Kevin Mawae: Vince Young is not a leader

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  1. goTitans.com

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    Mawae: Vince Young not a consummate pro

    [​IMG]Kevin Mawae declined to make a choice when I asked him who he’d pick between Jeff Fisher and Vince Young, but he said he does believe one has to go from the Titans.

    The team’s former center offered some solid insight on Young, who will appear on a roundtable as part of “Year of the Quarterback: Kick Off Special” on ESPN at 10 p.m. ET tonight.

    “It might be time for a change of scenery,” Mawae said when we talked of Young’s leadership in his fifth season. “I played with Warren Moon, I played with Vinny Testaverde, I played with Kerry Collins, I played with Chad Pennington and the one thing all those guys had in common is that they were all field generals and leaders on the field. And there is one name missing that’s very obvious. And there is a difference in those four players versus the one that plays for the Titans.

    “…It is disappointing because the kid’s got all the talent in the world and has had an opportunity to step up and hasn’t done so. He’s a great athlete and he wins games. That’s one thing you can never take away from Vince is that he wins ball games… But as far as being the consummate pro like some of the other guys in the league, it’s disappointing that he hasn’t taken that step.”

    Mawae, president of the NFL Players Association, didn’t have much of an update on the labor situation, pledging only that his people will be ready if a lockout arrives, but work hard to avoid one.

    Other topics we touched on:

    The Titans’ offensive line play: “No. 68 is not in the middle, that’s what the biggest problems is. (Laughing). The Titans have always faced eight- and nine-man fronts. Now maybe the way they’ve incorporated them is different, none the less it’s the same box count the front has always seen. For whatever reason the quarterbacks have gotten more banged up this year. Without knowing intimately what’s going on as far as the players concerned, they just don’t look like they’re jelling. Without sounding like it’s all about me, it’s hard to see, to watch and to say anything that doesn’t sound like it’s directed back to me. I just hope they right the ship.”

    Chris Johnson: “He looks like he’s trying to be more deliberate, instead of more natural like he was last year. I think last year he let the game dictate how he ran the ball. This year it seems like he’s pressing a little bit. I did talk to (offensive line coach Mike Munchak) earlier in the season and he said other teams are trying to make Chris run between the tackles and not let him get to the edge and bounce to the numbers and things like that. It’s hard yards up inside the middle. If you carrying 20 times a game and 18 or 15 are up the gut where 10 guys are piling up on you, it takes a toll on you. He’s going to have his breakouts, but to see a seven carries for 5 yard game or a 40-yard game, it’s very uncharacteristic for Chris Johnson and the Titans offensive line. He just doesn’t look as smooth and instinctive as he has the last couple years.”

    The New York Life Protection Index: “It comes up with a rating scale from 1 to 100 to rate how well an offensive line is doing and it’s a measure of how a team is having success. Teams like the Colts, the Saints and the Giants are at the top of the index, and it’s no surprise the three of them are making a push for the playoffs right now. Go down to the bottom and you’ve got teams like the Niners and the Raiders and they are struggling right now.”
     
  2. BudAdams

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    Interesting, hearing it from Mawae.
     
  3. World Peace

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    Mawae is Captain Obvious.
     
  4. TorontoTitanFan

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    Add yet another voice to the choir. It's very clear that Young can't lead this team to success.
     
  5. Ewker

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    waiting on the Young jock sniffers to show up :ha:
     
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  6. MJTitans

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    Interesting. I'm glad he said it, and I'm glad he said it now. No earth-shattering revelations, but the same story means more coming from a player vs. media.

    And he's right - missing 68 at C is a huge problem now. I thought he was done, and I supported the decision to move on. Maybe he was way on the decline, but even on the decline he apparently was leaps and bounds above Amano.

    One thing that's held my support of VY together is that the players still seem to have his back. I've taken 3rd party reports of leadership/work issues with a grain of salt from a headline-loving media. This is the 1st player I've heard speak out against VY, and it's a guy I respect a ton.
     
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  7. TorontoTitanFan

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    The current players are way too smart to turn on a guy who's still on the roster. I'm sure several of them are good friends with Young and would never say anything bad about him. Luckily, players don't make personnel decisions.
     
  8. World Peace

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    Why is it always something sexual with you?
     
  9. MJTitans

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    I wouldn't expect them to be as blunt as Mawae, but from the post-game comments you can usually tell who thinks what. Heck, Bulluck came out and said it was time for a QB change when we were on our 1st losing streak Vince's rookie year. If you never hear criticism but also never hear support you know there's a problem.

    I think the reason we've not heard much from the players is that VY has still been the best QB on the team. Bring in a viable option and let's see what happens. These guys are as competitive as they are smart, probably more so. If my friend is keeping me from winning I'm not going to let it slide.
     
  10. CRUDS

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    OOOOF! to tha gut...
    And that's coming from the prez of the NFLPA.
     
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