View Full Version : Juno = Very forgettable.


Deuce Wayne
01-24-2008, 05:57 PM
Not sure why this movie is so praised, because it's about as mediocre as a film comes. Sometimes I think critics put too much focus on that retro/raw look a film has and forget that a good story is sometimes important in a movie.
It wasn't a bad movie by any means. Very boring about 1 hour or so through. I'm not sure what kind of movie it's supposed to be. It wasn't funny enough to be a comedy, not dramatic enough to be drama. So I'm not really sure what they were trying to deliver here. Just a story about a girl with nothing really happening the entire movie.

It's worth a watch, but I'll never watch it again. I'll never think about it again, and why it's 93% on RT, god knows.

KamikaZ
01-24-2008, 06:37 PM
I'm with you on this. The writer, Diablo Cody, is known to be one of the most pretentious writers around, and it shows with the cutsey, silly, retro-pop script that is pandered through-out. Yes, I know some teens talk in that witty manner, but it gets old, REALLY old, quite fast. However, it's a well-acted movie with a lot of genuine talent.

Juno is this years Little Miss Sunshine, a feel-good drama/comedy that gets overrated by virtually all the critics and viewers a like.

6/10.

bigtitan53279
01-24-2008, 06:44 PM
except little miss sunshine was good.

GoTitans3801
01-24-2008, 07:20 PM
Gloat, what movies, shows, etc... do you like?

Deuce Wayne
01-24-2008, 08:17 PM
I'm really easy to please when it comes to movies. I've only turned a handful of movies off. Only fell asleep during 2. I'm the type that usually thinks movies arent as bad as people make them out to be. (I am Legend being a recent example)
As long as it's got a good pace and flow, I'll probably at least enjoy it. Lately a lot of boring drawn out movies (No Country for Old men) are getting so much hype, and I don't understand it. Seems like today the more boring the movie, the more appreciated. A watered down plot that lasts 3 hours is genius!

That or chopped up crap that Tarantino puts out to cover his inability to create a decent story.

Starkiller
01-24-2008, 08:24 PM
Juno was great! I loved it.

bigtitan53279
01-24-2008, 08:27 PM
That or chopped up crap that Tarantino puts out to cover his inability to create a decent story.
:rolleyes:

Deuce Wayne
01-24-2008, 08:37 PM
Uh oh. Offended a Tarantino fan. lol Your best bet is to say you like his style. Don't try to argue for his crap plots. I've seen people do it and it never ends well.

bigtitan53279
01-24-2008, 08:41 PM
well, i do like non-linear type movies, not just tarantino. so his movies are right up my ally, along with guy ritchie and a few others.

however i will say death proof sucked. i also wasn't a big fan of jackie brown.

BigRed3
01-24-2008, 08:56 PM
I thought Juno was pretty good myself

Creeping-Cruds
01-24-2008, 09:43 PM
:rolleyes:

I'm not particularly anxious to go see Juno myself but Gloat says this stuff in part to get a rise.. People definitely appreciate stuff differently in their 20's than after a few years..
Pretty simple -Tarantino has made good stuff and some Ok stuff.

Deuce Wayne
01-24-2008, 10:20 PM
Yeah. I say Juno was bland to get a rise out of people. lol I didnt even say it was bad. And if I were trying to get a rise, I'd just make a thread about how the Matrix Trilogy sucked.

or maybe even, Keanu Reeves is better than your favorite actor.

Starkiller
01-24-2008, 10:47 PM
Juno isn't for everyone. It's often laugh out loud funny. And it's oddball while also being real. And at times is sweet.

But if you are a fan of action and horror and scifi but not drama then it may not be for you.

Deuce Wayne
01-24-2008, 10:56 PM
I dont recall one funny part. But, like I said. I expected a comedy. So, that was probably wrong.

Yossarian
01-24-2008, 11:31 PM
my favorite part was where Michigan lost to App. State..

crap wrong thread...

KamikaZ
01-24-2008, 11:43 PM
Starkiller is wrong in his assumption. I have an fairly wide taste in movie genres; the charm of the movie isn't lost on me. It's just about being able to see past the charm, and be let down by all the smugness of it. The script is absolutely absurd at times, and that's all good and fun, except the thing is so damn proud of how cute and witty it is, it's distracting with how much is coughed up. This is a script from a writer with too much pride in their own abilities, and it's a shame, because the main actress and the supporting has so much talent (Micheal Cera, Jason Bateman, and JK Simmons are fantastic actors).

And I mentioned Little Miss Sunshine only because it was vastly overrated by critics last year. It was a good movie, not a special movie that should have never been nominated for Best Picture, just like this piece. But LMS is a much better film than this, no question in my mind.

Creeping-Cruds
01-25-2008, 12:09 AM
Yeah. I say Juno was bland to get a rise out of people. lol I didnt even say it was bad. And if I were trying to get a rise, I'd just make a thread about how the Matrix Trilogy sucked.

or maybe even, Keanu Reeves is better than your favorite actor.

Wasn't talking about Juno in regard to the rise part..

TitanJeff
01-25-2008, 08:40 AM
or maybe even, Keanu Reeves is better than your favorite actor.
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/05/sprj.caf03.film.keanureeves.ap/story.bill.ted.ap.jpg
Excellent!

Gunny
01-25-2008, 08:44 AM
my favorite part was where Michigan lost to App. State..

crap wrong thread...

:ha:

Riverman
01-25-2008, 09:33 AM
I loved the movie.

The teen wit was very entertaining and the exploration of modern family dynamics was brilliant and charming. Admittedly, is was "mainstream" family, but IMO the better "thinker" films always accentuate the beauty of everyday living that is buried with the stress of just "getting by".

And how anybody could not love the character "Juno" as well as admire Ellen Page's performance is beyond me.

Deuce Wayne
01-25-2008, 06:02 PM
I just don't see the wit everyone talked/talks about. There weren't any quotable lines that I can remember. I was expecting more humor though with a warm story to compliment. Instead, I felt like I was watching a random person's life, with no artists' touches. Just bland.
Wasn't much to the story. I guess it's just another movie that falls victim to hype with no reason. So you expect something great, and all you end up with is another good movie that you wont remember a single line from.

It's like the Halo 3 of a movie. The ratings back up the hype, and I enjoy playing, but I just don't get it why it's so special.

Broken Record
02-17-2008, 04:58 AM
Just saw this on Friday. I enjoyed it and I'd probably watch it again at some point, but it certainly didn't blow me away. I could see where someone could get sick of the "too cool for school" teenager quips.

On the good side, I thought Allison Janney and J.K. Simmons were phenomenal as the parents. The scene where Janney's character cussed out the ultrasound tech made me laugh out loud.

Childress79
02-17-2008, 02:08 PM
Yeah. I say Juno was bland to get a rise out of people. lol I didnt even say it was bad. And if I were trying to get a rise, I'd just make a thread about how the Matrix Trilogy sucked.

or maybe even, Keanu Reeves is better than your favorite actor.

I find people who thinks it's good to say Keanu Reeves is a bad actor are more concerned about how others view them than having an opinion of their own.

Deuce Wayne
02-17-2008, 05:00 PM
I find people who thinks it's good to say Keanu Reeves is a bad actor are more concerned about how others view them than having an opinion of their own.
If saying Keanu Reeves is a bad actor, isn't something you naturally agree with. Uh. You don't know acting. Possibly the worst popular male actor on the planet.

Puck
02-17-2008, 06:57 PM
If saying Keanu Reeves is a bad actor,.....<>.... Possibly the worst popular male actor on the planet.

i vote Ben Affleck
however, I do give him high regards as a director; I was very impressed with Gone Baby Gone

Childress79
02-17-2008, 06:59 PM
If saying Keanu Reeves is a bad actor, isn't something you naturally agree with. Uh. You don't know acting. Possibly the worst popular male actor on the planet.

That unfortunately is a popular but incorrect opinion of many who think it's cool to label him as a terrible actor.

Happily he couldn't care less about critics who lazily never look at his lesser roles & stage work. He's proved many times that he can indeed act in different styles & personas.

You as a poster here are labeled negatively in a similar way that Reeves is for his acting.Ironic that your perceived as the Ted Logan of this board.:grrhee:

Deuce Wayne
02-17-2008, 08:55 PM
lmao, pure comedy. You don't think he's an emotionless "Ted" that plays the dumb role, nomatter what character he's supposed to be?
Yeah. It's just a "cool" opinion to think he's a terrible actor. Everyone decided we'd all think this way, because it's COOL!

are you serious? You do know you can like his movies, without liking his acting (or lack thereof), right?

Childress79
02-17-2008, 09:15 PM
lmao, pure comedy. You don't think he's an emotionless "Ted" that plays the dumb role, nomatter what character he's supposed to be?
Yeah. It's just a "cool" opinion to think he's a terrible actor. Everyone decided we'd all think this way, because it's COOL!

are you serious? You do know you can like his movies, without liking his acting (or lack thereof), right?


Maybe your just an easy mark that I chose to get a rise out of.:moon2:

Deuce Wayne
02-17-2008, 11:22 PM
Ohhhhh you got me Ashton! lol

Childress79
02-25-2008, 02:36 PM
Two thirds of the way into this movie I supported Gloats review.

The so called 'hip' adolescent dialog grew irritating after a while. I got it,I didn't hate it but then again I fail to see why it's had so much hype.The hype marks it down a score for me.

If I'd just stumbled upon it I'd have given it a 7 & said that it was a nice little movie.

The feel good moments with JK Simmons & Jennifer Garner's characters were worth watching it for but I can't imagine ever sitting down to see it again.

Because I viewed it as a let down after the hype.

6/10.

Creeping-Cruds
02-25-2008, 03:06 PM
The feel good moments with JK Simmons & Jennifer Garner's characters were worth watching it for but I can't imagine ever sitting down to see it again.


Having been a series-long fan of Oz, I just can't imagine JK Simmons and "feel good moments" in the same sentence.

http://www.durfee.net/oz/images/Schillinger6.jpg

Sappersis
02-25-2008, 10:47 PM
Two thirds of the way into this movie I supported Gloats review.

The so called 'hip' adolescent dialog grew irritating after a while. I got it,I didn't hate it but then again I fail to see why it's had so much hype.The hype marks it down a score for me.

If I'd just stumbled upon it I'd have given it a 7 & said that it was a nice little movie.

The feel good moments with JK Simmons & Jennifer Garner's characters were worth watching it for but I can't imagine ever sitting down to see it again.

Because I viewed it as a let down after the hype.

6/10.

See now i saw it before any of the hype and before anyone claimed it was a "comedy" so i absolutely LOVED it. I can quote at least a handful of lines if not more that had me rolling. I wasn't expecting someone to make me laugh about a teenager who doesn't want her baby, but the the female character was able to do that. I also appriciated that the movie wasn't focused on the schools' "popular" kids. Too many teenage dramas about "boo hoo hoo, I can no longer show my face to the in-crowd because i got knocked up."

I understand people don't like it... "its art, half the world will love it, half the world will hate it, and half of them are lying just to appease the others around them." but why does that make my OPPINION WRONG? I really don't get some of the posters on this board who take movie reviews so seriously. Even the proffesionals that make them don't care this much.

Starkiller
02-25-2008, 11:03 PM
The so called 'hip' adolescent dialog grew irritating after a while.
That's part of what made it funny...

VolnTitan
02-25-2008, 11:24 PM
Your opinion isn't wrong anymore than Gloat's opinion is right...it's just an opinion.

I went into that movie without any preconcieved notions and really enjoyed it. Saw "There Will Be Blood" and while was good, to me wasn't as good as some say...in my opinion.

Childress79
02-26-2008, 08:37 AM
I really don't get some of the posters on this board who take movie reviews so seriously. Even the proffesionals that make them don't care this much.

No idea if your including me in that Sapper but I'll answer it anyway because I am a harsh critic.

I love the arts.Books,music,films,television & theatre. I'm way more passionate about them than it's socially acceptable to be & a highly opinionated barsteward with it.

In terms of movies I'm ridiculously critical because that's the medium that seems to take the least note of what it's audience really wants. I just find it so frustrating when a movie comes out which has a wonderful idea that is badly executed.

Even if I enjoy a movie I'll still criticise it.The vast majority of critics who do it for a living are like sheep who rarely have their own opinion for fear of losing favour with the studios.

Yahoo.com's movie section has a pro critics review/ratings section alongside a members review/ratings section. The critics rarely make reviews that agree with the majority of opinions of those members of the public who've taken the time to write a review.

No Country For Old men & Juno are both excellent movies that suffered in my opinion due to the level of hype & awards frenzy surrounding them. No Country in particular seems to have the largest number of viewers who have watched it based on hype & exited the cinema wondering wtf was it about & why is everyone so hot for it.It was as true to a book as any film recently made but suffered for it a little as a result.

The ending of the book isn't ambiguous in any way.The only way to avoid that would be to add a narrative to the movie by Tommy Lee Jones character but IMO the Coen brothers did the right thing by leaving it hanging like they did.Those who see it & then seek out the book are the ones who'll really appreciate the story as they told it.The two mediums complement each other in this case which is a rare achievement.

Ultimately neither movie was aimed at the mainstream but through quality product & word of mouth ended up being hits. This hurts the general movie going audience as much as endless sequels because the studios rush out to find clones of any successful movie that's different.

They do so without ever understanding why a movie was well received.They would make a lot more money if they stopped messing about with target audience figures,stats & product placements.

I critique because I wish for & expect better. Rant,waffle over sweetpea.:clown:

Blazing Arrow
02-26-2008, 02:55 PM
So what do you really think Childress? :grrhee:

Childress79
02-26-2008, 05:30 PM
So what do you really think Childress? :grrhee:

That was the short version too.:))

Zodiac was one of the very best films of last year but it didn't get any recognition at all.:irked:

Sappersis
02-26-2008, 11:26 PM
No you were not included in that... I was just spitting wind about those who believe thier views alone matter.... the posters who don't know the definition of the word "opinion"

Broken Record
02-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Oh I'm pretty sure I'm the only one with an opinion that matters. Hold on, let me check... yeah, I'm the only one. ;)

Blazing Arrow
02-27-2008, 02:00 PM
Oh I'm pretty sure I'm the only one with an opinion that matters. Hold on, let me check... yeah, I'm the only one. ;)

Are you sure my name was not on that list? Check again .... I'll wait.

Alex1939
03-16-2008, 01:34 PM
I haven't seen the movie and don't know much about it.

I overheard some friends talking about it and one was complaining that the movie glorified teenage pregnancy. I think I also heard someone bashing the movie on one of the major news channels or something for the same reason.

I was just curious, for those that have seen it, if you at all felt that way or if these people are just being prudes?

Starkiller
03-16-2008, 02:20 PM
It hardly glorified teen pregnancy. She was, after all, seen as a "cautionary whale"...

onetontitan
03-16-2008, 02:21 PM
I totally loved Juno. It was amazing. The writer went from being a stripper to a superstar overnight.

Alex1939
03-16-2008, 02:52 PM
It hardly glorified teen pregnancy. She was, after all, seen as a "cautionary whale"...

Cool, I didn't really buy into that but I was wondering about it.

I heard it was funny like Superbad (haven't seen it) and Knocked Up (which I only thought was ok).


I'm sure I'll catch this movie at some point.

Starkiller
03-16-2008, 11:48 PM
Either way, I doubt watching Juno is going to convince you to run out and get pregnant... :ha:

Deuce Wayne
03-17-2008, 12:31 AM
I heard it was funny like Superbad (haven't seen it) and Knocked Up (which I only thought was ok).
If you're expecting anything 1/10th as funny as Superbad with this movie, you're going to be majorly disappointed.
It's not a comedy.

onetontitan
03-17-2008, 01:28 AM
If you're expecting anything 1/10th as funny as Superbad with this movie, you're going to be majorly disappointed.
It's not a comedy.

Juno is a comedy, but honestly, if you're not into the things she is into in the movie (like the indie atmosphere) you won't like this movie. Its a mix of Napoleon Dynamite and Knocked Up from a womans perspective. I loved it, some of the best dialogue in years. Completely underrated in my opinion.

Gunny
03-17-2008, 08:22 AM
urgh Napolean Dynamite is the unfunniest movie I ever seen.

Deuce Wayne
03-17-2008, 06:39 PM
Well yeah. There ya go. If you found Napoleon Dynamite funny, then you'll probably think this is hilarious.
But then again, if you found Napoleon Dynamite funny, me doing laundry would be comedy gold.

I'm with gunny on this one.

Sappersis
03-20-2008, 02:32 PM
Nap D. made me ill, waste of money IMO

Yossarian
03-20-2008, 04:33 PM
speaking of Napoleon Dynaminte

see Hot Rod, it's a FUNNY Napoleon Dynamite with Andy Samberg (SNL Digital Shorts Guy)

cheesy, but in a good way

Creeping-Cruds
03-20-2008, 04:52 PM
The Vince Young scene from Napoleon Dynamite was pretty funny..

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/vinceyoung.gif

Hoffa
03-20-2008, 06:08 PM
Ha I just can't imagine JK Simmons and "feel good moments" in the same sentence.

He was hilarious in "The Lady Killers"

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/the_ladykillers/_group_photos/j__k__simmons7.jpg

Deuce Wayne
03-21-2008, 04:44 PM
speaking of Napoleon Dynaminte

see Hot Rod, it's a FUNNY Napoleon Dynamite with Andy Samberg (SNL Digital Shorts Guy)

cheesy, but in a good way
Hot Rod is the funniest movie I've seen in a long time. Every scene is hilarious. I was very shocked, because I was expecting it to be lame.
And while on the topic - Rico from Hot Rod has a new movie coming out:

www.thefootfistway.com

"Hi, my name is Rico, and...I like to party."

Creeping-Cruds
03-21-2008, 11:49 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/ctandsara/AlSwearingen.jpg
Ian Mcshane as the nutty disapproving, weak hearted, wrasslin step dad - awesome...

http://www.aolcdn.com/pmms/productpagemovies/07/02/2444299

Yossarian
03-22-2008, 12:53 AM
this was one of my favorite parts

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Yossarian
03-22-2008, 12:57 AM
Hot Rod is the funniest movie I've seen in a long time. Every scene is hilarious. I was very shocked, because I was expecting it to be lame.
And while on the topic - Rico from Hot Rod has a new movie coming out:

www.thefootfistway.com

"Hi, my name is Rico, and...I like to party."


the "she still alive" quip at the end was funny

wonder how many Karate Kid references they'll have/make

Deuce Wayne
03-23-2008, 07:46 PM
the cool beans song was one of my least fave parts. I mean, it was ok. Just not funny. Then again, i guess it was supposed to be filler.

Yossarian
03-24-2008, 01:48 AM
it was the randomness of the scene that got me...

one of those "stop thinking" moments if you will...

...although the entire movie could probably be summed up by the same words