Forget about VY starting

My crystal ball says Collins will finish out the season.

if we dont get more than 8 wins, VY should win the job back for 2010.

 

Where the hell did those come from? lol thats alot of 2 yd gains aha:ha::ha:
But nice stats. Doesn't seem like to big of a gap for a jorneyman qb and a 4th yr pro .

 

I'm one of the guys saying VY needs a shot because not that Kerry is the reason we are 0-3. But i feel his play has not been good enough to put us in position to make an attempt at a playoff run. Now will Vince play better? I don't know. But i get really ticked when people say well if he was in, he would stink and suck and all that crap. It's a biased judgment, especially when Kerry has had years of horrible play. The fair way to do it is to at least give the guy a chance before writing him off and making bogus predictions. I feel that way about all our players. Just like I've been wanting to give Chris henry another shot. Hell if Vince sucked then give Ramsey a try. All I'm saying is at least be fair to the player for your supposed favorite team. And Jeff I'm not singling you out, I'm directing this towards a lot of guys who already think of Vince as a bust. Guys like Eddy and Deuce Wayne. Who claim that if Vince was in, they would cheer for him to play well, yet write him off and predict he will amount to nothing for this team.

 

Should it matter? If he should be the starter as you say shouldn't he have destroyed the BROWNS backups? Hell the Browns backups would probably lose to a college team. But they were good enough for not 1 but 2 turnovers vs. Vince. And when Vince fumbled on the 5 who's fault was that? Was that one of our backups? Was the Hawkins fault? How about the pick 6 thrown RIGHT TO the Browns corner? Was that Craig Stevens' fault?

 

Your putting words in my mouth. I never said Collins was the main reason we are 0-3, or the main reason we went 10-0. I said, He's a part of the reason we are 0-3, and I won't deny his play was a part of the reason we were 10-0 last season.

and how isn't collins a part of the reason we are 0-3? Did he not fumble the ball vs houston? Is that not a part of the reason we lost that game? Did he not throw 2 interceptions and struggle down the stretch vs New York? Did that not contribute to the loss? Your giving Collins a cloak of invincibility that shoots down any credibility you have IMO. Because from what I'm reading, unless every other player on this team plays perfect football, and Collins struggles and we end up with a Loss, Collins isn't going to get blamed because "he shouldn't be in that situation".

 

I SERIOUSLY doubt that's what Bud has in mind if we go 0 and at the most 2 more.

 

we will prob lose 4-5 more games.

 

I think the reason we have there hasn't been a qb change because of the way we are losing. All things are correctable. So a minor tweak could be the answer. I'll see how it goes against jax. I guess if kerry plays poorly, then it would be fitting for him to lose his job against jax. lol

 

beating the jags really isn't a measuring tool of where we stand.

we could look like a All Star team sunday, then get raped by the Reggie Wayne.