If RGIII is Cleveland's guy, do they trade with us...?

Gunny · Mar 30, 2016

I love TitanUps posts because they are so stupid and then he gets all defensive when everyone says they are stupid.

JCBRAVE · Mar 31, 2016

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Genius, when you have the No. 2 pick, you don't need to trade half your draft. The trade value chart is relative to the number of picks a team would drop. One pick, low value. Many picks = high value. Just one pick on day 2 would do it...but it depends. If Cleveland wants the same player they know we plan to take, then they might have to add more to the pot. They know we aren't taking a QB, and we would be fine taking Tunsil at 2 and getting a 2nd or maybe as little as a 3rd Rd + late Rd pick.

My point was that I honestly think Cleveland would be nuts to go ahead and draft a QB at No.2, now. If you are Hugh Jackson and believe you can coach RGIII up and get him back to Pro Bowl form, then you are wasting a rare No.2 overall pick, on a player you actually hope you don't need.

That being said, they do need to hedge their bets, and can do so by drafting Connor Cook at No.32 or going with Prescott or Hogan in Rd 3. It's even pragmatic for them to be patient and perhaps take a QB like Hackenburg in the 4th or 5th (don't think he is worth any more than a 4th, based on his lack of production the past 2 seasons). If they do plan to give RGIII a legit shot, then taking Wentz at No.2 would demolish those plans. You don't waste a Top 3 pick on a guy you plan to sit for a couple of years. You just don't.
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In todays league no most teams dont use a top pick and sit them, but that used to be the best way to get guys ready and still works.

McNair was picked 3rd overall and he sat for a while, then went onto having a great career.

I think Cleveland has to go QB at 2. I like RG3 myself, but no way Id hitch my wagon to him at this point, take a guy at 2 if youre Cleveland and show him the way. Very likely the #2 pick plays in Cleveland this year, RG3's style opens him up to hits.

When we had Locker in 2014 I was dying for us to take a QB that draft because Locker had the same issues RG3 does today, and look how that went for us. Yea we eventually landed Mariota but you couldnt have predicted that in 2014 until after the season wrapped up.

TitanUpB4UGO · Mar 31, 2016

JCBRAVE said: ↑

In todays league no most teams dont use a top pick and sit them, but that used to be the best way to get guys ready and still works.

McNair was picked 3rd overall and he sat for a while, then went onto having a great career.

I think Cleveland has to go QB at 2. I like RG3 myself, but no way Id hitch my wagon to him at this point, take a guy at 2 if youre Cleveland and show him the way. Very likely the #2 pick plays in Cleveland this year, RG3's style opens him up to hits.

When we had Locker in 2014 I was dying for us to take a QB that draft because Locker had the same issues RG3 does today, and look how that went for us. Yea we eventually landed Mariota but you couldnt have predicted that in 2014 until after the season wrapped up.
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I understand the desire to hedge their bets, but let's face it, when you draft a QB that high, you are communicating in no uncertain terms that he IS going to be the starter at some point THAT season....usually right away. Cam Newton, Luck, Bortles, Winston, Mariota....all went in the top 3 and did so. RGIII knows he would have no chance to win the starting job, and I cannot believe he would dare sign with Cleveland knowing they planned to take a QB with the No.2 pick.

Remember, Cleveland is well known to be the place where QB's careers go to die. If he was content to be a placeholder and backup, then he would have tried to angle for such a role in Denver or SF. It's more probable than most people think, that Hugh Jackson believes he can restart RGIII's career. He simply cannot do both...jumpstart his career and draft a QB No.2 overall. They will likely take the BPA and then select a QB at 32.

They have some good options in the draft, beyond the 1st and 2nd Rd, to get a QB they can mold to being a solid backup if not a starter, if RGIII doesn't work out. That is what I think they will do.

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