Trading #2

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by xpmar9x, Dec 28, 2014.

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  1. Two Kings

    Two Kings NJ Titan

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    Never say never, man. They dealt Richardson to the Colts. If they move up and grabbed Moriata and dealt Manziel to a team like Eagles or someone who thinks they can work with him then kudos to them. They would look smart.
     
  2. kenny

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    Ray Farmer & Haslet(Think that's the Owner's name) have both this wek had very negative comments about Manziel to the media. You don't make comments like they made on the record and expect the guy you just put down to be your Franchise QB. Former Browns OC (KS) & Several other Browns FO staff came out this week admitting that Manziel's rookie season was "An Absolute JOKE". One even went on to comment that the missed appointment for treatment was due to him being "drunk off his butt when Brown's security staff found him"

    Not to mention that even the owner said that Manziel was "More than disappointing in pre season & regular season chances he got."

    I do not think there is any doubt the Browns hoped they could put reigns on his lifestyle & have found out that he is just not grown up enough to be an NFL level QB. He may be later, but they want to get back to the playoffs. They are not doing it with his attitude, work ethic, and horrible play.

    This is a team that traded Richardson, fired a HC & GM after 1 year. Do not think for a minute they will not give up on a guy that has not shown any type of reason to think he can play NFL football.
     
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  3. xpmar9x

    xpmar9x The Real Slim Shady

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    They could offer up #12 & #19 then their 2nd (#43) & '16 2nd. That's two firsts & two seconds to move up to #2, pretty fair on the trade value chart.

    #12: Dante Fowler, OLB, Florida
    #19: Danny Shelton, NT, Washington
    #33: Cameron Irving, OT, Florida St
    #43: Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia
    #66: Jalen Collins, CB, LSU
    #97: Best WR, OL, or OLB available

    This leaves us with 6 players in the Top-100, that's how you rebuild. I'm just not sold that the Browns are already giving up on Manziel. If they are, send us an offer!
     
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  4. Gut

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    Agreed. He played like a first rndr considering we already knew he was good against the run and now he shows great penetration? Hard to see the interview process dropping him that much considering the position he plays and how well he plays it. Heck, I don't love Leonard Williams attitude and lackadaisical play at times, but he's too good of a talent to pass up if there is no King's ransom offered.

    I think someone could take him in rnd 1 but he could be there at the beginning of rnd 2 and maybe even the beginning of rnd 3....course, if his agent is smart he'll get Ferentz to sing his praises!!!
     
  5. Gut

    Gut Pro Bowler

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    Shockwaves would go off if they in effect dumped Manziel that fast! That being said, they don't have too many great options. Value-wise, they'd have to give us both first rnd picks, their 2nd and a 4th to trade up to our #2 pick. I would do that! I don't think Cleveland would. I think more likely, if they are going for a spread type system, they'd try to get RG3 or see what the Niners are doing with Kap.
     
  6. Gut

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    I think LW is the most talented player in the draft, but I would trade out for a King's Ransom. 4 players, 3 of whom could be Pro Bowl caliber players are worth 1 guy who should be a perennial Pro Bowler. Of course, the downside is who is making the selections are I don't have confidence in Webster to make the best picks....so maybe LW would be better if we blow half those picks. But if I were GM, I'd make the trade....and trade down again!
     
  7. Two Kings

    Two Kings NJ Titan

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    A source tells NJ.com that the Rams have interest in Nick Foles if the Eagles decide to trade him this offseason.

    Foles is 14-4 as a starter over the last two seasons, but there's plenty of reason to believe he is not Chip Kelly's guy for the long haul. Kelly inherited Foles, he prefers a mobile quarterback, Foles regressed sharply as a thrower in Year 2 and the Eagles could be plotting a move up in the draft for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota. According to NJ.com, the QB-desperate Titans and Texans would also have interest in Foles, who has one year remaining on his rookie contract. The Rams have already said Sam Bradford (ACL surgery) will face competition in training camp.
    Related: Texans, Rams, Titans, Marcus Mariota

    Source: NJ.com
    Jan 26 - 10:36 AM
     
  8. JR1980

    JR1980 Pro Bowler

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    Bradford is done there....No question that the Rams will replace him, competition or not.
     
  9. Gut

    Gut Pro Bowler

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    Man, if the Eagles were able to swap 1st rnd picks with the Rams for Nick Foles, we'd be in a fantastic position because we could trade back with either QB available!!!
     
  10. RTH

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    I don't know... it's just a feeling, but trade value just seems less and less as we get closer.
     
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