Mariota Could Be Just As Good Or Better Than Newton And Wilson (Been In Last 3 SB)

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  1. mike75

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    Back in 2015 when Mariota was drafted he was being touted as the best QB to come out since Andrew Luck was drafted almost a half decade prior.

    Tennessee did get lucky because after many years in limbo due to two straight failed attempts with Young/Locker they finally got it right picking the best QB to lead the franchise.

    In his rookie year Mariota completed 230 of 370 throws,64% completed,close to 3,000 yards,19TD and 10INT with 91.5 pass rating. He also ran 34 times for 252 yards averaging 7 yards a run. His longest run was 87 yards one of the longest ever for a QB as well as one of the longest of the year.

    Since 2011/2012 when Cam Newton and Russell Wilson were drafted both of their respective teams have relied heavily on a good defense along with a stout run game.

    The last three Super Bowls have featured either Wilson or Newton.

    In regards to Cam Newton his first two years the Panthers were 6-10 his rookie year and improved to 7-9 in year two. The offense was ranked 7th and 12th with the rushing being the main objective. Pass offense ranked 13th and 16th. The defense was terrible 28th and then jumped to 10th second year. Rookie season he threw 21TD/17INT completing 60% of passes. Year two he threw 19TD/12INT and completed 57% of his throws.

    In 2013 Newton's third as starter the team went 12-4. The main reason was the team had the second best defense in the NFL. Whats really troubling is the team did great in spite of the offense which ranked 26th. Near last in passing but they always were around the top ten in running the ball. Newton threw for 24TD/13INT while completing 61% of his throws.

    For 2014 his fourth year the team went 7-8-1 and somehow managed to win their division. The defense managed to rank 10th but was 21st in points allowed. Offense ranked 16th with pass offense ranked 19th but the bread and butter of the offense the run game ranked 7th. Newton threw for 18TD/12INT completing 58% of his passes.

    For 2015 his fifth and most recent season the team went 15-1 and made it to the Super Bowl. The defense ranked 6th in both total and points allowed. The offense was ranked 11th with the pass offense 24th while the rushing attack was 2nd. The team was ranked 1st in points scored and this continued in the postseason with them scoring 49 and 31 points.

    For his career Newton has thrown for 117TD and 64INT completing 59% of his passes. He has thrown for 18,263 yards averaging about 3,600 yards thrown a season and has a 88.3 pass rating. For his career he has ran for 3,200 yards on 600 runs averaging over 5 yards per carry. He has run for 43 TD's.

    In Newton's first five years the run offense was ranked 3rd,9th,10th,7th and 2nd.

    The pass offense ranked 13th,16th,29th,16th and 24th. Newton has never really been in a big passing offense where that mattered most.

    The defense was terrible in his first year but the last four years the team has had a top ten defense. Also the team seemed to consistently have a great run game every year.

    Also Russell Wilson he depended heavily on a defense that ranked number one in points allowed every season and top five in total defense.

    Also on the running of Marshawn Lynch who led the offense to a 3rd in '12, 4th in '13, 1st in '14 and in 2015 3rd ranking in rush offense those years.

    Meanwhile the pass offense ranked 27th in '12, 26th in '13, 27th in '14 and finally 20th in 2015.

    Tennessee could build a good defense and running game and the team could go far doing that with Mariota just like Carolina did with Newton and Seattle with Wilson.

    The Panthers have drafted defense early like Luke Kuechly in the first. Josh Norman was a great pick in the 5th. In 2013 Star Lotulelei in the first,Kawann Short in the second and AJ Klein in the fifth. In 2014 Kony Ealy in first,Tre Boston in fourth,Bene Benwikere in the fifth and 2015 in the first Shaq Thompson and David Mayo in fifth.

    This team needs to draft defensive playmakers early and more often in the draft.Webster screwed up big time neglecting the defense drafting offensive linemen and wide receivers.

    There is no reason why this team can't go far if they get the right players and develop a good enough strategy to compete. The team needs an identity so why not try something similar to what Carolina and Seattle is doing. GM Jon Robinson can build a good defense around Casey but to compete in the AFC South especially against Luck and Bortles we have to have a really good secondary also. This means getting rid of BBW,Sensabaugh,etc.

    We don't need to overpay for WR's Mariota could win with dependable receivers like Brady did for many years in New England with Givens,Branch and Brown. I do think it would help to have a good running game and if we had to get one slam dunk free agent that could change things i think it should be Lamar Miller he has begged to be used more in Miami and has around 5 yards a carry.




    Marcus Mariota Records Set 2015 Season



    QB Marcus Mariota is first player NFL history with 250+ pass yds, 100+ rush yds & 3 TD passes in a game in Titans 42-39 win over Jax at home in week 13.


    Mariota had 4 games with 3+ TD passes, tied Peyton Manning for most ever by rookie QB.


    Mariota's 87-yard touchdown run against was the longest run in the NFL in 2015.


    Mariota's 87 yard run is the second-longest run by an NFL quarterback in NFL history.


    Marcus Mariota at one point was best in NFL in QB red-zone rating with 16TD thrown and 0INT. QB rating 115.7


    At one point only TWO quarterbacks in 2015 had 2 games with 4+ pass TDs and 0 INT and that was Tom Brady and Marcus Mariota.


    Marcus Mariota was 1st rookie in NFL history with 2 games with 4+ TD passes & 0 INTs in a season.


    Mariota tied the NFL record for most touchdown passes through his first three games. (8)


    First rookie in NFL History to throw a perfect game in his first game.


    Mariota's 367 passing yards against Indy broke the single-game franchise rookie record.


    Mariota holds Titans franchise rookie record for TDs in a single season.


    NFL Offensive Rookie of the Month (September 2015)


    NFL Rookie of the Week (Week 1, 2015)


    2× AFC Offensive Player of the Week (Weeks 1 & 9, 2015)


    Mariota and Titan's 28-point margin of victory with Wk 1 rookie starting QB was largest since 1948 (Bears' Johnny Lujack, 38). Both QBs won the Heisman.


    Mariota is one of only two rookie QB's in NFL history to throw 4 TD passes on kickoff weekend.


    Mariota is first rookie QB in NFL history to post a perfect 158.3 passer rating on Kickoff Weekend.


    Mariota is the youngest QB to throw 4 TDs in a game and the second rookie with a perfect rating, only one to do it on his 1st game.


    Prior to Marcus Mariota, the last player to record TDs of at least 40 yds passing, rushing & receiving in same season: Walter Payton in 1983


    Out of the top 25 games by a QB in 2016 Mariota had three of those games. No other QB in the league had that many accept Russell Wilson who also had three.
     
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  2. JCBRAVE

    JCBRAVE goTitans 2019 Survivor Champion

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    Youre talking to us like we weren't watching this entire time, but yea draft defensive playmakers.
     
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  3. mike75

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    I think it would help Mariota tremendously to build a better defense. If we can get the defense improved and get a really good RB in here like Lamar Miller in free agency or Ezekiel Elliott in the draft if we trade down those two things would be great for Mariota.

    Also notice how both Carolina/Seattle were among league leaders in rushing while both teams passing offenses are near the bottom of the league.

    I think Mariota with a better running game and defense like these guys could be lethal.
     
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  4. Mitch86

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    Imagine if he had a team around him...
     
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  5. JCBRAVE

    JCBRAVE goTitans 2019 Survivor Champion

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    Notice the CB's these Super Bowl competing teams have playing for them, if youre not strong on the backside your defense will crumble. Gotta fix our defensive backfield with the best DB in this draft. That would really allow the defense to function for a change, we cant keep letting scrubs like Sensabaugh and Wreh-Wilson step in and give up TD's..
     
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  6. GOFIGURETITANS

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    Yes!
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    We have ONE piece of the puzzle!
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  7. Titanic_Sub

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    wrong from ur first sentence fckn lol good one
     
  8. JCBRAVE

    JCBRAVE goTitans 2019 Survivor Champion

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    I liked the "almost a half decade" part, saying 3 years sounds so boring, but almost a half decade sounds like hes going to be a legend.
     
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  9. JCBRAVE

    JCBRAVE goTitans 2019 Survivor Champion

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    This thread needs some John Elway quotes.

    Link
     
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  10. JCBRAVE

    JCBRAVE goTitans 2019 Survivor Champion

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    QB - check
    LT - maybe
    LG - ?
    C - ?
    RG - maybe
    RT - ?
    TE - check
    WR1 - maybe
    WR2 - maybe
    RB1 - ?
    Rb2 - maybe
    FB - check

    DE - check
    NT - ?
    DE - maybe
    OLB - check
    ILB - check
    ILB - ?
    OLB - check
    CB1 - ?
    CB2 - check
    CB3 - check
    CB4 - ?
    CB - maybe

    K - check
    P - check
    PR/KR - ?

    all in all 9 glaring holes to fill, and 7 players we could easily upgrade.
    With just 7 draft picks we'll have to kill it in free agency in order to be a competitive team.....
     
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