Coughlin the league's best coach?

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  1. RollTide

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    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/05/nfl_coaches_rankings_tom_cough.html

    There are a lot of rankings like that.

    Amazing what talent will do for you right? Because after this guy got fired from the Jags nobody posting on this board back then would have hired him for a community college team.

    Maybe it was just a young coach developing? Yeah that's it from age 58 to 65 Coughlin learned how to coach. :sad2:

    Could it be a great front office feeding a good coach quality talent every year? Could it be a top 7 QB who has not missed a game in 7 seasons? That probably helps.

    We keep hearing how the game has changed and it has become a passing league. We hear terms like modern, progressive. So why are Coughlin and Belecheat at the top of the coaching rankings?
     
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    Well I am assuming Belicheat is at the top because he has video of the teams at practise and knows their signals...

    What's your point?
     
    #2 Gunny, Jun 4, 2012
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    According to Duece, Alex, Mike 75 and many others Jeff Fisher is a horrible coach who hates WRs. One of the worst coaches ever to put on the head phones.

    So how did Fisher own Coughlin then? Coughlin's best regular season record by far was with the 99 Jags, they were 14-2. They were loaded! 2 great WRs, great RB, good vet QB. They had the number 1 ranked defense i believe.

    Yet Fisher beat them 3 times!


    How does Fisher who is a horrible coach beat a hall of famer 3 times in one season like that? Could it be that Jeff fisher is as good a coach as Coughlin but just hasn't quite had the luck?

    What if Fisher had a top 10 QB who never missed a game for 7 seasons? What if Fisher always had his best WRs healthy for a playoff? Just wondering.
     
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    Fisher hasn't had quite the luck? He's had numerous playoffs teams and twice had the best record in the league and #1 seed.

    Once or twice might be bad luck but constantly it has nothing to do with luck.
     
    #4 Gunny, Jun 4, 2012
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    Gunny i know this is over your head but we played the 99 playoffs without our best WR in Thigpen and the 2000 playoffs without Thigpen and Dyson.

    The reason our Wrs were so pathetic in 2008 was because of injuries to people like Givens and Calico in the past.

    Of course it would not dawn on you that Mason who caught a TD pass against us in the 2008 playoffs would have been on our team had it not been for cap hell.

    What about QB? Was Kerry collins in 2008 the equal to Brady, Brees, Rogers, Roethlisberger or the Manning brothers?

    Sorry for the facts.


    Just do an alex and say i have a comprehension problem.
     
    #5 RollTide, Jun 4, 2012
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    Of course Fisher had nothing to do with those 3 13-3 teams and the 12-4 team. They were just gifts. He didn't start coaching until the playoffs.
     
    #6 RollTide, Jun 4, 2012
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    And i thought it had something to do with super bowls.
     
    #7 RollTide, Jun 4, 2012
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    Oh dear, Thigpen played in the 1999 playoffs, he missed the Superbowl. But we sure missed his 6 catches for 43 yards in the Superbowl. That would have made the difference.

    Regardless 1999 was bad luck.

    As for 2000, you are completely wrong. The injuries to Thigpen and Dyson let Mason emerged, who, if not for those injuries, probably never becomes the player he became as he wallowed in the depth chart behind Thigpen, Dyson, Isaac Byrd and Chris Sanders. Enough to deal with Baltimore, that's for sure.

    Mason's one season was better than Thigpen ever had as a Titan.

    Anyway, in 2000 Fisher, once again, had the talent to win the Superbowl. And he had it all. Best record, home field, dominate defense, top running game.
    Still lost.

    But hey, tell me how Trent Dilfer was a stud QB who took Baltimore to a Superbowl victory.

    Yes, because of injuries to those guys we decided to not upgrade the WR position and run with J-Mac, Jones and Gage.

    Yep and when we let him go we decided not to draft a WR in the first round and rather have cast offs like Wade and Bennett

    Trent Dilfer says hello.

    Once again. Best record, home field, dominate defense, dominate run game.

    Hell, the team had close to 400 yards of offense and managed 10 points.
    Yet, still lost.

    Okay, on Planet Earth, facts are little things that are backable with truthful information. Facts are not hypotheticals and questions.

    Here are the facts about Fisher

    Twice he has had the best record in the league and twice he has squandered that opportunity, losing at home in the first game.

    His playoff record is 5 - 6, and if not for the Music City Miracle, it's 2 - 5.

    Make all the excuses you want, he's had enough talent to be top in the regular season, but never was good enough to make it anywhere in the playoffs.
     
    #8 Gunny, Jun 4, 2012
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    You don't even know what you are arguing, do you?

    First you post about how Fisher didn't have enough talent and then you start with this about how he was good enough to have 13-3 and 12-4 teams.
     
    #9 Gunny, Jun 4, 2012
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    Again it is over your head.

    Fisher just didn't become the coach for the playoffs. You give him no credit for the great season they had only for the playoff loss.

    As for the 2000 playoffs let's dig a little.

    The missed chip shot FG was Fisher's fault?

    The blocked FG that resulted in a TD for the Ravens also Fisher fault?

    Eddie's bobble that resulted in the Ray Lewis TD was Fisher's fault?

    And again what if we had Thigpen, Dyson(You ignored that one completely) and Mason were all available for that game?

    Thigpen had 2 1300 yard seasons for the Steelers when we came to the Titans in his prime. If we had gotten that kind of play out of him maybe we would have won a super bowl.
     
    #10 RollTide, Jun 4, 2012
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