Just Lose, Baby

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Maker_84, Dec 3, 2012.

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Would you prefer the Titans lose out to possibly get a higher draft pick?

Poll closed Dec 10, 2012.
  1. Yes. Wins mean nothing now. I want the higher pick.

    45.0%
  2. No. You play to win the game.

    43.3%
  3. I'm indifferent. I barely care enough to answer this poll.

    11.7%
  1. Alex1939

    Alex1939 Old Man Tip Jar Donor

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    No, it really isn't an excuse it is a reality. 2001 comes to mind.

    We simply disagree on the player talent then.

    I think you underestimate the value and learning that players (especially young ones) go through by winning and particularly by gaining momentum at the end of the year going into next year.

    Losing out and having players with the mindset of "we suck and we are going to suck next year" from January-August is not good imo.
  2. Riverman

    Riverman That may be....

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    Yup we disagree.

    I think you overestimate the power of an end of season win streak. We've done it for a while and let's see........we are 4-8 this year. We went 1-4 to start the season. These guys never bought into Palmer- that's the problem. Not sure they have bought what Gray and Munchak are selling either.

    You keep wanting to fight a poorly producing field by pulling weeds. Just burn the damn thing, purchase quality seeds and fertilizer. And get a GM that knows how to grow things.
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  3. JCBRAVE

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    We never once had a winning record this year :disappointed:

    we wont end the year winning
  4. World Peace

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    This is one of the reasons I was so against this coaching staff showing up in 2011. This staff pretty much destroyed the career of Jake Locker if they stick around for 2013
  5. World Peace

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    You are comparing early late 90s early 2000s stats to current football. It's a different game now than it was then. I understand the point you are making but plenty of QBs started out great then faded. I think the sample size is too small and dated. jm2c tho
  6. World Peace

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    Locker deserves more time under a different coaching staff. Under this staff, he might as well request a trade... because he will end up leaving and being someones back up in a few years.
  7. JCBRAVE

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    I was just looking at the games best QB's, didn't even think about how things have changed
  8. JCBRAVE

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    Look at Matthew Stafford aka Mr. 5000 passing yards, his first 7 starts weren't so great

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  9. titan_fan_4ever

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    I've read all the posts on this page, good back-forth stuff guys! I actually agree with all that's been said.
    • I think that its important to try and win regardless, no matter what, and I will never wish for losses - its just that simple. An argument could be made that for a young team going forward, some wins to end the year could definitely help momentum . But the counter could also be said, where they believe for some reason that they are better then they are and just started out bad, so they get complacent in the offseason.
    • I don't really care about the first 7 starts of a QB. However, if you are to compare Locker to QBs, I would think more recent QBs would be a better comparison (i.e. Cam, Gabbert, RG3, Luck, etc...). Then you would cross that with the current elites when they first started - however, still weighting more to the 'new age' guys (it really is a different game now).
    • I do care to get a ring, and Locker's still def got potential (i.e. very young, crap coaching, etc...) - but regardless I have not seen enough from him to believe he can lead us to the promise land... Dude consistently struggles with the most basic passes (short curls, screens, slants, etc...) - practicing and playing for idn 10/15+ years that should be easy, not sure another 10 years will make a difference...
  10. Alex1939

    Alex1939 Old Man Tip Jar Donor

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    So there isn't one player you would keep around or what?

    I mean, regardless of opinion we are not going to be fielding 22 new starters next season so some of these guys have to continue for a while.