Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by Bulluck, Feb 15, 2007.
it is, you're right.
I'm just an idiot
it's all good, you were probably just focused on the article itself
there is one point right before 2 min that maybe it looks like he has some 4.3 speed
but in all fairness he does have a qb that cant throw worth crap so he was never hit in stride... so he always had to stop and then go
You almost NEVER see CJ 5 yards past a DB at any range. On almost all his patterns, the DB is within a step or 2.
From the end of the season, guys usually get a bit faster in there 40 because they almost all use trainers who specialize in 40 times (among other things). Most players who run 40's on campus agility tests simply get in a football stance and go. With proper training, they can shave some time off.
This is one of the reasons why some guys run faster (40) than you see them on the field. They can't use all the techniques for running a 40 IN the football game. Also, the 'long striders' usually can run pretty fast in a straightline but not on breaks (need to gather). So a Matt Jones doesn't look that fast on a field when he needs to make cuts. Let him put his hand down and run in a straightline and he's plenty fast. But he doesn't do that too much.
I'm surprised someone is 'hyping' CJ's speed. He's awesome for 2 main reasons. He's huge and has incredible hands. If he runs a 4.4 it'll be more than enough speed! I seriously doubt he runs in the 4.3's and I think the 4.4 range is hard enough for him. Consider I also expect Ginn to run in the 4.3 range, it's hard to imagine Ginn and CJ having a close 40 time.
Most players who are practicing 40's are timed on a handheld (some error). They are typically running on a slower track at Indy and being timed electronicly (though every scout will also time with their own hand timed stopwatch). It's one of the reasons every year you hear a guy (like Pac) say they'll run in the 4.2's (cause they're doing it in their workouts - on there track with a handheld) and end up running slower in Indy (he ran a 4.38-4.39).
Question is, would you trade way up to the 6th rnd for the next Andre Johnson (CJ's slower but better hands)?
lol no... especially when he wouldnt be used enough... we need another receiver like brandon jones, maybe a little taller and better hands, cause bj is pretty friggen fast, but i think tedd ginn will run in the 4.2 range
Bennett would leave Johnson in the dust, lets get real guys
I used to say Bennett had 4.5 speed, but a certain person named Bennett corrected me....he ran a 4.48 40.
I think CJ will run faster. Even if he doesn't, he can still be a good deep threat because he's tall, huge, and has amazing hands!
Speed is not the be all end all factor.
I was jus messing around, but Ne ways, i agree, just look at Ginn, hes all speeed, and I sure dont think hes gonna be good at the next level
i dont see the agility in ginn... granted i've only seen him oplay a few times and a few highlight videos... but its seems like every TD or big play is straight down the field... maybe a cut or two.... but i dont ever see him juking somebody out of their shoes or changing direction... its always straight and fast
calvin just ran a 4.38 at the combine.
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