Kiper just labeled us as his "loser" of the draft

But you also know alot of us have been tracking many of the players in the NFL since their sophomore and junior years of high school. And people here also follow college football rosters and emerging underclass talent just as closely as draft picks and free agents.

 

I believe we got a GREAT player with Griffin and a up in the air pick with Henry.... Who knows what he can do really become..... I believe our second day of the draft was good again... We seem to always find some good players in the second day!

 

Who cares about the grade we get now, we just have to see how these guys will produce in camp and such, as well as on the field...

 

That doesn't mean you have the ability to judge and scout all the many complexities and variables that go into selecting a player. It's not a simple process, and it's the reason why all of us are here talking and *****ing about it, and the actual scouts are being PAID for it.

 

I like our 2nd day. Filiani looks to be our red zone guy with good overall savvy to develop into a very good WR regardless of the system he played. Very physical and good hands and game speed.

Jacob Ford could become a good DE I mean whatch his tape he doesn't gve up he's got a motor and speed 2nd fastest at combine for DE's and fastest 10 yd dash which is more important looks to be a sack artist and if he develops and puts some weight on could be our answer.

Ryan Smith a DB who is a playmaker 8 pics and very instintive and savvy with good speed and quickness. Should become or nickelback juts needs to add weight.

Leroy Harris a versatile lineman with a nasty demeanor. At the same time is a mature young man with lots of exp. Will be our future C mark my words but for now will learn behind Munch and Mawae....not too bad and is a good back up at C or G.

Chris Davis will be our Bobby Wade type guy. Savvy route runner with good burst and quickness and decent speed in the low 4.5's. will for now be a great ST guy asa return man and gunner. Could develop into a D-Mase type guy.

Mike Otto also another versatile O-Lineman will back up at T and G for now. could eventually be Olsen's replacement. Decent bulk and athleticsm but has the desire and attitude to be a solid to better starter. For now is a versatile depth player.

Finally Antonio Johnson a DT with loads of upside. Washburn could be te one to get it out of him he excelled at tying up blockers at Miss. St but has a very explosive first step and good strength just needs to grow as a football player since he has limited exp. Good depth and role player for now while he develops.

 

I think we had a great draft. Our first rounder was a surprise, but a pleasant one at that. We got a guy who can play some corner for us, either safety position, play both pass and run and will be a ST ace right off the bat. We also got role players who, if they turn out the way they should, will benefit us greatly. We added depth at corner, got a pass rusher, filled both OLine and DLine depth and we got some WR's with a lot of potential.

 

But that's what I was saying: you shouldn't have to be a professional scout or NFL coach to have valid arguments and opinions about draft selections that you can discuss and debate objectively with fellow fans.

And if you just have no opinion after a draft b/c you deem yourself unqualified and just live by the mantra "trust the pros": what if your pros work for the Browns, Jets, or Lions?

 

I think Kiper is a "loser"

 

I think the Browns have had a good off-season and an aggressive draft. They should move out of that list. If not this year next.