rcarie.......big titan... rcarie, the top reserves on this team were NOT rookies or 2nd year players either. Our backup QB was a 6th year player, our backup RB a 5th year player. Our top linebacker off the bench was a 4th year player. Our 2 rookie corners were backed up by a 4th year player and a third year player. Bigtitan, i would disagree with you on what constitutes a "big part". I guess anyone who plays at all has played a "big" role according to you. The 4th DT(Clauss) is hardly playing a big role. I would also disagree with waddell who began the year as our #3 nickel and #4 corner. Waddell only started one game all year at nickel so his contribution was hardly "big". As for scaife he wasn't forced into a role he wasn't ready for he played a lot simply because he was good. The scaife situation was a positive thing not some young player who was too clueless and inexperienced to play well. Never the less scaife was still only our #3 TE and represents only 25% of titght end catches this year. . Not "Big". I'll agree on the other 9 but that's 9 players who significantly contributed out of a roster of over 50. There were 14 starting position players on this team in their 4th season or beyond. For every bironas there is some guy who has been here forever like hentrich who was a 12 year guy. Of the 9 players who did have larger roles on the team 5 are rookies. That is no excuse in any shape and form for a team to go 4-12 when half of our games were against the worst teams in the league. In fact half our wins came against the absolute worst team in the league. A half baked high school coach could have gotten 4 wins out of that team.