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Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by thnom, Feb 1, 2006.

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  1. Soxcat

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    I guess all these guys look to be good prospects until we really get to see them play. The bottom line is we need to get more gems like Hill in the later rounds and alot fewer rocks like Nickey and Gardner if we want to get back to the SB anytime soon. Think of how much better we would be now if a few of those guys turned out to be as good for real as they looked to be.
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  2. Broken Record

    Broken Record Biscuit Eater Staff Member

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    That's an excellent and informative post.
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  3. TitanJeff

    TitanJeff Kahuna Grande Staff Member

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    I agree. But how often does a seventh-round guy even make the team? How often does a free agent you bring in at the minimum salary make the Pro Bowl? Reese deserves some credit here for a few gems. It helps offset the misses he's made.

    I wish someone would create a formula where each draft pick is evaluated after their third year. I'd like to see how Reese really stacks up vs the NFL.
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  4. RollTide

    RollTide All-Pro

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    Drafting for need only....you can't!

    You can never draft for need 100% of the time. You simply cannot. You can't be reaching 10-15 spots in a rd just because a guy plays a position of need. You have to stick to the integrity of your rating system. Every team has a big board where they rate the top 1-100 players. You can't be sitting there with the 35th pick grabbing a guy who is 49th on your board simply because he plays a position of need. That would be suicide.

    Obviously if the 2 best players on your board are a safety and defensive tackle you grab the safety if that is where the need is. Floyd reese has 11 drafts he can go back and look at and see what mistakes he made, what good players he passed up and the bad picks. He needs to draw on that experience.
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  5. RollTide

    RollTide All-Pro

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    Still want a QB with that 3rd pick?

    QBs taken in the top 5 picks 1990-2003

    1990-jeff george
    1991-none
    1992-none,David klingler taken with 6th pick
    1993-Bledsoe, rick mirer
    1994-Heath shuler(Best UT QB ever!:ha: )
    1995-Mcnair, kerry collins
    1996-none
    1997-None, jim drunkenmiller top QB taken
    1998-manning, leaf
    1999-Couch, mcnabb, akili smith,,,culpepper taken 6th
    2000-none
    2001-mike vick
    2002-David carr, joey harrington
    2003-Carson palmer

    I'm counting 15 in all taken in the first 5 picks. Only 5 are what i would call first rate. 5 more are decent to good. 5 are bonafide busts! Those are the odds we are up against.
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  6. Brian

    Brian Big Fan

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    This is not a good year for us to start the 3-year draft analysis.

    :boom:
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  7. Sly, Very Sly, but improvement... Can't ask for more when it took an awful lot to be subtle... graciously passing by :))
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  8. SEC 330 BIPOLAR

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    Good grief...
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  9. TitanJeff

    TitanJeff Kahuna Grande Staff Member

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    Agreed. But you also can't use a top pick on a position if the team is set with for the next few seasons. For example, you won't see the Titans use a high pick to draft someone to play behind Bulluck. There ar just too many holes elsewhere.

    And we need to keep in mind that Reese's "formula" may be impacted by scheme and other factors we don't know about such as some decisions he may be considering with personnel already on the team. For example, say the Titans really like Marcus Randall enough to think he can move up to the #2 SS position. That might deter taking a safety late in the draft and using it on an equal talent at another position.
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  10. Soxcat

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    First it is "Reese will take the BPA" and now it is you can't use a top pick on a postion the team is set with. The first player we pick in this draft needs to be a guy who is both a critical need for this team AND one of the BPA. If McNair wasn't near the end of his career and we didn't feel good about Roos at LT guess who we take? Also your example of Bulluck is interesting because we drafted Bulluck less out of need (the guy didn't start for two years) but he was obviously a BPA where we drafted him.
    Later in the draft you have to focus on BPA as much or more because you don't take a S that is lucky to be a special teamer (and trade up at that) while passing on a guy at a position you need less but is far more talented. A guy better than a Nickey or Garner could have been found in the UDFA group or a cheap vet. Sure we didn't spend alot for Nickey, he was only a 5th round pick but to actually trade up for the guy shows they really thought he was a player. Now he will be out of a job and Marcus Randall, an UDFA QB, will be taking his spot on the roster.
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