Gunny, I can't be on here much today, but Michi's post made all of the arguments that we've been over. You're counting shells as controllers, some of which are free, and you aren't counting all of the "options" for the PS3. I'll admit that the Fit board is it's own thing, and I don't know how it will work out, but the other stuff is all basically the same thing, though I'd agree with Puck's arguments about Nintendo's peripherals being a better deal and I think that they're marketed better. Bottom line, you've said that they are different, you've said that they're the same. It's hard to get a clear point out of you. Quit telling people to learn how to read and throwing out insults. Just leave it to discussion.