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Michael Griffin finally coming around?

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by TitansWillWin2, Oct 7, 2013.

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    I'm just saying there is no reason to bash a player for being a good leader or not. If a player is a great leader but sucks on the field, like Tebow, then I dont want him on the field at all.
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    I made the point earlier about Griffin being good this season because he excels when asked to do what he can do, rather than being put in a position to do what he can't. Hence him playing poorly the last couple of seasons. Has Pollard been a blessing? Absolutley.

    Would you consider Zach Brown a leader? Or better yet McCarthy? He was a captain last season! and now just got his starting job back because of an injury to Fokou - who our coaches thought was better than McCarthy coming out of training camp.

    Unfortunatley, stuff the players do outside of the field is part of their job. In a world where they get scrutinzed for everything they do, all players should (and most don't) double think every move they make.
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    McCarthy a leader? Hell yes. Is he the best MLB? maybe not. But he goes 100% everytime he is on the field. That could be part of his injury problem. Plays very hard, even reckless when you consider his own safety which he obviously does not consider. That's a hardnosed football player.

    You know, whiffin being put in a position to succeed or fail due to his abilities is a valid point with any player. I say whiffin being in a perfect scheme to match his talents has absolutely Nothing to do with his nickname. Countless tackles he has whiffed on. The scheme has nothing to do with him pulling back on goal line tackles which we ALL have seen several times. He was in the right place, just didn't do his job. This year, he is in the right place and laying some serious wood. All for that bro.

    But that's not a leader. He is following Pollards example.
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    Seems like your equating effort to leadership?

    Who is to say that Griffin wasn't giving good effort the past few seasons? Just cause he sucked doesn't mean he didn't go 100%.

    Any of us could be put in a NFL game, give 150% and would be blown away every play! Would that make me a leader? I hope not!
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    Are you trying to tell me that whiffin "clearly" pulling up before contact is 150% effort? As opposed to driving thru tackles like he is doing now? Come on.

    And yes, effort does equate to leadership. Ei lead by example. I know you have heard that phrase bro.
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    I disagree - guys can give a lot of effort on the field, be great players, but be complete asshats off the field where no one on the team likes him (be it player or coach or gm)
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    Effort is a pre requisite and usually comes across as leadership, not a guarantee.

    I'm moving on bro.
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    good debate
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