Yeah, I'm aware audio snobs probably loathe them. Guess I was more just looking for opinions from people who are more knowledgeable than me on them. I'm not necessarily looking for the ultimate home theater experience or anything. I'm just looking for something with nice sound, and as cruds mentioned something where you can actually hear the dialogue without blowing out the windows when an action scene comes on. So you would say a 2.1 setup is significantly better than a soundbar + woofer?