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Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Gunny, Mar 24, 2009.

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  1. jessestylex

    jessestylex DeadGirlsCantSayNo

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    why would Lebron leave Cleveland?

    he is the #1 guy. if he cant get the Ring there, why would it be any different anywhere else? anywhere he goes he is the guy that has to win it for them.
  2. Gunny

    Gunny Lord and Master Tip Jar Donor

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    Because Cleveland suck and don't have anyone else besides him?
  3. jessestylex

    jessestylex DeadGirlsCantSayNo

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    they sucked, but had the NBA's best season record?
  4. Gunny

    Gunny Lord and Master Tip Jar Donor

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    Playing in the easier division does that.

    Where did they finish?
  5. Titans2008

    Titans2008 Camp Fodder

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    Here's some perspective on how good the Cavs were this past year:

    Grizzlies last year: 104 points scored, 109 points against per 100 possessions
    Cavs sans LBJ last year: 104 points scored, 110 points against per 100 possessions

    Worse than the Grizzlies, in other words. I'd say he would have a better supporting cast by going to 80% of the other teams out there.
  6. Deuce Wayne

    Deuce Wayne Damnit, I cant find my driving moccasins anywhere!

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    The Cavaliers (excluding James) had almost as good a supporting cast (statistically speaking) as the Lakers. (excluding Kobe)

    Please stop making excuses for Prince James.
  7. Titans2008

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    Ummm, those wouldn't be statistics you're talking about. That would be your own hearsay once again. I bring stat after stat in support of LBJ and all you have is "KOBE ROCKS!!". OK man.

    How about the actual stats:

    L.A. Lakers sans Kobe: 103.9 scored, 104.5 allowed per 100 possessions.

    In other words, an average NBA team. Only in this fantasy land in your head is that comparable to the Cavs without LBJ.
  8. PhiSlammaJamma

    PhiSlammaJamma Yao

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    Nothing about Ariza says wow to me. I don't think he'll make a big leap with the Rockets, though I hope he does. When people saw McGrady his first year or two, people were like wow. He could be something. I don't get that feeling with Ariza. I'm glad he's on board. But the expectations are low for me. Unfortunately, the Rockets need a superstar to team up with, well, uh, nobody at this point.
  9. Deuce Wayne

    Deuce Wayne Damnit, I cant find my driving moccasins anywhere!

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    *sigh*

    Lebron's supporting cast vs Kobe's (considered the best in the nba)
    Mo Williams: 16 ppg
    Delonte West: 13 ppg
    Z Ilgauskus: 10.5 ppg
    Varejao: 7 ppg

    Pau Gasol: 18 ppg
    Lamar Odom: 12 ppg
    Trevor Ariza: 11 ppg
    Derek Fisher: 7 ppg

    The difference?

    1.5 points. ONE POINT FIVE POINTS between their starting 4 other than Kobe/Lebron.

    The rest of the Cavs team =

    16.5 ppg

    Lakers?

    17.7


    Yeah... HUGE difference between supporting cast there.

    Basically 2 points difference between Lebron's supporting cast and Kobe's.





    No more excuses.
  10. Titans2008

    Titans2008 Camp Fodder

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    So basically you're ignoring all of the defense and all of the bench players. Statistics that I had already listed, adjusted for pace, even. The bottom line is that the Lakers were 12 points per 100 possessions better with Kobe while the Cavs were 21 points per 100 possessions better with LeBron. So how exactly do you consider this up for debate when you bring the word "statistics" into it?
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