Calling My Shot

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by XO, Dec 13, 2014.

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    I just finished watching some games on Winston. My opinion from what I saw.

    Positives: Strong arm. Good pocket awareness. Strong body, very difficult to bring down. Short accuracy. Seems to be good leader.

    Average: Medium accuracy.

    Negatives: Off field concerns. Starts games slow. Footwork within pocket definitely needs improvement. Rarely steps into throws. Inconsistent release point.

    Still need more to judge his long accuracy. Hard to tell if he actually follows his progressions.

    TL;DR: Roethlisberger clone, but he really needs to work on his ability to step up in pocket.
     
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  2. nytitaner

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    its no use debating in my opinion, there's two options right now, draft him or move down. period. WE SUCK YAMS
     
  3. DaCost

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    I get the off the field issues and the possible low IQ...but this guy is the best on the field player in the draft we have to give a chance.
     
  4. TitanTime

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    I think we have to go QB, Winston in particular. Gregory and Williams will be good players, no doubt. But the Texans have the best defensive player of the last decade, and that still wasn't enough to get a playoff spot. Why? Because to make the playoffs you have to have consistent good-great QB play. Now if you think Mett can do that that's fine, but I personally don't. QB in the first, OLB in the second (Mauldin, Dupree).
     
  5. TitanTime

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    And for those who say take defense at #2, and draft a QB next year. What QB's do you think will be there? Hundley, Cook, etc? No thanks, none of them can touch Winston or even Mariota. There's a reason they're leaning toward staying in school. And there are also good defensive players available in nearly every draft. Franchise QB's? Not so much.
     
  6. Wolverine

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    Connor Cook
    Christian Hackenberg
    Gunner Kiel
    Jared Goff

    All typical drop back passers.
     
  7. lilkhmerkid4u

    lilkhmerkid4u Somebody Saveeeeeee Meee!

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    We'll draft Winston. There is an auro around him. and Tommy wants the Titans back on the map. We'll be the team everyone will be talking about heading into the preseason....just got to hope he doesn't do somethign retarded and end up in jail
     
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  9. GoT

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    how did the rapist have a trial without being charged?
     
  10. MaxFischer

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    Seen some talk on Winston but haven’t seen much in the way of a statistical analysis of his sophomore year. The TL/DR version: Jameis Winson will be a bust. Forget the draft analysts talking about arm strength – there’s been hundreds of strong-armed QBs who have been poor NFL quarterbacks. Forget the claims that he’s a winner – plenty of winning college QBs sucked in the NFL. (And I’m not even considering the character issues here.)


    The key thing to look at in a college QB prospect is his performance against good competition. This is a great metric for predicting NFL performance. For these purposes, we won’t consider Winston’s games against Citadel and Syracuse. Those teams were awful (they went 5-7 and 3-9, respectively) and any decent college QB could put up good numbers against them.


    Instead, we’ll look at his games against the following bowl teams: Oklahoma State, NC State, Notre Dame, Louisville, Miami, Boston College, Florida, and GA Tech.



    @Oklahoma State: 25/40 for 370 yards (62.5%), 1 TD and 2 INTs.



    @NC State: 26/38 for 365 yards (68.4%), 4 TDs and 2 INTs.



    Notre Dame: 23/31 for 273 yards (74.2%), 2 TDs and 1 INT.



    @Louisville: 25/48 for 401 yards (52.1%) , 3 TDs and 3 INTs.



    @Miami (FL): 25/42 for 304 yards (59.5%), 1 TD and 1 INT.



    Boston College: 22/32 for 281 yards (68.8%), 1 TD and 1 INT.



    Florida: 12/24 for 125 yards (50%), 2 TDs and 4 INTs.



    @ GA Tech: 21/30 for 309 (70%), 3 TDS and 0 INTs.



    Totals: 179/285 for 2,428 yards, 17 TDs and 14 INTs.



    Average of these 8 games: 22.4/35.6 (63%) for 303.5 yards (8.5 YPA) with 2.1 TDs and 1.75 INTs.



    Against good competition, Winston has an almost 1:1 TD to INT ration. He threw multiple INTs in 4 of those 8 games (50%), and 14 INTs in those 8 games in total. To put this into perspective Andrew Luck had 3 multiple INT game in his entire 3 years at Stanford. Russell Wilson threw 4 INTs in his senior season. Cam Newton had 7 INTs in his last (and only) season at Auburn. Hell, Andy Dalton had 6 INTs total in his last year at TCU.



    But here’s the teaser: Vince Young threw for 25 TDs / 10 INTs in his last year at Texas. This year, in total, Winston has thrown for 24 TDs and 17 INTs.



    Now, you might say that Jameis is young and would only improve. Maybe, but that’s unsupported by the evidence. He has regressed since his freshman year. He’s less accurate than Vince Young and way less accurate (and more careless with the ball) than most any NFL qbs of note. He’s a wasted pick and not as talented as you’ve been told. He’s a healthier Jake Locker with an attitude problem. Anyone who drafts him in the first 2 rounds should be fired.
     
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