringing Collins in so late.......and then turning the job over to him and not VY because VY was felt to be too green. We had CBrowns agents making a trade request because they thought he was deserving of a new deal............He got burried on the depth chart after a terrible opening game against the new Jet 3-4. We also had Roos flipping to the LT spot and no idea how he'd do and Hartwig telling the media how dysfunctional the lockeroom was. We had AJones show in preseason after a tumultuous rookie yr and we had no WR's outside of Drew Bennett. RB spot was a sore subject. THenry was coming off a terrible yr with a suspension and Fisher showed CBrown who was the boss............... and we had a new QB with many people questioning his pro prospects based on his tools since the media said Fisher and Chow wanted MLeinart. We had a GM in open war with the coaching staff and a fractured lockeroom. The season turned in week four against the Cowboys at home. VY got the start after a nightmare performance by Collins in Miami. The Titans got spanked badly in the first half and we lost our best DL to his temper and terrible behavior. Post game the big story was Jones asking for TO's shoes on the field with TO abliging him. The real story was to unfold the next week. The Titans went up to Indy, a place where they got hammered the last 4 yrs and lost by a point and VY played very well against a good team. THenry showed up that day. The coaches decided to make some changes and the season turned on a dime. Within 4 weeks, VY was the story in the league and the seasons fortunes changed based on chemistry.

This offseason, our only real issue has been the suspension of AJones, which was met with much national fanfare but really made training camp quite serene because there was no distractions. It was all about football. There was record attendance in offseason work outs. The fanbase was a bit perturbed by some offseason moves to let Drew Bennett and THenry leave and seemingly not replace those losses. Some questioned the selection of a S in round one who would move to CB. Well after three preseason games this is clear. Entering 2007 the Titans have less questions surrounding them and less off field distractions. The depth is as good as it was in 99 or 2000. The coaching staff remained fairly intact and Fisher looks to enter the season with a new deal and a promising young roster.

QB...........went from the most questionable areas of last yrs roster to solid in one yrs time. Collins is a bad starter but he will be fine in a pinch. He knows the offense now and it shows. There is not likely to be a third kept because the rest of the roster has some serious talent that the team will want to keep. VY is the unquestioned leader of this young team. The team will go where he takes them. The biggest weakness is that we need to think about getting a QB to the PS to develop

RB............White is the leader for now.......CBrown surprisingly returned because he found there was no green in anyone elses back yd. He could still be the "one" here in Nashville after a solid preseason. CHenry is the new Henry and he looks to have alot of upside but he will be featured on third downs and ST and make a bigger impact in weeks 6-17. The depth is far better than any other time in TN Titan history. I see this area as an upgrade across the board because the talent is great and deeper and the OL is a yr better and cohesive as a unit. Roos is clearly a top 5 LT who is a virtual unknown and Mawae has found the fountain of youth due to VY's ability. Bell is the ideal OG with VY as a QB because of his feet and I see him as a future pro bowler and I think David Stewart is one of the best young RT 's in the NFL. This is the bread and butter for the O. VY is also a serious rushing threat based upon his 500 plus yds last yr in 11 games and 7 rushing TD's.

OL............this is the priamry strength of the TN Titans...........no group is better and they are very good at every spot. There is also deep depth with Amano, Loper and Wand. The new addition of Harris is also needed with Mawae getting up in age. This group makes the running game happen and they will not give up because they adore VY..............they will go the distance to protect the Franchise.

TE...........Flashy it is not.........but Bo Scaife is the lead dog. He has uncanny communication with the franchise and he will put up Wycheck numbers this yr. Hartsock replaces Kinney in two TE sets and has been a real find. He is solid all around but not flashy. Cramer is the guy that is the glue of a team..........he does nothing individually that stands out but he never makes mistakes and he makes plays on ST and when he gets the chance to play on O ( remember Washington last yr)..........He is a football player that you want on your team. Troupe is a major disappointment because he was drafted high and has more talent than any TE the Oilers/ Titans have ever had........to be fair injuries have slowed him...........but I believe our offensive philsophy has changed so much that I think he'd best be served elsewhere. I see him as a possible trade or even cut.

WR............the national media thinks we have nothing here........so do many AFC South fans. I think they are in for a surprise. But those at BSP and here know that losing Bennett was not that big a loss. 46 catches will easily be replaced by BJones who had 27 in 10 games. Moulds replaces Bobby Wades 33 catches. Moulds had 57 catches last yr and that was considered a bad yr for him in Houston. The Titans are already better with these changes. I look for RWilliams and new rookie CDavis to be the third and fourth guys..........truthfully WR 5 and 6 I see on other rosters.......I see two pickups after final cut day. If a young one sticks it will be between Ealy and PWilliams. Personally, I think Ealy should get the nod because of his Scaife like relationship with the franchise. All in all.........this group is better and deeper and more explosive than the 2006 version...........now they have to show it.

DL................this is second biggest question in Titan camp. What do we have. Again folks here raised an eyebrow when I said we were going to be fine here without adding a SRice or any other cast off DE.............Odom and LaBoy can both play but have seen three yrs of adversity and constant injury. This yr their luck turns. KVB is a stable constant force who just needs help. No longer will teams OC's be able to slide protection to KVB. This will allow him to make the plays he did when he had KCarter and Haynesworth on the line his first yr in Nashville. Speaking of Fat Albert.....He is not so fat any longer and that is also a nice change this yr...............he has had a very quiet offseason and reported to camp in the best shape of his life. Remember its contract yr............I expect him to produce serious production because he has alot to prove emotionally mentally and physically to get paid like the top 5 DT in the league. Albert's issues last yr allowed us to find Tony Brown (silver lining).........Tony was a Panther cast off who was alot better than anyone thought including the Panthers. His best spot is DE and he can rotate down low..........but getting him on the edge is a must. The depth at DL is fine with Long and Mahelona and if Simon signs this group is solid. Connover is also a nice player but may get the axe........ Its a lot better than anyone will think. The preseason has shown that the Titans are alot better upfront than anyone thought.

LB.............OLB's is the best in the league. MLB remains the only question on this team.........no one has claimed the spot so I think the first Q of the season will determine who wins it much like our RB spot did last yr. I would expect Fowler to go against the Jags because of the Run first Jag O...........but I see Tulloch getting alot of snaps week two and three. The best news..........both Tulluch and Fowler are stud ST's. The depth here is also the best its been since 2000. MLB play will determine the run D........I think top 15 is likely.

CB..................Everyone predicted a drastic drop off because of the loss of Jones. You all know I said from OTA's we would not miss Jones on D at all based upon what I saw. The CB spot is deeper than it has ever been. Griffin looks to be a great pick and regardless of where he plays he is going to make plays. He proved it in OTA's, preseason games and all TC long. No player was more impressive for his meteoric improvement practice to practice. Finnegan was a great player for us last yr at nickle with 70 tackles and several picks and a TD's returns. He is a playmaker who hits and it 4.33 fast. Harper and Herndon are vets that have seen it all and give tremendous depth. Eric King is a young player who also made his mark all camp long especially at the nickle and dime spots. I predicted early we would not miss Jones at CB and I think people see why I said it now.

S...............SS is locked up..........CHope is probowl quality. Depth is great there with Lowry and Scott. In a pinch Finny and Griffin can play both S spots since both are ex Safeties. LT is the weak link but he has played great this preseason holding of fthe more physical Lowry. Scott could be cut but he has done nothing wrong and will be on a roster somewhere. DNickey is a very avg S but excels on ST and I think will make another roster. Fuller is a real nice player because he can play 5 DB spots.

ST...........this is the area where the loss of Jones will be huge. He was the best ST player in the AFC in my view. Only Hester was better but Jones changed games with his skills as a PR. I think we will get adequate replacement cost with Finny and CDavis. K is solid with Bironas who had the best camp of any K I have personally seen in Nashville. He has confidence now with a yr of experience and he needed to be pushed with the competition he go tthis TC. Hentrich is the best directional punter in the league and remains quite viable and is a weapon in his old age.

Coaching............Will Fisher let JS unleash the dogs on D? That is the question ...........but this scheme has always required great outside man coverage to really get its full effect...........this is the first yr since 2000 that the Titan D has that..............I think KBulluck has a chance to make Def player of the yr if they let him go wreck havoc. On O.........Chow needs to let VY grow............he will have ups and downs but he will be a matchup nightmare for 80% of our opposition.

The schedule is 4th most difficult but I have broke it down to FA losses and additions and I think we face more bad run D's than most teams. this plays to our strength............The games that will be the toughest for the Titans will no longer be the Colts............It will be Jax and SD. The rest of the games I think are going to be very doable for this roster..............I personally see an 8-8 or 9-7 record...........but the quality of the wins will be much better than 06 and the losses likely wont be as harsh as we saw last yr especially starting the yr. The upside is very high if the D comes to play and VY goes on to progress the way I think he will ...................but we could be worse if the run D faulters. Any injury to VY will cripple this team but I think we can sustain hits to many spots without missing a hitch unlike the Colts."

GoTitans3801
08-27-2007, 05:52 AM
Thanks for posting it. I always appreciate hearing bongos take. It's too bad he doesn't show up here much anymore.

Sounds like he's feeling great about the team.

zackmann
08-27-2007, 06:33 PM
thanks for posting this...

TitanKid4Life
08-27-2007, 06:36 PM
So what happened to Bongo? He seemed like he always thought that he knew what was going on, but it never really turned out the way he said it. Does anyone know why he just doesnt come here anymore?

GoTitans3801
08-27-2007, 07:28 PM
My bet is too many people were just bashing his stuff. I don't blame him.

guitarjunkie
08-27-2007, 10:00 PM
Man, I always enjoyed his stuff............... whether it happened or not.......... You know how stuff changes............. Still I miss the Bongo report........... Thanx for the post........... I'll be lookin for more............

Yossarian
08-27-2007, 10:12 PM
great post

TitanKid4Life
08-28-2007, 12:30 AM
Man, I always enjoyed his stuffAs did I.

Titanmc
08-28-2007, 01:59 AM
Where does he post? I too enjoy his posts and would like hear more from him.

Gunny
08-28-2007, 05:58 AM
TOMB isn't it? Or Titanscentral?

GLinks
08-28-2007, 08:55 AM
TC. But only on occasion. More haters there than here. More Bongo haters, that is.

GLinks
08-28-2007, 09:15 AM
Bongo added this nugget yesterday:


"i think an old face at WR could be back in Nashville.........for another guy who just built a large home here could be shipped out to fit a large hole just created.............

two trades are cooking."


Benji Olson for Justin McCareins, said Starkiller.



"JMac knows how to play with a QB who makes plays outside the pocket unlike most vet WR's.........in NY he has a statue and it is a pure timing Offense. He is ill suited to it and far better suited here. Most of the verbage is identical to when he left.........it would not take him very long ot acclimate.

And Jmac is not the only Jets they are interested in.....there are two others they are talking about..............there are 2 def players, one who suits this team quite well and is ill suited to their scheme.........and they just drafted his replacement and he has had a great camp............they need a team who can take a big salary and we can."



"harris has been a monster this TC........and so has Barton and they are perfect fits with Shaun Ellis and Bryan Thomas at OLB..........Jets have Cotch and Coles and they have no one behind Baker...........they need an OG bad.........Jacob Bender got man raped by Jtuck last week after Kendall left................they cant go that root...........they are also talking to the Panthers and SF about OG. Mangini would love to free up some cap with JMac DRob or Vilma for the right deal...................Mangini is also seriously thinking about looking to replce Penny this yr with Clemmens since the youngster looks so good................they need cap relief..........and they have really made a change to a 3-4 and neither DRob or Vilma are good fits.........but they wont give them away."


"Jets have been quietly shopping all three for a while now..........but they want alot in return for Vilma...............but he would be the ideal 4-3 MLB here..........and with MR seeing how big an impact Tatupu made in Sea things are a bit different now at BSP............we'll see how it all plays out............but this roster aint close to being done.............something is gonna happen after cut day."


My proposal was Olson, Starks, Troupe and a 2nd for that group. Might have to give up a WR, too. DRob is probably the lynchpin, since his salary is ridiculous for his performance to date ($4.5M this year, $7.5M next), but a swap that included him and Olson would make it doable, and we have the room.


But most of all, I would want Vilma. Top 10 defense would be a certainty.

Sorries would be handed out to Tulloch and Fowler. Thanks for playing. But it would be worth it. Vilma would surpass Godfrey, I'd believe, here in Tennessee, and with him, I think Bulluck would finally go to the Pro Bowl.

zackmann
08-28-2007, 09:57 AM
don't go getting me all excited with rumors of trading for Vilma....

Smash
08-28-2007, 10:00 AM
I still dislike his way of writing. It seems to me that he hears a lot of stuff and them makes even up himself in order for it to make sense. I can't remember the last time Bongo was actually right.

GLinks
08-28-2007, 10:21 AM
don't go getting me all excited with rumors of trading for Vilma....

I'm doing it! :))

GLinks
08-28-2007, 10:22 AM
I still dislike his way of writing. It seems to me that he hears a lot of stuff and them makes even up himself in order for it to make sense. I can't remember the last time Bongo was actually right.


He was very right about Pacman from the beginning.

Dangermode
08-28-2007, 10:43 AM
He had me until the part about benching Pennington. There is no way with the Jets talking playoffs that they bench a proven commodity in Pennington. Not gonna happen.

Unless he majorley spits the bed of course.

zackmann
08-28-2007, 10:47 AM
He had me until the part about benching Pennington. There is no way with the Jets talking playoffs that they bench a proven commodity in Pennington. Not gonna happen.

Unless he majorley spits the bed of course.
i can't remember exactly, but i think Peter King from SI has mentioned the same thing about Pennington getting benched in NJ...definitely not out of the question...

zackmann
08-28-2007, 10:49 AM
the one aspect that I get hung up on when dreaming of Vilma joining the titans is that he wouldn't be on the field as much as someone as good as him deserves to be....i'm guess that when we go nickel, he would come off the field....

GLinks
08-28-2007, 11:00 AM
A player like Vilma could stay most of the time, like Godfrey did.

GLinks
08-28-2007, 11:01 AM
He had me until the part about benching Pennington. There is no way with the Jets talking playoffs that they bench a proven commodity in Pennington. Not gonna happen.

Unless he majorley spits the bed of course.


Pennington could get benched, especially if Clemmons plays as good as he's looked so far.

Smash
08-28-2007, 12:30 PM
A player like Vilma could stay most of the time, like Godfrey did.

Not with Chief Red Hat calling the plays.

bigtitan53279
08-28-2007, 02:02 PM
the one aspect that I get hung up on when dreaming of Vilma joining the titans is that he wouldn't be on the field as much as someone as good as him deserves to be....i'm guess that when we go nickel, he would come off the field....
depending on the team we're playing, we would have enough speed at LB for all three of them to stay on the field. i mean, if we're playing the colts, you would want the nickleback out there, but if it's the jags i'd say leave the 'backers out there.

KamikaZ
08-28-2007, 02:18 PM
It would be fantastic to pick up Vilma and McCareins IMO...

Dangermode
08-28-2007, 04:35 PM
I agree

Gunny
08-29-2007, 08:30 AM
I still dislike his way of writing. It seems to me that he hears a lot of stuff and them makes even up himself in order for it to make sense. I can't remember the last time Bongo was actually right.

Yeah I remember that massive draft day trade with the first 10 picks last year or whatever it was.

GoTitans3801
08-29-2007, 09:18 AM
It was a trade that was being discussed. I'm sure hundreds, if not thousands of trades are discussed that don't actually happen. If anything, the fact that we're still interested in Vilma lends more credibility to the story. Of course, all the info comes from bongo, so it's easy for him to bolster his own story.

LT21Titans27
08-29-2007, 11:05 PM
Does Bongo post ne where alot ne more??

He had good reads

TitanJeff
08-30-2007, 08:04 AM
http://www.kimmelskorner.com/Images/knight_ni.gif

Carpy
08-30-2007, 09:51 AM
http://www.kimmelskorner.com/Images/knight_ni.gif

What the hell is that?????

titanbuoy
08-30-2007, 02:04 PM
What the hell is that?????

http://www.kimmelskorner.com/Images/knight_ni.gif
"We are now no longer the Knights who say Ni... We are now the Knights who say..."Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG. Zoom-Boing. Z'nourrwringmm."

Perhaps Jeff refused to give Bongo a shrubbery in payment for his oddly punctuated Titans' "exclusives".

SEC 330 BIPOLAR
08-30-2007, 02:10 PM
Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.

TitanJeff
08-30-2007, 04:38 PM
Does Bongo post ne where alot ne more??
Ne.

RyansTitans
08-30-2007, 04:44 PM
Whos Bongo?

GoTitans3801
08-30-2007, 04:47 PM
Hahahahaha....

RyansTitans
08-30-2007, 04:58 PM
Whats so funny? I asked a question. He seems like a cool person and judging by these replies in this thread he got ran out cuz some of you guys criticized his opinions and stuff. That wasn't very nice was it?

SEC 330 BIPOLAR
08-30-2007, 05:13 PM
http://www.gotitans.com/goForum/member.php?u=837

GoTitans3801
08-30-2007, 05:15 PM
It's just funny. I'd forgotten that you wouldn't even know who someone like bongo is, and it just amuses me. You can't buy experience.

Hoffa
08-30-2007, 05:42 PM
I liked Bongo...

GoTitans3801
08-30-2007, 05:57 PM
Me too, his information was always entertaining, and gave a different perspective than we get from most of the posters.

RyansTitans
08-30-2007, 06:01 PM
He seems like a cool person. I like his Avatar lol

Gunny
08-30-2007, 06:01 PM
Has he ever been right? I can only remember one trade which was the draft last year which never happened (I think it was to get Leinart to go #1 in some weird way).

GoTitans3801
08-31-2007, 11:55 AM
He said a lot of correct things about pacman, and how he affected the team and the locker room.

Hoffa
08-31-2007, 01:08 PM
He called it on Pacman the day he was drafted.

He's right sometimes, wrong sometimes, but always entertaining.

Gunny
08-31-2007, 06:29 PM
He's right sometimes, wrong sometimes, but always entertaining.

Like everyone.

GLinks
09-01-2007, 01:33 AM
It's nice to hear stuff before it's solidified enough to report.

That's what some people can't take about Bongo59. They want it to be right, or they can't take hearing it without proof, they can't prove who he is, it's just hilarious. If you can enjoy believing that a facet of the posts are true close to the moment they are posted, it's quite enjoyable. It's also cool to see a board get polarized into sides, and the most extreme invariably bring their pitchforks and torches. Bongo's good for bringing out some real tools, I'll say. It's a little bit like elfinmagic53 and DC, which is kind of like the Coyote and the Roadrunner, if you know what I'm saying, but on a much much bigger scale, cuz Bongo will post on many fan sites when the word is hot.

And that trade rumor last year was a fun read. Jets Insider was a crazy place. That thread was -- the actual number will seem like an exaggeration -- over 80 pages or a couple hundred -- I can't recall exactly, but whichever, it was ridiculous. The top teams trying to figure out how to get what they want. Ended up nothing happened, except the one trade with the Jets for #29, and the Broncos traded, but nothing came together to make the top 10 unveil like a conspriacy. Very very hot ride, though.


So, if you can take it like that, Bongo's great. If you can't, you will hate, and you will turn to the Dark Side.

(Oh yeah, and it was all because everyone was sweating what the Texans would do, and what would happen if Reggie Bush fell. And then the Texans screwed it up!)

bongo59
09-26-2007, 10:41 PM
Look I post very proximally..........what that means is that I hear it and post it..........sometimes the way it comes out occurs but in different form. For example, the big draft trade was made later for Javon Walker.........it just did not happen on draft day..............

I get alot of stuff directly from players around the league............they may have an axe to grind or just want to get the real story out to the fans because the media is owned in some towns by the clubs............

Stuff that is personal on them I generally wont post...........somethings that are trival I will...............

Things I get right (said Roos would be a Titan pre draft becuase Munch went to see some russian guy 4 times) (Bell would be a stud OG based upon what Munch saw) (32 would be out fo the league by 2007, it was easy because I knew the dirt on him that the Titans would not let the media say)

Many of the things that folks say I got wrong just evolved differently...........I am not making excuses but it really started the way I heard it.............EG exit was a classic.............same with Mac and Jmac trade..................Some people want 100% correctness with footnotes and sources..............I dont do that............I post it like I hear it.........unfiltered...........and when I add my opinion to things I usually say so..............you should never read anything into it.............as for my TC 2007 Titan preview............go re read it.........after three games I think you'll see I got alot of that right before anyone else had the nutsack to say it outloud

Gunny
09-27-2007, 06:00 AM
(32 would be out fo the league by 2007, it was easy because I knew the dirt on him that the Titans would not let the media say)

technically that is not right.

titanbuoy
09-27-2007, 08:40 AM
I still love the album "Bongo Fury"

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/gracielynn_album/Zappa/fz27.jpg

http://www.beefheart.com/datharp/albums/boots/pics/elpaso75boot.jpg

Childress79
09-27-2007, 09:40 AM
Bongo please ignore the haters & come back & post here.

Some of us really appreciate it & accept that it's legit even if it doesn't always pan out exactly right.

GoTitans3801
09-27-2007, 10:50 AM
Ditto Childress' comments.

ammotroop
09-28-2007, 08:17 AM
Werd

johnnybow
09-30-2007, 10:55 AM
Bongo was always an interesting read.