Collins is not the problem people

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by dbc5631, Sep 30, 2009.

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  1. jessestylex

    jessestylex DeadGirlsCantSayNo

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    if we lose, it's going to be fun watching our QB drama unfold.
     
  2. lateknight

    lateknight Master Opinionist

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    See that's the thing- I truly believe if left to Jeff there will be no qb controversy. I think the only way we see VY is if Bud makes the call. I like Fisher and I like Vince but I get a funny feeling that the chemistry between the two is not there. I would not be surprised if only one of them is left in Tn after this season.
     
  3. TitansJonne

    TitansJonne OG triple OG

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    considering that fisher was on the hot seat in 06 and 2 seasons later, he has no playoff wins to show for it, my guess would be jeff is most likely gone. Love jeff, great guy. but in the end you gotta get some wins in january to be an upper echilon team. And we can't do that. We need a younger more open coach.
     
  4. davidsrobbins

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    I would put big money on it that both of the QB's aren't there next year. The only way is if they redo VY's contract for long term and drop his salary for next season. If they don't then Bud has to pay VY almost 15 million next year towards the cap and Kerry at least another 5 or more. That would mean Bud is paying more than any other team in the NFL next year for QB's. Wouldn't that be sweet, the Titans could get KFC/VY performance for Peyton/Brady prices if we don't do something!
     
  5. guitarjunkie

    guitarjunkie We're Screwed...

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    I don't know if I could take anymore. A Quarter of the amount on here the past couple weeks is enough to embarrass Hollywood. :shake:
     
  6. The_Jerr83

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    I don't think we see that happening. If anyone is gone it would be Kerry for the simple fact is that Bud Loves Vince and has told him he is the future of this franchise. Don't forget that Bud wanted Vince in that 2006 draft in the first place. I can also see Fisher gone soon. Probably when his contract expires. I wouldn't mind seeing Bill Cowher here. At least he has proven to win playoff games and the super bowl.
     
  7. tex-titan

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    This is my problem with this philosophy. I believe that if our offense did exactly the same thing that they did last year we would wind up losing 3-4 more games than we did last year simply because of the drop off in defense (I won't even touch the total collapse of special teams).

    It's a catch 22. KC doesn't have the ability to swim to shore but he can tread water all day long. Problem is neither one gets us out of the water.

    I would love to see Fisher play VY and open up the offense but I know that won't be without it's own difficulties. I just think it gets us moving in the right direction for next year.

    I just remember when Jimmy Johnson took 3 years building the Cowboys who went on to rule the 90's. I would be willing to trade 2 bad/learning years for 3 super bowl rings.
     
  8. Canadian Titan

    Canadian Titan VY & CJ = New SM & EG

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    Didn't Kerry Collins lead us to a 0-5 start a few years ago, and then VY came in and did his thing...I wonder if we are seeing the same thing, whether or not, the QB spot is our problem, Vince wins games!
     
  9. HeadOnASwivel

    HeadOnASwivel Pro Bowler

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    I agree, KC is not the problem with this team. He is a problem as far as the future is concerned, but not now. Drops are really hurting us and hurting his numbers, that is all on our receivers. It's cliche, but if the ball hits a pro receiver in both hands it should be caught.

    Watching the games, I think a lot of KC's incompletions are on the play calling and Dinger. Seriously, when teams bring the house over and over, our play calling needs to be adjusted. I'm not sure if that is on KC or Dinger, but seven step drops in the face of an all out blitz is completely stupid, but what's worse it has been happening over and over again.

    For those of you calling for VY to play due to KC's turnovers are crazy. VY is the human turnover machine, it's not like our turnover margin will get better if VY is the QB. Personally I think VY should play so we know, once and for all, if we make him our franchise QB or to address that situation in the draft. At 0-3, this season is over so why not get VY in there?
     
  10. dman050586

    dman050586 Starter

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    Here's the reason why I'm down on Kerry. You could blame it on the defense, but all three games we had a chance to win it in the 4 quarter. That's what a qb gets paid to do. Agaisnt the steelers I'll give him a break since u can blame on the mike for not caller better plays. Agaisnt the texans?? No he fumbled the ball.. And against the jets he threw the ball right to the defender. Why did he have sucess last year cuz he was asked to manage the game. This year unfortunetly he has to win it for us and I don't think he can do that for us. Keep in mind I don't think Vince can come in and perform better, but at least he is our "qb" of the future
     
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