TF is so wrong with a QB who can run the ball?

Pryor in round 2? You realize most scouts have him going as a WR right? How many Super Bowls has a mobile QB won? Playoff games? How many did McNair and VY win? Don't get me wrong, I love McNair for his heart, and he was unlike Newton or Pryor because he could throw, but we need a pocket passer. If McNair had played in a more open offense he would have had a career like McNabb's, he could sling it. He is nothing like Newton or VY or Pryor. The only years we have made the playoffs was because we had a dominant Dline, which makes the entire D better. Why do you want to get rid of one mobile QB to draft another? Look at the teams in the playoffs this year, how many have a mobile dual threat Qb? 1, and that is Michael Vick. How many last year, zero? The year before? We can do this all day. They do not win in the NFL because they rely on their legs instead of learning to read and break down Ds.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with a QB who can run around. They just need to be able to throw the ball well and make good decisions first and foremost. Scrambling ability should just be an added bonus, not your main threat.
Michael Vick '04 = do not want
Michael Vick '10 = yes please

 

You're right...a QB like McNabb(when he was younger) that would scramble to extend plays, but looked to pass first is fine. A QB like Pryor or Newton who will make one read, and if it's not there tuck and run is not. There is a big difference between a passing QB that is mobile, and a pure running QB.

 

Pryor sucks. I hear a lot of talk between Cam and VY. Pryor is straight out of VY's gene pool. And if you wanna talk about character issues, look no further than these two.

Besides, Pryor said he was returning for his senior year.

 

It's nothing racist. McNabb and McNair both were pass first QBs coming out of college. Pryor and Newton are not. They are run first, pass 2nd QBs. As has been said, most scouts see Pryor as a WR in the NFL. He was very impressive in the Sugar Bowl, and in last year's Rose Bowl. But that doesn't mean it translates to NFL success. Newton will be a QB, but he is a project. He doesn't take snaps under center, and isn't asked to read defenses. He is asked to look at his first option, if it is not there, then he creates something on his own. A pocket passer who can create with his legs is what is needed to be successful in the NFL. It has been proven time and time again. The run first QBs are great to watch, they are exciting, but that does not translate to playoff wins.

 

John Elway, Steve Young, Brett Favre, and Ben Roethlisberger all won Super Bowls. McNabb and McNair both made it to the Super Bowl.

Being mobile is not a detriment, it just can't be the first thing a guy turns to when things get tight.

And Tide, saying you smell racism when it comes to Pryor and Newton is ridiculous. Pryor isn't even that good of a college QB(OSU fan, BTW) and Newton has never taken a snap from center or had to read a defense.

 

Lets put it this way...

If Pryor didn't have his legs' ability in the sugar bowl, meaning he didn't run for the numerous first downs, rack up 115 yards on the ground, or extend plays with his mobility, Ohio State would have been slaughtered, maybe even shut out. Agreed?

Pryor doesn't have the speed to get away from NFL defenders effecively, very few do. He's slower than Vince Young, and we all saw how ineffective VY was at running the ball as his career progressed. Pryor uses his legs to bail himself out more than anyone I've ever seen at the college level.

So picture Pryor in the sugar bowl without his legs, and thats what its going to be like in the NFL. He doesn't have the ability to throw the ball at a high level in the NFL, so I don't want him to be my quarterback.

Consider all that and the fact that he's a head case. No thank you.

Newton is definitely the better of the two, and I could see him succeed in the NFL, but not as a runner, as a passer.

 

BigTitan, you missed the point of the argument.....all of those QBs you mentioned were mobile yes, but they were pass first QBs. Newton and Pryor are not. There has never been a run first QB win in the playoffs and make it to the Super Bowl. I used the word mobile in that comment, but it should have been run-first. That is what we were discussing.