Where did I make any type of argument about stats determining NFL success? Now you are just making stuff up. All I said was that you cannot use stats to determine a guy won't be successful, any more than you can to try and show he will be successfull. By your logic, Peyton Manning and the lshould have been a complete bust since he put up great college #s. And you just went off memory? You couldnt remember a single college player who put up good college #s and had a successful pro career? Give me a break.