Just when I thought Climer had mellowed a bit....BAM!

The part that bothers me most is the 'starter' thing. Steve probably could 'start' for 2 or 3 more years. I don't think he could 'finish' them. We need a QB that will remain vertical for 16+ games.
The last couple of years, he hasn't been too impressive. It wasn't too long ago that his performance was so questionable that even Steve mentioned the "R" word. With the decline of the O-Line and loosing Mason hurt his performance. Some of the O-Line retired, some went to other teams for more money and some just got too old and no one wants to sign them. These players, Young included, know what they are getting into when they come to the NFL. Young is a millionaire already and has yet to take an NFL snap. They know what their life expectantcy is. When I retire, I hope I have several million laying around in various banks!
Young could take a lesson from Hopkins. "You're getting old, slow and costly. Thanks for the good years. Now go and enjoy the millions.".

 

The retirment talk last a season ago is exactly what steams me about the situation.

"No, Steve, we'll give you this surgery that will make you feel better, come back and play."

And now he wants to come back and play...

 

In hindsight the Titans could / should have just traded Mac when they had the 5th round draft pick and been done with this circus.
Now they are almost forced to fight this thing to the bitter end not giving an inch. Sad. If the Titans didn't think Mac fit into their plans then be up front with Mac and move on.

 

I've said it before, the NFL is 5% football and 95% business. I might think that I can work another 2-3 years, but that is entirely up to my boss and the company. Regardless of my past with the company, regardless of what I've done for the company, when they say go, I've got very few choices. If the company thinks there is a younger guy out there that can do my job better than I can, again, my options are few. We all know that this day is coming. Hopefully I'll have a retirement fund as big as Steves'.

 

Climer is not worth reading. He's like a tabloid writer trying to puff up the story by over attacking one side. I won't read him! I get better info from posters on this board!!!

What were we talking about again? Ah yes...the green!

Anyone who doesn't think this is about money is not reading between the lines!

Reese doesn't want McNair because of his cap hit...IE MONEY.

McNair wants a trade so he can get more money...period.

He can say it's because he wants to start, but he wouldn't start for Baltimore for the next 3 years either. They already have their heir apparent QB and he's a lot further along than VY.

This is COMPLETELY a money issue though no one wants to make it sound like it. And that's where the Titans have messed up. They locked out the leader of this team over money and everyone knows it.

McNair has been much more saavy...even without a PR firm. He's said all the right things...I just wanna start. My agent is handling all the details and if anything bad comes up...it's my agent. McNair will come out of this smelling like a rose while the damage has already been done to the Titans rep.

The reality is, McNair would make $10mil this year AND start. If he goes to baltimore, he'd make a bit more but - more importantly - get a lot of money up front. And that my friends, is the only real difference in terms of the Titans or Baltimore from McNair's perspective.

No matter where he goes, he won't start for 3 years. The fact that the Jets signed Ramsey and kept Pennington instead of at least inquiring about Steve should tell you A LOT! The Jets are arguably a QB away from a serious run. Pennington and Ramsey are much bigger risks in terms of playing for a year and playing well than McNair. What does that tell you?

Usually when people tell me it's not about the money is when it's ALL about the money!

Gut

 

Gut,
I usually get a lot out of your posts, and you clearly have more general football knowledge than I do, but I've got to question two things...

1. Baltimore has their heir of the future? Boller? He's had three years, with an average rating of 69. He's got good weapons around him, I didn't see much excuse for last year, and I've never really seen him have even 1 game where he showed real promise. I think McNair would probably only be a stop gap, maybe a motivational tool for boller to rise to competition, but I think he's about at the end of his leash. Any disagreement?

2. Jets arguably a QB away from a serious run? I just can't agree with that about a team that only won 4 games last year, including us. They've got a lot of questions besides QB. They let Abraham go, will they be able to get enough of a pass rush? Curtis Martin is getting OLD. He might be able to be productive for a few more years, but I don't think he can really carry the load much longer, they need another/a better backup RB. Receiving corps isn't bad, but what about DBs. They let ty law go, and 10 INTs is 10 INTs. Maybe it isn't that big a deal, but I didn't see much this offense to suggest major improvement, and that's what's needed for a 4-12 team to get close to a serious run. What makes you think they're that close?