Calling My Shot

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by XO, Dec 13, 2014.

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  1. XO

    XO Nevada Native

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    Oh come on.

    You are the Mel Kiper of goTitans.
     
  2. 520

    520 2020 GOAT CHAMP from 3-7 to champ

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    Hes corrupting that poor lil white kid
     
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  3. Scarecrow

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    Agreed

    There is likely not a franchise qb in this draft.
     
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  4. 8and8

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    Winston's been turnover prone this year but he is a better QB than Mariota. I don't know that either is a franchise QB though.

    The year before Locker came out he was thought to be the sure first pick of the NFL draft. Did anyone really think Sam Bradford was going to be a franchise QB? Jamarcus Russell, Tim Tebow, Blaine Gabbart, Matt Leinart, Josh Freeman, VY, and several other busts were all recent first rounders. I know nothing is a sure thing in the draft but those teams past up people like JJ Watt, Calvin Johnson, Suh, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, and a lot of other successful players.

    Too many QBs are way over hyped coming out of college and get picked too early in the draft because it is such a hard position to be successful at in the NFL. Teams that need a QB will always reach on potential that ends up not panning out most of the time.
     
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  5. Scarecrow

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    It's not even passing on other players, it's also time you have to dedicate to them. They are going to get, at minimum, 3 years. That is a long time to dedicate to someone that may not help when you any games.
     
  6. The Playmaker

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    Okay for the record before I start, I don't hate FSU. I do know some FSU fans that annoy the crap out of me over the respect card and SEC bias and thinking Jameis is actually just an angel that ESPN is trying to corrupt. So I may have some extra feels on this guy but I'm pretty grounded when it comes to my evaluation of him. That being said...

    -FSU is the only school in the ACC that's pulling talent. They're in a recruiting hotbed, big name, big recruiters on the staff, and have had recent success that kids want to come in and build on. It would be like if Alabama was in the ACC, FSU shouldn't and doesn't have a loss. Yet, no one is really impressed with it outside of maybe 2 games because they play schools like Boston College every week (generally speaking). So the all he does is win argument is total crap. If anything this year, he's being bailed out by horrible conference play and the ball bouncing to their side. Jameis is a talent, don't get me wrong. However, we really don't need to pull out the Tebow argument.

    -"I'm not condoning stealing but you win games" you are literally condoning it with that statement. Where did you play your college ball? Because I highly doubt it was at a top program like FSU. They live like kings on that campus. Have you been on a big college campus lately? The whole kids only eat noodles stereotype is so dead now a days. Maybe at smaller schools it's a bit rougher but at FSU Jameis doesn't have to steal crab legs to survive, give me a break. The problem with FSU and that campus is that there is no accountability. Shoot bb guns? No problem. Hit and run? No problem. Using publix as your kitchen? No problem, until someone else decided to bust you. Guarantee more will come out on him and some of the other players once they're off to the NFL.

    -"If he was white". Nice race card use. Ask everyone on here how they feel about Johnny Manziel. Oh and he hasn't been accused of rape...he just parties a lot.

    I don't like Jameis, have a really bad feeling about the guy. He hasn't really progressed much as a player this year and there seems to be more risk than reward for this guy. I know the FSU fans on here will always defend him and want him but he could actually kill this franchise.
     
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  7. The Playmaker

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    Cody Kessler anyone? Pro style offense, putting up impressive stats, good arm and decision making, and we could snag him in the 2nd round hopefully.
     
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  8. Gut

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    The point about the bad record for Mett...like Peyton and other rookie QB's surrounded by BAD talent is you won't win much...even WITH Peyton Manning! Mett is not surrounded by superior talent and that is the biggest problem!

    Take a QB round 1 and you better have a plan for a good OL and another good to great WR! Of Course, that doesn't fix the D...

    Not competitive in any game? Didn't we lose to the Steelers 27-24? NOT competitive???
     
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  9. Gut

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    Sp take a franchise QB and still start Mett while developing? So, we can enjoy that talent in another 3 years? How many fans will show up in the mean time? if you are gonna have to start Matt anyway and there is no Andrew Luck in this class, trade down and get a boatload of picks to rebuild the TEAM. It's hard to even evaluate Mett based on the pressure he's been under and us being down by so many points so early on.

    How about a worst case where our team is better, plays better, is competitive in most games, we win more games, but decide Mett isn't the answer and the trade up to get a new starter in year 2 or 3. If we draft a bust at QB with the first overall pick this franchise will be trying it again in year 3 or 4 or 5....and STILL not have a team around the new guy. We want a QB to be surrounded by talent when he has to play, not behind a line that can't block. Just ask David Carr!

    Best case is we hit on the QB but won't know it because our OL is so bad he gets pummelled into the ground or we let Mett take a beating while our franchise QB develops on the bench. But since Mett is a statue, expect him to get knocked out and then you can get your franchise QB beat up or let Whitehurst play surrounded by the same team. Im sure that will energize the fan base!

    Not even close. You wanna match up stealing a comp with stealing some food, fine. But Winston alledgedly RAPED someone...HUGE difference!

    And ON THE Field not comparable!!! How many TD's vs INT's did Newton have? 50 to 7. Winston has 27 to 17. How many times did Newton throw 3-4 INT's in a game? NEVER! Winston's done it 2 times. Newton has only thrown 2 INT's once in his career. Winston has done it 5 times in 12 games this year!

    Mariotta and Newton are more similar. Winston isn't close!!!
     
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  10. Gut

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    It's a bit comical that you say you are not condoning stealing...and then you do! And justify it! You want to ignore facts and claim he's Mother Theresa off the field, believe what you want.

    But ON the field they are winning WITH him, not BECAUSE of him. Several of his games claiming he won the game for them is like saying Trent Dilfer was the reason the ravens won the SB. Sure he made a few plays, but they carried him. Now they haven't carried Winston all season, but they have in a handful of games out of 12 and that's not good. It's also not good that he has struggled versus the better college defenses and when pressured has responded poorly with bad throws and bad decisions. He has an NFL caliber OL, NFL caliber WR's and rb's. And he has a defense that also is pretty awesome in the 2nd half.

    Do WE have those things to surround him? NO! If we were the Texans, yes you can take a chance on him because they have a good OL, an excellent run game and a great D. We need a better team or Winston and every other QB will be at their worst and that's a bad place to put a rookie QB.

    And Winston hasn't been finishing that well. In his last 3 games he has 6 TD's and 5 INT's. Is that elite? I DON'T expect Winston to win it all unless they can face Ohio State and their 3rd string QB. They match up well with Oregon in that they have a good DL and Oregon's OL is a shambles.
     
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