With storms in the area, it's closed to the public.

NCP report:
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=61783

Kearse out still. Not a good sign.

I seriously doubt there's a problem w/ Kearse. They're just be overly cautious on the verge of paranoid and w/ his injury history, I can't blame them. Everyone wants to see this DL in the regular season.

That's a really bad sign for BMW if Chris Davis is ahead of him. IMO, Davis gets cut without a doubt.

The Tennessean report:
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080730/SPORTS01/80730086/1027

Posted by ESPN.com's Paul Kuharsky
NASHVILLE - Notes from the Titans practice this afternoon, which started in the bubble after a storm with violent winds blew threw and threatened to take a few radio tents and a souvenir stand airborne, but moved outside after it cleared up.
--Highlights and lowlights of pass rush one-on-ones:
Defense - Tackle Antonio Johnson showed good power on a couple rushes, backing guard Jake Scott into the quarterback with good power on one snap... Tackle Albert Haynesworth flew by guard Eugene Amano with a quick move at the line... End Sean Conover didn't have a very good period, drawing the ire of D-line coach Jim Washburn for his indecisiveness on one rush against tackle Mike Otto... End Jevon Kearse was out of practice as he's a bit banged up.
Offense: Though they gave up some ground, tackle David Stewart and Scott did well to stop rookie duo of tackle Jason Jones and end William Hayes on one combination rush... Guard Leroy Harris had a couple good snaps, handling a spin move by Jones and depositing Barry Booker on the ground... Undrafted rookie center Eric Scott delayed Hayes long enough to draw praise from veteran center Kevin Mawae for "making it take all day for him to get there."
Other stuff I noticed:
A good trend?: Vince Young has throw a couple darts after evading a rush running hard to his left, against his arm. They seems a testament to the improved footwork we've heard so much about. Perhaps the Titans will do some of it by design -- the plays I noticed may have been drawn up to send him that way -- as defenses don't expect such things to happen naturally. On one such play, Young looped around end David Ball and gunned a pass to Justin Gage on the left sideline as cornerback Reynaldo Hill and safety Donnie Nickey collided in front of him.
Drawing ire: Offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger has joked a bit that he thinks his temper and volume from his first term in the job were overblown by people like me. He's been relatively quiet in the two days I've been here, which made his dress down of second-year receiver Paul Williams for lining up wrong on a play really stand out. The offense had to rehuddle.
Not concerned: Young slipped on the wet turf on a drop back and was holding his left hamstring afterward. He finished the period, but was pulled for the remainder of practice. Fisher said it was not a big deal.
Not giving it up: Fisher and others refused to reveal LenDale White's official weight. I think he looks thinner than he has, but still not as thin as he could be. The running back was within the acceptable range, Fisher said, White "did the best in the conditioning test that he's done since he's been here."
Right guard: Amano's worked exclusively as the starting right guard, but Fisher said the job will flip to Harris in a few days. It's the only starting job outside of the kick and punt returner that's "officially" open for competition, though it will be a big surprise if Amano doesn't win based on experience.
Blitzer?: Linebacker Keith Bulluck hasn't been asked to blitz a lot in his career. Could that be changing? I saw him rush from the edge at least once, two practices in a row.
Two sets of eyes are better than one. For another take on practice, here's Jim Wyatt's report (http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080730/SPORTS01/80730086/1027). (We worked together at The Tennessean for nine seasons.)


More... (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/0-2-119/Notes-and-thoughts-from-Titans-practice.html)

Huh, didn't know Roos was from Estonia. Learn something new everyday I suppose.

I've always thought Bulluck should blitz more. Smart move but very very late.

Daily podcast from camp with Mike Keith & Jonathan Hutton

http://www.titansradio.com/audio08/podcast730.mp3

On one such play, Young looped around end David Ball and gunned a pass to Justin Gage on the left sideline as cornerback Reynaldo Hill and safety Donnie Nickey collided in front of him.

why doesn't that surprise me?

I've always thought Bulluck should blitz more. Smart move but very very late.



Dher Schwartzie abstains from blitzing, preferring the death of 1,00 cuts Zone D instead.

as for the Zone Blitz
http://www.seoconsultants.com/links/images/staff/our-motto-2x.jpg

Young still sucking and fakes an injury after falling? Still same ol' Vince. lol
It kills me that he can't make even short passes. How can you play QB in college and not hit a receiver for 10 yards during a camp session?

Kearse looks like he probably wont play this season, at this rate. Career is probably over. A foot one day, the knee the next? He's probably just at the point where checking the mail would be a difficult task to do safely.

Young still sucking and fakes an injury after falling? Still same ol' Vince. lol
It kills me that he can't make even short passes. How can you play QB in college and not hit a receiver for 10 yards during a camp session?

Kearse looks like he probably wont play this season, at this rate. Career is probably over. A foot one day, the knee the next? He's probably just at the point where checking the mail would be a difficult task to do safely.

So positive..........must be non stop sunshine hanging out with you all day.:moon2:

Dher Schwartzie abstains from blitzing, preferring the death of 1,00 cuts Zone D instead.

as for the Zone Blitz
http://www.seoconsultants.com/links/images/staff/our-motto-2x.jpg
Actually, with the pass rush we mounted last year, we don't really need many blitzes. Smarter to let the LBs play the pass and the DLs rush the QB.

Gloat's the destroyer of all hopes and dreams.

From TitansRadio:
http://www.titansradio.com/cgi-bin/blurb_view.cgi?blurb=news618120

I'm pissed. I drove 100 miles to get there thinking they would come out after as the rain cleared. I got there and they said they were coming out later but that the practice was closed to the public. I don't really care about the autograph thing (although my son does) but I really wanted to see some things with my own eyes.

So, I was stuck shopping with my wife for several hours and then had to drive 100 miles back home. :doh: :wall: :hang:

Gloat's the destroyer of all hopes and dreams.

Hey, I do my best. Gotta keep us pessimistic. Gives us something to get excited about if Vince does well.

all the report says was that it appeared vince tweaked his knee. It did not say vince grimaced in pain or he asked to come out of practice yet gloat makes it seem he was carried off on a stretcher. It talks about him making a couple nice throws but also a couple bad ones (none of which were picked it seems) all this while being done in very wet conditions. Vince just has no chance this season with him looking like this i guess.

It actually says he made a few good throws and many bad ones. That's the way it's been so far in camp. Which would be ok - if we had any faith in him throwing previously, but we don't. It's just camp, but most of us would like to see a bit of improvement going in to his 3rd year. It's not happening yet.

There's plenty of time, and most players are rusty, but not being able to make the simplest of throws? It's not looking good. He's just not a quarterback. He never was, and probably never will be. We drafted a "winner" that has had his crown knocked off. Now, he's just an athlete that should probably be trying to make the team as a wide receiver, but we hope and pray that he'll be able to just manage the offense under center, and not lose games for us.

It actually said he nice some nice throws, but remained inconsistent.

Gloat- your over the top on this one. It is a bit early in TC for such dramatic metaphors and similes. He is going against what appears to be an upper level Defense in the league- working a new system. Dinger is "feeling" out Vince for what he can do with him. I'm sure VY's regular season productivity will be a little better than what is being reported.

Also- I'd like to see for myself. I don't know who is and how they are rating the "inconsistency". Receptions, bad throws, bad routes, INT's (which are directly D related also) etc. I am concerned about Vince's mechanics and have been since day one. I'd like for somebody to critique differences between his footwork this year and last because that is what Dinger supposedly worked on during the off-season. That would give me an indicator of how effective the Dinger/Young combo might be for improvement. [I was hoping to do that yesterday but I bought some kind of designer lunchboxes for my daughters instead. :doh:]

All I know is that I haven't heard anything bad about the WRs yet, so it must be Vince?

All I know is that I haven't heard anything bad about the WRs yet, so it must be Vince?
I don't know if that is the case at all.

With Young checking down as much as he has, I was beginning to wonder if the WRs were getting the separation they should. I watched whoever lined up outside a few snaps during 11-on-11 on Tuesday and I didn't see much separation at times. Other times, I thought there was enough but Young didn't pull the trigger. Collins tends to take a shot more often though I don't know if he's had any more overall success on the deep receptions than Young has.

I'm hoping the lack of separation is due to good coverage and not the inability of the WRs. The Rams work next week should shed more light on that.

We missed the playoffs by the hair of gloat's arse in Vinces first year and then made the playoffs last year and had a great chance at winning the San Diego game if Chris Brown could hold onto the ball.

Vince is fine. Is he a prolific passer no. But he wins that all that matters and he is only going to get better maybe not much better but when you are all ready taking a team to the playoffs how much better do you need to get.

And don't give me the defense got us there. Year before our defense was atrocious and we just missed the playoffs.

I don't know if that is the case at all.

With Young checking down as much as he has, I was beginning to wonder if the WRs were getting the separation they should. I watched whoever lined up outside a few snaps during 11-on-11 on Tuesday and I didn't see much separation at times. Other times, I thought there was enough but Young didn't pull the trigger. Collins tends to take a shot more often though I don't know if he's had any more overall success on the deep receptions than Young has.

I'm hoping the lack of separation is due to good coverage and not the inability of the WRs. The Rams work next week should shed more light on that.


This is the NFL, there aren't going to be wide open WRs like there was in college anymore.:grrr: You still have to make the damn throws, you can't just check down all the time. If you can't lead a WR at this point in your career, you aren't going to make it. I don't think Vince can stand in the pocket and just let it rip and lead a reciever into a route. That is footwork, timing, mechanics, the tools you don't learn running the spread option, just being a QB. Again, I don't think the WRs are the problem, niether does Fisher or Dinger obviously with their actions. Kerry Collins seemed to throw just fine to these guys in the games he played in, they didn't look like the same scrubs.

This is the NFL, there aren't going to be wide open WRs like there was in college anymore.:grrr: You still have to make the damn throws, you can't just check down all the time. If you can't lead a WR at this point in your career, you aren't going to make it.
He's in the first week of training camp in his third season learning a new offense. I'm seeing improvement. He'll be fine.

Kerry Collins seemed to throw just fine to these guys in the games he played in, they didn't look like the same scrubs.

Jwill your comments are laughable. If we bought into your model, we would be in rebuilding mode every year. Stick Collins in he going to make a big difference. Yeah right.

You and the Gloat must be shacking up together.

It is true that we can't expect a huge amount of seperation by the WRs, whoever they are and NFL QBs have to be able to thread the needle and make tough throws at times. Also, one of the reasons VY is holding the ball so long is because he is afraid to make a tight throw because often when he does it gets picked. I'm convinced they need to roll him out more where he can see better and get away with just throwing a rocket. When he is in the pocket he doesn't like throwing over guys and isn't good at putting touch on the ball although I do think he is getting better. Heck the last two years he didn't even throw the ball well rolling out but with his improved footwork where he is keeping his weight more under him he is throwing with more accuracy.

Bottom line IMO is VY has to have the ability to make big plays with his legs or he really isn't any better, maybe worse, than Collins. That is just the way it is.

By the way John McClain said that when Dinger was asked about Cutler's progress and how he thinks Cutler is going to do in the league Dinger said Cutler is going to be just below Brady and Manning this year and has a chance to be that kind of league in his career.

And career in this league. ;)

That's high praise from Dinger.

Why bring up that we made the playoffs with vince as if he helped us get there? The defense had to carry him, and he was the weakest link on the team. Saying we made the playoffs with him means nothing. We made the playoffs with mediocre receivers also, but it doesnt mean we should keep them the same.

Again - I said it was early. I said he's probably rusty. But if you think he's going to turn it around and be a good QB, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. It's one thing to be rusty on throws down field, but when you struggle to hit wide open running backs on 5-10 yard passes...uhhh...

Got to hand it to gloat every time you think he has topped himself with the most ridiculous comment yet he tops it. Gloat always improving!

Funny how we were 8-5 in 06 with vince starting and our defense that year was last in the league. How could we have the worst QB, the worst WRs, the worst OC and the worst defense and still win 8 out of 13 games? A real head scratcher there.

As far as kearse is concerned i really don't care about his status. Personally i would rather see the kids play. Imagine ford and hayes alternating series 50-50. That's some serious speed coming off the corner speed kearse no longer has. If AH is out and we are struggling against the run we can move jones outside on some downs and johnson in at right DT.

Funny how we were 8-5 in 06 with vince starting and our defense that year was last in the league. How could we have the worst QB, the worst WRs, the worst OC and the worst defense and still win 8 out of 13 games? A real head scratcher there.
Chow.

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